How do I know if I can legally work in the UK?
Some personal info to help:
- I am a US citizen
- I have a passport
- I have no criminal record
Is there any additional paperwork I need to work in London or am ok with just my passport? Will an employer take care of it for me? Sorry for the ignorance, I have not been outside the country minus Canada.
You don't have permission to work in London. You'll need a visa to work in London; because the UK government are being protectionist dickheads, there are fewer Tier 1 visas available, and banks are probably not going to be willing to sponsor you. Sorry, but you're almost certainly not going to get hired in London.
This sort of sentiment really pisses me off as it is a two way deal. As a British student I would face identical restrictions if I wanted to move elsewhere. The UK is a TINY country and the visa restrictions REFLECT THESE INHERENT PRACTICALITIES. Given its size, the US is a different gravy altogether and is far better positioned to handle this conflict between capacity and demand.
For example, many UK students are annoyed that foreign students are taking up places on UK Undergraduate programmes. This is completely justified, as it is their parents who pay the taxes that subsidize the education system. There are only a handful of outstanding British Universities, so why would they want to be educated elsewhere - it's not their fault that the rest of the world, asides from the US, has failed to step up. Granted, international students pay higher fees, but these fees are still often well below what they would pay as a domestic student in their home country.
This dilemma has transitioned into the job market. It is only natural for the British government to seek to help its working age population. What would be its incentive for penalizing its electorate? I could understand it if the UK was as large as the US and international students were all fucking genius level Quantum Physicists, but they aren't. In fact, they are probably par at best.
So, my question to you is this: why do you expect the British government to disadvantage its own working age population in order to advantage other people instead?
It is only natural for the British government to help its native students - that is what it is there for. I was fortunate to be educated at a US University on an athletic scholarship. I am eternally grateful for this but I would NEVER in a million years expect the US government to hold my interests in higher regard than a US international.
You may say that the international candidate adds much diversity in many aspects. The visa restrictions incorporate this consideration and ensures that this diversity compliments rather than consumes.
Don't be ignorant. Firstly, US immigration policies are as dumb or dumber than UK policies. Secondly, as a city-state (realistically, nothing outside of London is economically viable or worthwhile), the UK's "inherent practicalities" dictate that it is incredibly DEPENDENT on foreign talent and workers. Do you think that banks and multinationals will continue to locate in London if they can't employ the foreign workers they want to? I've got news for you, buddy - there aren't enough smart British kids to cut it.
Visa restrictions have nothing to do with helping the British people; if anything, they disadvantage the British people. They're blatant xenophobia, and appeal to your basest instincts. The UK could not function with out foreign talent, and if you want to keep being protectionist dickheads, we're more than happy to pack up our bags and go somewhere else.
Lol. That may be a setback.
Nothing like having your hopes and dreams shat upon huh dude...in all seriousness though, if you have been in contact with a desk or bank in London, they know about this issue and have already considered it.
I know a couple people (US citizens) who just recently moved from the NYC office to the London office of a bank... so I guess it is possible? I have no idea how hard it is though
I'm assuming it is much easier for a lateral move than for hiring an SA. I'm hoping mchappypants is right and this is already considered before hand, removing the chance for some last minute surprise.
The issue is that banks have a limited number of visas they can sponsor, and that everyone senior to you is in line before you. I know people who have had to leave London offices because of this, and I know people for whom it has been an issue with getting job offers. If they've considered it, you may be all right, but I am telling you it is a significant issue.
UK Banks will not sponsor SA or even new entrants to enter and work in the UK. There is always an option on the online application form asking this and it's often stated that if you don't have a visa, you will not be able to get one through the Bank.
Generally, they are also not going to wait for you to go out and get your national insurance number. You need to have done this before applying.
What about doing an MSF (say at LSE or Oxbridge)? After spending a year there for the MSF, is it difficult to stay and work there?
If you get a degree in the U.K. (Undergraduate or Masters), then you are normally allowed to work after. Unfortunately, I cannot remember the exact period of this extension, but I think it's something like a year. Within that year, you should be able to get your Bank to sponsor you. Once you're in, it's a lot easier to get a visa than if you're trying to get into the U.K.
If you do a masters in the UK you can apply for a Tier 1: Post-study visa which lasts for two year. After that it is easy to switch to a Tier 1 General for 2 more years (I just finished this process and it was pretty painless). If you get a top MBA from the US (and there is a specific list the UK gov has) it is almost a guarantee to get a Tier 1 General. Otherwise, there are new immigration caps in place and the points system can be difficult if you have never worked before.
If a company is willing to sponsor you you can get a Tier 2 which is slightly easier.
If you are just looking to do an SA gig then maybe you can try for a holiday maker visa - my gf did this for a while.
This quota is also to be revisited early next year (March 31st?). Many pundits expect the quota to be greatly increased. However no one is sure yet so it is indeed affecting current hiring practices.
On a related note if interested: http://www.economist.com/node/17522626?story_id=17522626&fsrc=rss&utm_s…
[quote=DavidKappoKaplan]On a related note if interested: http://www.economist.com/node/17522626?story_id=17522626&fsrc=rss&utm_s…]
"Befuddled politicians are too often seduced by that beguiling syllogism; in the matter of immigration, Britain’s coalition government has been."
That, kids, is why you should never write in the passive voice. That sentence almost gave me an aneurysm.
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