How good is the Richard Ivey School of Business, really?
I was recently admitted AEO to the Honors Business Administration program at the Richard Ivey School of Business. I am a dual Canadian-U.S. citizen interested in working in the U.S. after graduation and would greatly appreciate it if someone could answer the following questions:
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How prestigious is it? How much cachet does the Ivey name carry in the U.S. and internationally? Would you consider it a target or semi-target in terms of U.S. recruitment?
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How does Ivey compare to top U.S. targets? If you had to name an equivalent U.S. school, what would it be?
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What percent of Ivey students manage to get offers in the United States?
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Not explicitly related to Ivey, but I have heard that banks have reduced the amount of students they hire from Canadian business schools due to increasing hurdles they face when sponsoring H-1B visas. Is is true? Given that I am a U.S. citizen, would this even affect me?
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This one is for current students and alumni. Did you enjoy your experience at Ivey? How receptive were the alumni when you reached out to them for networking purposes?
Thanks!
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Ivey carries a lot of weight in Canada in any business area (finance, consulting, etc.). In the US, Ivey is well-known within the finance industry because of grads who get seasonally recruited and done well. For example, ik some top boutique Private Equity and Hedge Fund firms that hire exclusively ivy league students (such as Wharton undergrads) also have an Ivey guy on the team as the only non-ivy league people. However, outside of US finance industry, it doesn't carry much weight tbh. In terms of US recruitment and access to opportunities, you will have more breadth of opportunities by going to a target in the US.
Not a simple answer. If you are committed to breaking into investment banking in the US particularly, u'll be less likely to do so at Ivey compared to US Semi-Target or Target just because the breadth of opportunities are less (less US companies recruiting there). At Ivey, you will get most of the top investment banks and lower tier banks usually stick with US recruits anyways. Just to give u an example, last year Goldman Sachs Investment Banking took in 9 Ivey students compared with 11 at Wharton. U can't rlly compare Ivey to the ivy leagues in terms of number of students going into Wall Street because Ivey is a business school and a greater percentage of people are inclined to break into finance than at ivy leagues. So it depends on the firms - some firms recruit at Ivey, some don't, some recruit at certain ivy leagues, others don't. Just know Ivey does get some of the top US firms but have very few positions.
About 10%
This idk. Someone else chip? Interested in knowing this as well
I'm a HS senior like u but from what ik, the networking culture at Ivey is the best in Canada. Alumni are extremely receptive and even your peers and upper years are helpful from what I hear. A lot of the top US firms recruit from ivey BECAUSE of Ivey alumni rooting for ivey grads.
Out of curiosity, where did you get that "9 Ivey grads at Goldman vs 11 Wharton grads at Goldman" figure from?
I believe employment reports at both schools should show it. Otherwise, talk to any wharton or ivey student graduating in the class of 2016.
where'd you get 10% from?
Check their most recent placement report
If you want to work in the US after grad, simply go to a US college. Wtf.
I applied ED to a Top 10 LAC here in the United States and was accepted, barring me from applying to other US schools. This basically happened because my parents were insistent on me pursuing medicine as a career path. The LAC, although a fantastic school, is by no means a target for finance recruitment. I've considered just biting the bullet by going to the LAC then transferring to a target school after my freshmen year. In Canada, I was accepted to McGill, Trinity College at the University of Toronto, and Ivey, making Ivey and McGill my only really options for a school that had solid finance recruitment. That and an Ivey degree will cost me $100,000 less than any US based degree I could get. Probably too much information, but I hope this explains why I am asking these questions.
This wouldn't affect you. I've heard from various companies that they are reducing H1B sponsorships, so it would make sense for banks (not to mention H1B's cost $ and there's plenty of workers available that don't need an H1B - like yourself). This could only benefit you. Being an American citizen with a SSN you wouldn't need Visa sponsorship - Visa sponsorship is only an issue for those who want to work in a country but don't have citizenship.
If anything, being an american, you would be at an advantage in the recruiting process. I have heard the networking at Ivey is unbelievable. Also heard the school atmosphere is the best in Canada and most similar in Canada to a big american school.
Do you think it would be substantially easier to get the job in the United States due to this.
