Hi, I've never posted here before and am a senior trying to decide between Wharton and Yale. I want to go into PE or HF (I think), but I assume both schools have flexibility so that isn't that important yet. Is any significantly better for recruiting/ job opportunities or are they close enough that I should just pick the one I'd rather spend 4 years at? I'm leaning towards Yale, but I am still pretty undecided and any insight would be great. Thanks
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I was in the same situation as you. I ended up choosing Wharton. If you want to get into banking, go to the one you prefer. Both are pretty close (though Wharton is ahead). If you want to get into PE or HFs, Wharton is much better. Some PE fand HF firms recruit solely out of Wharton. The PE firms that recruit at both take almost double the number of Wharton kids than Yale kids, so your network in PE will be much bigger. Also, you can network with Wharton MBAs as well. The Wharton network is far larger than the Yale network. Plus, student life at Penn is better. Ceteris paribus, if a Whartonite and a Yalie where applying for a PE job, the Whartonite would get the job because PE firms are small and cannot train up their staff like an IB, the Wharton kid knows basically all he needs to know. Wharton gets more respect on Wall street. But, to me at least, what is more important than all of that is the fact that you will have a LOT more fun at Penn than Yale.
Here is a link to my thread:
//www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/wharton-or-hyp-for-undergrad
This is a post I made there:
I think that I've narrowed it down to Penn-Wharton and Princeton. Right now I am leaning towards Wharton slightly, but my dad wants me to go to Princeton because of lay prestige. In your experience, which school generally has more tolerable people? Do the top analysts tend to come from one school over the other? I ask because someone from Penn told me that the Wharton kids tend to be the top analysts. He says that’s because they know their shit cold from day one. Apparently, the other HYP kids have a steep learning curve to get over – which they do, most of the time. He argued that even though the other kids catch up on a functional level after six months, the Wharton kids still have an advantage because they have been practicing for longer; their business education is also far more in-depth than the education provided during the job training session. The Penn dude also showed me a book by Malcom Gladwell called Outliners. In this book, Gladwell argues that it takes 10 thousand hours to become truly proficient at anything; Wharton is bound to help me get more of those hours tucked away. As an athlete, I am a strong believer in the 10 thousand hour rule. Does Wharton put me at a competitive advantage? I am interested in studying business and do look up to Professors like Siegel. Lastly, he said that since I want to get into the trading / hedge fund field, the Wharton network is second to none in those sectors. If true, that would probably be a deal breaker for me. I've also heard that Penn is called the social-ivy and has an awesome party scene; if true, that's a big plus. Is Penn any more sociable and fun that HYP? Have any of you guys heard of Spring Fling? I’ve been told that parties at Princeton are tame in comparison. Are Penn / Wharton guys cooler to be around and easier to work with?
On the other hand, Princeton has a wonderful campus and is generally considered one of the world’s premier universities. The whole concept of a liberal arts education is interesting. Although business is my main passion, I feel that I may want to dabble in philosophy or history. My only fear is this: if I don’t make it to banking, I will have no skills to fall back on and I will end up as a teacher or something like that. As opposed to Wharton where I will have rock solid finance skills to get me some type of job in the industry.
Yale if you can get in to Skull & Bones.
wharton
Either school will be fine. You are talking about totally different dynamics. Penn is in the middle of one of America's largest cities. University City is pretty cool, lot of things happening, Philly is great and there are a lot of financial firms to intern at, etc.
Yale is more secluded, not in the heart of a city like Penn. Great campus and amazing educational opportunities. Parties will be good or bad at either school. Your choosing between Ivy's. You go to an Ivy for the network, prestige, education not because the parties are ground breaking. You wanna get wasted and sleep with hot girls then go to Florida or any large sports school.
Which do you like better. That is all that your decision should be based off of.
monkeyslikefruit--I had a similar decision, and I've sent you a personal message.
i had a similar decision. it's been about 6 years, but the end advice is the same. pick the school with the better fit for you. go to campus visits, walk around, meet the people, and make your decision based on where you are happiest and where you see yourself.
And think about this. Enjoy the fact that you're 18, you have a world of possibilities before you, and recognize that there's a good chance by sophomore year you've decided you love History more than anything else in the world and your career path is as a professor, for example. Don't make a choice now that limits your options going forward.
Finally - Wharton has a great name, really a superb school, but if you think that Yale will in any way impair your job prospects, you're out of your mind. Both will get you where you want to go, although with a username like Bleedblue at the end of the day I have to plug my alma mater and tell you Yale's the best.
Congratulations on your options, and enjoy the next four years.
Thanks for all the input! I'm going to visit both schools again and see which one i prefer. Financial aid will probably be significantly better at Yale too, but that isn't final yet. It's good to hear from people who have actually gone to the schools, I'm not too concerned which has the better name.
If you like gay sex, go to Yale. If not, go to Princeton (if you got in).
You can do anything you want after Wharton. Whartonites become doctors, Profs (Gene Falk at Princeton) and even Supreme Court justices (Brennan). Remember, business, finance, management skills, and all of the other things you get out of a Wharton education are essential in every field. Penn Med School is the oldest med school in America, and part of the med school HYP (Harvard Hopkins Penn), a few Whartonites end up there and at other top med and law schools every year. You lose nothing by attending Wharton since half of your courses are liberal arts courses, so your son can still get a broad based education and study what he is most interested in. When he graduates, any employer and grad school will want you. Whartonites are at the top of the recruiting pile in Wall Street.
Actually, going to Wharton is beneficial because it allows you to then go on and get a law degree or another degree of your preference outside of business. You already know everything the top MBA students know and your degree is respected as much as an MBA, most Whartonites do not go back to get an MBA because it is useless to them. BUT, if you do go to an MBA program, going to Wharton also allows you to place out of basic courses in an MBA program and lets you take more electives, essentially giving you a super MBA.
No door that is open to a Yalie is closed to a Wharton kid; but if you want to get directly into Private equity or hedge funds, the reverse is not as true since kids with a business background are strongly preferred in such firms due to their size.
[quote=swimmerboy Actually, going to Wharton is beneficial because it allows you to then go on and get a law degree or another degree of your preference outside of business. You already know everything the top MBA students know and your degree is respected as much as an MBA, most Whartonites do not go back to get an MBA because it is useless to them. BUT, if you do go to an MBA program, going to Wharton also allows you to place out of basic courses in an MBA program and lets you take more electives, essentially giving you a super MBA. [/quote]
i'm still lol-ing over here
Wharton is beneficial b/c you can get a law degree afterwards.....drumroll please..... because you can't get a law degree after attending any 4 university, Yale included
If you did Wharton ugrad and then somehow find yourself needing an MBA in the future, you "place" out of basic courses....This isn't AP english dude, you don't place out of MBA courses.
Super MBA- Lolz all the way to the lol bank
also, what is with this onslaught of HIGH SCHOOL doofuses (doofi?), cough monyet cough, coming on here proffering the kind of sage advice that 18 year olds so often possess?
go back to talkcollegeconfidential where you belong skip
just bc you picked wharton doesnt mean its better than yale. You are a senior in HS too so the op should take all the bs youre spewing with a grain of salt. half the shit youre saying isnt even true. the op should go to yale so he doesnt have deal with this tool in his classes
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