I just watched the hearing on the Obamacare website fiasco. It was comical to see 80 plus year old congress people talk about websites and other congress people try to figure out what scale-ability means. The whole thing makes me think we would all be better be off beating ourselves over the head with a pan.
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How about we require that anyone making rules about computers actually know how to use one. Personally, I think that humanity makes progress each time the last elders of the old generation die off. Because grandpa doesn't know what an interwebz is, the legislative process has to grind to a halt? How about ship them off the the home, they've outlived their usefullness.
LOL at all the contractors passing the buck around. Are there any big kids at this thing? Jeez, how about just hire some whiz kids from Silicone Valley, this shouldn't even be an issue.
Be quiet peasant.
Whoa there tough nuts. Some of us post while working. My MD isn't going to lose their shit if I typed something hastily while on a call.
We've spent $600 million on a website that doesn't work while issuing a no-bid contract to a Canadian IT firm. The Obamacare supporters like UFOInsider aren't going to weasel their way out of this thing by laughing at old people. The fact is, this website fiasco is demonstrative of exactly how completely incompetent and corrupt our government is. This isn't even a surprise to me. Only to left wing liberal Democrats has this level of incompetence come as a surprise.
Average age at the beginning of the term was 62.2. http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/R41647.pdf 2 over 80 and 23 over 70 in the senate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_United_States_Senators_by_…
I can only think of one response "Kids get off my lawn!!!!"
What's hilarious is that we've actually got idiot journalists like Ezra Klein debating proper software development methodology. Are you fucking kidding me...
I would bet my first, second, and third-born children that the author of this piece hadn't heard of "agile development" until 12 hours before she had to write this article:
"The better way to do things is a school of software development called Agile -- it's been around since the 1950s, was basically codified in the early 2000s, now has a whole non-profit devoted to it, and is the dominant form of software design in teams. Rather than moving from one static stage to the next, it emphasizes constant iteration and testing, with prototypes building on prototypes so the endpoint is something that works. The only problem, from a government perspective, is that you need to be comfortable with not knowing exactly that they will look like." via The Washington Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/21/the-way-gove…
No wait, they should be using "polymorphism" instead:
"Sure, big projects require more code than small ones. But my programmer friends tell me a number like 500 million suggests the Healthcare.gov contractors may be writing their own code in many places where they'd be better off relying on open-source external libraries. They may also be solving problems via copy-and-paste rather than more elegant programming techniques such as inheritance or polymorphism." via Slate: http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/10/21/healthcare_gov_probl…
Not bad sir, shitty day and I got a laugh out of it.
FYI, Ezra Klein is a "he", more or less. Thought I'd correct that.
Yeah he wasn't the author of that piece. Some girl wrote it for Klein's "Wonkblog" though, so I still blame him for it.
They can't develop a functioning website, but are going to re-design 1/6 of our economy...
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Y'all can be as hung up on your political views as you like, I'm buying HC insurance stox. The point of our jobs is to make money, not be so hung up on our ethical preferances that we pass up profitable opportunities. The finance folks that can't see the upside here are the same type of dolts who have been selling off for the last three years and missing out a bull market.
You disagree, maybe find another job, I don't know what to tell you.
Who said anything about profiting or not profiting? There's an entire thread with you sucking the proverbial c*ck of Obamacare just a few weeks ago. The government is too incompetent to build a website that could have been built with a pdf matrix and a GoDaddy account for $50 and yet you think the government should control the healthcare system with 10,500+ pages of rules and regulations that were not even read or understood by the authors.
I want you to man up and admit that the American federal government is too incompetent to manage the system well and that this healthcare law isn't "reform" at all.
Just buy DVA and win.
If they can't fix this, you're right. I'm somewhat confused how the contractors they hired are having such a hard time to build this. However, I see the conceptual part of this as superior to the current arrangment. I see the HC industry approaching the levels of efficiency and cost effectiveness of the auto insurance business with this system. People can oppose this on ideological grounds, but even that baffles me considering these are the same people that liked the system Romney set up. Personally, I'm apolitical and basically interested in ethics and the actual policy more than who gets credit for what and what "brand label" of thinking is out there. Capitalist, socialist, anarchism, liberal and libertarianism (both from the Latin "Liber" ironically)....all these ideologies are just frameworks of thinking that weak minded people cling to out of their lack of ability to understand the real world.
If it works and makes improvements to our country, I'd expect you to equally 'man up'. But I don't know you and probably won't be here in a year or two from now and therefore don't care. Think what you want dude, but this program is going to be here for a while and you'd be better served learning how to profit from it instead of whining about it all the time. If the gov't can run the mightiest military on earth, I'm pretty sure they can figure out how to allocate payments for pills and whatnot....it's a function of will.