Just another intersting thing i noticed about the culture at Ivey - the culture is really positive and there's a sense of camaraderie even with competition. Maybe it's a canadian thing. I have friends from American business schools like NYU stern undergrad tell me how toxic the competitive culture is. I also have friends from ivy leagues (Wharton included) and they tell me that most peers HATE and frown upon finance gunners (ur seen as try-hard and self-centered if you do stuff like trying to network with goldman alumni).
How does Ivey compare to top U.S. targets? If you had to name an equivalent U.S. school, what would it be?
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Anyone know the Richard Ivey recruitment numbers? (Originally Posted: 01/27/2018)
Hey everyone. I was just wondering if anyone here knows what the recruitment numbers are like at Richard Ivey for Toronto, NYC and the West Coast (IB and Consulting). I've heard someone say that almost all the people who want to get into banking get in either in NYC, LA or Toronto. Is this true?
Are they comparable to top schools in the States also taking into consideration the larger class size (around 600 I think)
Thanks
loool no way. You need to be top at least top 5% to have a decent shot at US banking.
Western does really well for Toronto banking though. No, Western does not hold a candle to top 20 schools in the U.S.
Due to recent Visa reform in the US, you will be seeing less and less employers willing to sponsor Canadians. With that being said, if you want U.S., go study at a top U.S. school.
Would you know how many people from Ivey get FT in Toronto per year?
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Ivey Business School(UWO Canada)’s chance of breaking into NYC IBank (Originally Posted: 04/15/2015)
Dear WSO,
How good or bad is Richard Ivey Business School of Western Ontario University in Canada for New York Office recruiting?
Does Ivey place a few kids to NYC GS/JPM/MS each year?
Does Ivey been considered as a semi-target or target or non-target for US office?
What is Ivey's counterpart in the states? Like Umich Ross?
Thanks for your time!!
Pre crisis, Ivey was one of the top feeder school to BBs (I have seen placement numbers a few times so Google and you shall find) and I know quite a few Ivey grad who went to top BBs and then PE shops. However, most banks stopped sponsoring for Visa post crisis so given hardly any Ivey students are american citizens, placement has really really dropped. Maybe that has changed in the last year of two (I am getting a bit removed from UG recruiting), but I don't think so.
BTW, I know technically employers don't have to sponsor people on TN visas, but the program is so fucked and banks (along with other employers) don't like having to lie about your job title and description.
According to the most recent HBA employment report, DB is the only BB that does not hire from Ivey.
Try getting the name of the school right
Are you also applying to the University of Harvard, or the Stern School of New York University Business?
Silver Lake recruits there.
How does Ivey Business school compare to US or UK business schools? (Originally Posted: 10/25/2017)
I would like to apply AEO to the Honors Business Administration program at the Ivey School of Business. I am a Hong Kong-Canadian citizen interested in working in the HK / Canada after graduation. How does Ivey Business school compare to US or UK business schools, such as LSE, Warwick, Manchester etc?
It's on the list of target schools for Canada so I assume your alumni place pretty well up there. Not sure about HK though.
https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/here-are-the-target-undergraduat…
Less favourably to LSE, more favourably than Warwick and Manchester
DOES RICHARD IVEY HAVE S&T PRESENCE?? (Originally Posted: 11/10/2009)
Hey guys,
I'm really interested in becoming a trader. I am planning to go to Richard Ivey School of Business. I hear they send a few kids to US bulge brackets for IB but I was wondering if they send any for S&T?
Any help is appreciated :)
never even heard of the school...good luck man
they mostly stay in canada
it's about as good as it gets in canada
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I've know some Waterloo students who have done some S&T coops. Jane Street recruits at Waterloo.
I know a couple of Waterloo hotshots who've been talking to MS, CS, UBS, etc. If you're a math genius they'll look at you in S&T.
Waterloo math & computer science would be a better degree than business even at Ivy.
Ivey UWO First Round Acceptance? (Originally Posted: 03/01/2012)
Hey I applied to the Ivey School of Business this year (currently a 2nd year student). Does anyone know when exactly they sound out first round acceptances? I know they are supposedly sometime in March. Anyone know that range of dates?
Thanks in advance, Market McFly
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