HBS interview invitations are out?!

Hey guys. According to this post from the director of HBS admissions, round 1 interview invitations were scheduled to begin to go out on Oct 16:

http://www.hbs.edu/mba/admissions/blog.html

Can anyone confirm that some have begun to go out?

Thanks!

 

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GordonGecko:
Yeah, I am a non-traditional background engineering/military so I really am second-guessing myself with each passing day I don't get an invite. If I do get an invite I will be shaking in my boots (literally) because there is so much riding on it.

HBS is a very tough nut to track. Don't be discouraged if you don't get it. With your background, you're going to land a solid Wall Street job out of any top 10 school.

 
GordonGecko:
Yeah, I am a non-traditional background engineering/military so I really am second-guessing myself with each passing day I don't get an invite. If I do get an invite I will be shaking in my boots (literally) because there is so much riding on it.

Dee says there are still a significant number of invitations to go

http://www.hbs.edu/mba/admissions/blog.html

 

Cheer up, Gordy. I had just written off Wharton due to no invite and ended up getting one this morning. And Wharton/HBS run on pretty close to the same schedule.

Due to my specific numbers/background/situation/gender, I figured I should have been pretty high on Wharton's hit list, but they obviously got around to my invite pretty late in the game. I'm starting to think that the order in which they contact you doesn't have a whole lot to do with your quality as a candidate. (Or maybe I'm just a crappier candidate than I thought. That's possible too.)

Data points: Received the HBS interview invite on October 23rd, interviewed November 2nd. Received Wharton invite on November 5th. Applied to both schools September 30th.

 

" I guess I should consider myself lucky if my life's greatest failure was attending Darden or Columbia istead of HBS or Wharton or Chicago."

Good call. Hey, you want to do IB long term, right? You'll get the same IB Associate job coming out of Columbia or Darden that an HBS grad gets.

 

Well, the more I learn about PE/VC the more I hope to transition to it in the long term. I know HBS is the place to go for that. I think I may try another Hail Mary with Stanford for R2 if I get my other apps done in time. The hardest part about doing a lot of apps is getting recommenders. Guy I knew got dinged without an interview at HBS and got in Stanford 2nd round.

 
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Well, Gordy, I dislike it when people give me false reassurance, and I don't know you well enough to fully understand your situation, so I won't tell you that the HBS invite will land in your mailbox tomorrow. But I seriously doubt a guy like you -- serious soldier, capable of pulling a 4.0 in engineering -- is going to end up with a really bad career/life outcome. I think you'll get into IB if you really want to get into IB. There are doors and then there are windows.

I'm feeling similar things. My numbers are a little better, but my current employment situation is less than ideal. And if I don't get into Stanford specifically, I screw over my husband for the third time since 2006. As in, the guy pretty much has to give up his life and his career. For the third time. (A good marriage can survive a lot, but sometimes the karmic debt is a real doozy.)

I've got the numbers and the experience, but let me tell you -- Stanford's got a single-digit acceptance rate, and folks with 750+ GMATs and 3.7 GPAs are going to be dinged without an interview. Especially this year. Particularly if there's some tiny little thing wrong.

So I've got no Stanford interview invite yet. But all folks like you and I can do right now is to stay cool and not kick ourselves until the ding letters hit our inboxes.

P.S. One of the questions the adcom from HBS asked me was "What was your biggest regret about your undergrad experience?" My honest answer: "I sacrificed too much for that GPA. Too many weekends, too many evenings, too many potential friendships. I was too busy racking up the As to be a real college student." And now I can't go back. So just remember: we all have our regrets, and they're all pretty bitter.

 
Gordon.Gekko:
SirBankalot, Dude--STFU. Thanks for the words of encouragement--I got a Wharton interview today.
This actually should give a lot of us hope. Gordon's profile is really, really average. Served in miitary, had a pitiful ugrad GPA, no finance business experience, decent GMAT and bam Wharton interview. Unless they have some sort of need to fill their soldier quota, it seems like I'll be a shoe in to Penn after I finish my analyst stint.
 
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Gordy, congrats. Perhaps you and I will be classmates.

SirBanks -- I've never claimed to be the kind of genius that makes straight As without sacrifice. Particularly since my undergrad school was a competitive BBA program with a curve. Only 15% of students were allowed to make As or A-minuses in core classes. I did sacrifice a lot to maintain a 3.9+ in that environment until my final year. I went into summer internship recruiting with a 4.0 and I went into full-time recruiting with something above a 3.95 (I forget exactly what it was, but one teacher had given me a B+ that previous spring).

