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Jan 23, 2013

I know someone who made the same decision last year.

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Jan 23, 2013

Depends if you want to stay corporate or go to MBA or PE/HF/VC

Goldman has a stronger/more well known name that can open doors to almost anything in finance and out, Moelis will pay better and support you in get a PE stint after your 2 years if you should so chose. Goldman for MBA, HF, VC and PE as well but Moelis if all you know you want to do is go to PE. just my opinion.

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Jan 23, 2013

Reject them both like a true alpha.

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Jan 23, 2013

This site is embarrassing.

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Jan 23, 2013

he must've been drunk, high or both....to have made that decision.

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Jan 23, 2013

Good to hear, make room for GS TMT.

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Jan 23, 2013

Moelis LA has had 100% top HF/PE placement (nothing short of megafund level) for the last several years, GS TMT SF not even close to that status - would pretty much save the GS TMT prestige for the NY office. Add to that the support you get from Moelis (they brag to candidates about analyst placement) vs GS' new policy against the 2 year program which will make it very difficult to recruit (analysts now at least get their last 6 months to do it freely...and even THAT'S hard)

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Jan 24, 2013
ricottacheese:

Moelis LA has had 100% top HF/PE placement (nothing short of megafund level) for the last several years, GS TMT SF not even close to that status - would pretty much save the GS TMT prestige for the NY office. Add to that the support you get from Moelis (they brag to candidates about analyst placement) vs GS' new policy against the 2 year program which will make it very difficult to recruit (analysts now at least get their last 6 months to do it freely...and even THAT'S hard)

This is pretty misleading.

I've seen Moelis LA being blown way out of proportion on this site. I'm pretty familiar with that office since I interviewed their analysts. From what I've seen, the 100% top HF/PE placement is a bit exaggerated. Moelis LA does indeed send a lot of people to PE funds, but not all of them go to "pure" mega leveraged-buyout PE shops that you're implying. That excludes the credit/growth funds that are using the megafund's name. Because when you say megafunds, the people reading this board are thinking the traditional buyout funds of TPG, KKR, Blackstone, etc. The only one that regularly hires from Moelis LA is TPG Capital. Silver Lake Partners recently began taking Moelis LA guys.

GS SF TMT analysts is a rare breed. Headhunters knock on their doors but they turn them away. I guess it's the culture in SF. A lot of the analysts became interested in tech and want to go to start-ups and venture capital firms after their analyst stint and aren't interested in PE. The few that are interested in the traditional PE/HF exit opps get incredible placements into megafunds. My fund has given offers to GS SF guys, but has yet to take a Moelis LA guy. And it's not the only one.

GS SF and Moelis LA are both incredible opportunities. But I think elite exit opps are wider coming out of GS SF TMT than Moelis LA, perhaps because of the stronger alumni network and extreme prestige of Goldman. Moelis LA however is catching up in recent years as funds that have never taken a Moelis guy before are now hiring from their analyst classes. Definitely interesting to see how the two will fare over time, but for now, I think GS SF TMT has the upper hand.

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Jan 24, 2013
megafund:
ricottacheese:

Moelis LA has had 100% top HF/PE placement (nothing short of megafund level) for the last several years, GS TMT SF not even close to that status - would pretty much save the GS TMT prestige for the NY office. Add to that the support you get from Moelis (they brag to candidates about analyst placement) vs GS' new policy against the 2 year program which will make it very difficult to recruit (analysts now at least get their last 6 months to do it freely...and even THAT'S hard)

This is pretty misleading.

I've seen Moelis LA being blown way out of proportion on this site. I'm pretty familiar with that office since I interviewed their analysts. From what I've seen, the 100% top HF/PE placement is a bit exaggerated. Moelis LA does indeed send a lot of people to PE funds, but not all of them go to "pure" mega leveraged-buyout PE shops that you're implying. That excludes the credit/growth funds that are using the megafund's name. Because when you say megafunds, the people reading this board are thinking the traditional buyout funds of TPG, KKR, Blackstone, etc. The only one that regularly hires from Moelis LA is TPG Capital. Silver Lake Partners recently began taking Moelis LA guys.

GS SF TMT analysts is a rare breed. Headhunters knock on their doors but they turn them away. I guess it's the culture in SF. A lot of the analysts became interested in tech and want to go to start-ups and venture capital firms after their analyst stint and aren't interested in PE. The few that are interested in the traditional PE/HF exit opps get incredible placements into megafunds. My fund has given offers to GS SF guys, but has yet to take a Moelis LA guy. And it's not the only one.

GS SF and Moelis LA are both incredible opportunities. But I think elite exit opps are wider coming out of GS SF TMT than Moelis LA, perhaps because of the stronger alumni network and extreme prestige of Goldman. Moelis LA however is catching up in recent years as funds that have never taken a Moelis guy before are now hiring from their analyst classes. Definitely interesting to see how the two will fare over time, but for now, I think GS SF TMT has the upper hand.

SB'd, great breakdown. Curious: do the non-TMT guys at GS SF get the same looks?

Jan 23, 2013

I'd brag about it on WSO.

Jan 24, 2013

was this for gs tmt nyc? if so, damn...

Jan 24, 2013
bananawhore:

was this for gs tmt nyc? if so, damn...

Sorry for not clarifying. The GS TMT offer was SF, not NY

Jan 24, 2013
CREDO:

A good friend of mine just chose Moelis LA over GS for a Summer Analyst position...

WWYD in this situation?

The reason this is news is that people usually turn down Moelis LA for GS. Now for the first time in history...

May 6, 2013

Impressive amount of MS thrown ITT

Apr 9, 2018

Do people have any updated thoughts on this decision (assuming SF TMT)? If your priorities are PE/HF exits, work-life balance, culture.

Apr 9, 2018

I'm sure you've seen the recent posts about the email sent by a Moelis staffer, which might help you in better understanding the work-life balance at Moelis.

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