I'll agree with this part for sure: they need to hire some better programmers.
You're "apolitical". Right. Maybe I should quote you're far left wing rantings. What I can tell you is that you're disingenuous to the highest order when you say that we supported Romneycare. What we support has ALWAYS been FEDERALISM, that is, the right of sovereign states to be run as they see fit. If the people of Massachusetts want a clusterf*ck of a healthcare system then that's their prerogative.
I don't see how a rational person can read about the absolute nightmare that Obamacare has morphed into in the last 3 1/2 years and say that he believes the new system will be superior to the now-former system. Obamacare was sold as a "net cost savings" at $900 billion over 10 years. That number has morphed into $2.6 trillion. Obamacare promised to be universal healthcare. 30 million people will remain uninsured and as many as 20 million will lose their insurance. Obamacare was supposed to save the average family $2,500 per year. Forbes estimates that it will actually cost the typical family of four $7,400. Obamacare was promised to be an egalitarian system; now it has morphed into a system where Big Business, Big Labor, well connected cronies, and Congress are exempted, often by executive fiat. And I could go on.
Oh yeah, and the thing I like best is how Obama PROMISED that if you like your health insurance you can keep it. Thousands of people (myself included) have received letters saying that if we got our health insurance after March 1, 2010 then we would not be grandfathered in and we would LOSE our insurance! We would have to switch over to an Obama approved plan! It's breathtaking!
Dude, the shutdown was ALL on the republicans, and barely anyone really thought they'd even do it. It's just all political posturing. If they really gave a damn, maybe consider that because of what they did tapering had to be delayed...that's the GOP's fault. In a year or so the debt will come front and center, even hardcore liberals are starting to worry about it, but in the meantime perhaps consider that you are not seeing things clearly.
Look at it this way: Chris Cristie will most likely be president in a couple of years, and if the kinks aren't worked out on this by then, it will likely be dismantled. In the meantime, it's kind of hard to get anything done when one party basically turns every.freaking.thing into a political football. Honestly, I have yet for you to even address any of what I've ever said directly, you just fly into a rage and start spouting talk show crap. Seriously, I can't even waste time debating you in your current state, let alone communicate any ideas to.
My biggest issue is how the Dems and Obama refused to push this off for one year for individuals (as Republicans asked), basically being as pig headed as they were, and shut the government down and pushed the US to the brink. Then the Republicans back down and we are hearing about Democrats and Obama talking about extending deadlines and pushing dates back.
Seeing all the issues with Obamacare I don't think it is unreasonable to give it another year to roll out and work out the kinks...Just as the Republicans wanted. I suppose that wouldn't satisfy political goals though.
So in the end the Dems are just as much, if not more to blame for the whole shut down and debt ceiling crisis. And even worse, this is a program pushed entirely by them, force feed to the public and now it is an epic cluster fuck. Just like most shit involving the government.
I really don't see how anyone can honestly say the shut down was all Republicans. I seem to remember the President saying how he wont negotiate. Since both sides have to compromise whatever side refuses to negotiate effectively causes the issue.
And what did Republicans want? Obamacare delayed a year for individuals as it is being delayed for businesses. Seems fair. And what is happening right now? Looks like it is going to be delayed for individuals because it was half assed and rolled out improperly.
Just wait until all the people lose their insurance and see sticker shock when they go to buy insurance. And god forbid them don't buy it. You have people thinking the fine is just $95 bucks. Wait until the 1% of income fine hits their ass.
"Even if the Senate had agreed to House demands, President Obama threatened to veto any bill that would delay the Affordable Care Act."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/10/24/democrats-waver-…
I 100% am against any delays at this point. If people don't sign up the get fined, done.
They voted for him. They wanted Obamacare. They got it now they own it. Enjoy getting fined and losing your insurance. Just as everyone said would happen.
Put your faith in the government and this is what happens. Never mind Bengazi, never mind the endless NSA debacle. Never mind the IRS going after political groups. Never mind the ramp up of the IRS auditing small businesses and everyone else as a way to milk every penny from people.
http://swampland.time.com/2013/10/24/traffic-didnt-crash-the-obamacare-…
The best thing I have seen out of this was the pic of Sen. Brian Kelsey handing Sebelius a websites for dummies book
I just learned some new information.
From sources inside the company that provided the backbone server management. The initial hardware setup of the servers had a major issue. The techs plugged the fiber line into the wrong port on the internal routers. This essentially caused the system to do a DDOS attack on itself.
Not to mention that the government purchased piss poor equipment and had to repurchase quality hardware.
Oh one more thing, they had no back-up at all. As in they didn't think it was necessary.
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