However, as you clearly saw by my GPA, that final year was my "I'm going to take risks and be a real college student before I go be a BB IBD analyst" year. That year was... let's just say that it wasn't a sacrifice. My GPA went from 3.95+ to 3.64 real fast. I took some crazy classes, had a little bit of fun. And it was good.

Mactrader: nobody but an adcom person can really tell you your "chances". We can play with numbers but at the end of the day it's just a finger in the wind. That said, here's how I figure it. Harvard admits 12% of total applicants. We want to know what our chances are of being in that 12%, which means we're trying to guess how we look in comparison to the rest of the population. In other words, are we in the top 12% from the point of view of admissions? And, of course, a lot more goes into that than just what your numbers are and where you worked.

Either there is something wrong with your application (in which your chances will be quite slim) or there isn't (in other words, you are in the realm of high GPA/GMAT and good work experience). In your case it sounds like you fall into the latter category. However, we all know that Harvard receives far more applications from 3.7 bulge bracket 750's than they can admit, and the final choice depends on little stuff like demographics, how much the adcom liked you in person, and the desired final class blend. Each school's got their recipe for special sauce, after all.

It's anybody's guess how many of HBS's applicants fall into the "no obvious dings" category, but I'd guess as many as 40%. I think I fall into that category myself, with a 3.6/770 and some good work experience. If I were a white male I'd probably call my own chances close to 30%; I figure I'm more like 35% as a woman (particularly since women tend to score 30-40 points lower on the GMAT than men). According to an adcom friend of mine, schools particularly like it when, in admitting a single person, they can increase both their female/male ratio and their average GMAT.

 
Gordon.Gekko:
Yeah, well, good luck. Dinged after interview. Its funny how you don't know me in the slightest outside of my gpa and gmat yet you call me average.
Face the facts: Bschool admissions are really 3 factors, GPA, Work Experience, GMAT GMAT: 720 is good, but very average for these schools, it's not going to help them offset a lower score like a 750+ would. Ugpa: Pitiful, sub 3.0, from I'm guessing a non target, when you have people who went to Ivies, Stanford, Amherst, WIliams with 3.5s getting dinged. Your masters can't counteract the fact you were lazy. Work Experience: Again, you're up against people at KKR, Blackstone, Goldman, ML, and all you can say is that you served in the military. No pun intended but you're outgunned.
 

FutureBanker09, not only do you come across as someone with little tact, you also exhibit little awareness of how the business school application process works. I'm surprised you don't demonstrate more respect for people that put themselves in danger to serve our nation while you hide behind your computer screen in your humble dorm room.

Furthermore, the fact that you think you're a shoo-in at any of the top business schools after an analyst stint reflects a potential lack of leadership on your end. What value do you think you will add to your business school class, as someone that's moderately competent at crunching numbers on Excel? Because that's really all you'll be doing as an analyst unless you have some way to demonstrate leadership that goes significantly above and beyond your call of duty.

As someone that will be matriculating at one such business school that you've referenced in your posts, I would hope not to have someone that's so eager to make misinformed and narrow-minded statements as part of my same alumni network. And I mean this in the most sincere of ways.

​* http://www.linkedin.com/in/numicareerconsulting
 

Gordon, if nothing else, im definitely happy to see that atleast someone still has the maturity to not be dragged down to the crap futurebanker is saying...its best to ignore those kids. kid prolly gets freaked by a stress interview, forget if he ever went through basic or anything

hope bschool works out for u!

 

Future Banker09, for some perspective, I'm also a military guy, average GPA, slightly above average GMAT, not a "target" school as you say, and I'm going to a top three from round 1.

You have no idea what you're talking about if you think that the finance guys are competing against military officers for slots. 1) we are part of an entirely different demographic 2) we make our money off of 5+ years of real leadership experience, which I'd say analysts, finance guys in general, and consultants have....none?! (not a slight, just a fact)

So if you think the ibankers and the Indian IT engineers and the military officers and the Peace Corps volunteers are being looked at the same, you're kidding yourself. Best of luck with the school search.

 

Does HBS look at your overall College GPA or just last 2 years to get their average? I have like a 3.95 in my last two years but overall i have about a 3.6..

hmm was just wondering.

 

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