How Fucked Am I?

I go to a non-target UC and am currently an D1 Athlete majoring in Economics with ~3.00 GPA after my freshman year. Seeking advice balancing academics, internships, and athletics. Does pursuing athletics at the expense of a lower GPA supplement each other? I am already aware my GPA is shit, but I have changed my major this year from hardline Economics to a easier business degree in hopes to pump those numbers up. Also what are your thoughts on quitting my sport after my second year and not finishing all the way through? If I quit I could possible give me more time for networking and internships. How fucked am I?

 
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I felt the same as you last year so i will try to help, just to provide some context ; i play a varsity sport, i work part time, I am double majoring in econ +math at a semi with a high gpa and heavily involved with networking, tutoring, clubs etc.

This isn't pre 2008 where some lax bro from duke with a 3.0 can get into GS/MS/JPM, the competition is getting crazier each year and there are a ton of athletes who have high gpas at better universities. A 3.0 isn't that bad, sure it could be better but you could easily get that up to a 3.5 with some better time management maybe even a 3.75 if you go hardcore or take an extra semester if you feel as though it would provide a better chance for recruiting.

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Here are my ways of managing time and maintaining good grades ( this is just basic stuff but i believe it may spark some ideas for you) ;

  1. Be early

Start everything early as possible ( readings, group work, studying). Gordon was right , time is the biggest commodity and unless you are on the bench wondering how you are going to tell that hot chick from sigma pi pi how you're the next star player then you can't be wasting the small amount you do have on useless activities.Be proactive and make group chats with everyone in your seminar or find a ton of smart people who are friendly enough that can help you out if you don't understand the material or find a reliable study partner who can motivate you. This is crucial because not only does it make you more focused when learning the subject content but it also helps you cultivate valuable relationships that can be a massive assistance when your too time constrained to finish all the readings or too tired from the tournament to go to class and write down the notes. Seriously i have been saved a couple times just by making friends with the shy students majoring in cs or pre med because they actually enjoy teaching and feel better about making you smarter, win win for everyone involved.

  1. Organization matters

A simple concept that i find most people overlook. Make your bed, have laundry baskets for training/ practice gear, daily wear and club/bar clothes, avoid getting that stereotypical athlete room surround by mountains of gatorade bottles and boxes of left over pizza hut. Yes I know this sounds very elementary but as the semester and season progress you would be surprised by how people forget about it or become too lazy to care.

Use google calendar , excel or put a calendar on your wall to keep track of due dates, practice times, tournament dates, study sessions in order to have a weekly update on tasks that need to be completed or that have been completed already. I tend to avoid trying to remember because even the most basic things i forgot and it becomes stressful to wonder if anything is due tomorrow night without any way of confirming it. Personally i began using excel just for counting macros and motivating myself to stick to a diet but i use it for so much more now. I began creating spreadsheets to monitor my loan repayment amounts, credit card debt as well as payment deposits from my job, scheduled study time with friends, important club events etc. It has made my weeks so much easier and provided a simple solution to becoming more disciplined and self sufficient.

  1. Talk to your coach and/or teammates

Assuming your coach isn't a selfish old asshole and your teammates aren't judgemental then talk to them about adjusting as a student athlete and how to balance both aspects of life. No one in their right mind would choose being a failing D1 star player over being a star student with internships at prestigious firms so this needs to be dealt with before you worry about networking and think about getting an internship. If your coach is unwillingly to help and your teammates don't offer much advice then transfer schools or talk to an athletic director or someone who can help you. I would assume that the university would provide student athlete specific tutoring or academic counselling. There is truly nothing worse to risk the your professional life in exchange for 4 years of college sports, no one cares about Dee Milner anymore but I bet you that student from UOA with a 4.0 working at Baml has a better network and linear path to make his desired amount of compensation.

If the econ major seems hard then switch to finance. I have heard that finance is much more interesting and understandable so the GPA tends to be higher.

In reality you are not fucked at all just slightly behind the goal but not in a left 4 dead situation. Improve your time management skills, practice mediation or whatever you need to get through the early morning practices and late night fitness sessions, most importantly believe in yourself to achieve the high GPA and disregard the outside noise that influences you. I don't think you should quit until you can confidently say that your GPA is direct result of your involvement with the team and will not help you in your pursuit for IB, HF, S&T etc. Also you could always transfer if you feel as though you deserve better.

 

Bad news first: you're pretty fucked for major IB internships. 3.0 from a non-target is very long odds. We can talk all we want about believing in yourself and trying to be the rare exception . . and you should absolutely try because the process of trying ends up being great prep (see good news in a sec) . . but we should always start with the accurate diagnosis that the typical dream of a BB or other major brand is not likely to happen.

Good news: whatever you wanted out of IB in the long-term is very easily attainable by putting in 1-2 years in an adjacent role (a small IB or other finance role) and then transferring into an IB analyst job. I know many who've done this and are happy they did. Some are even relieved it worked out that way, because they started at a company and then moved to IB and then had a broader business perspective that helped them in their post-IB job (either PE or HF in most cases).

You should still follow all the advice of leonardo dicaprisun in the post above this. It could work out and even if it doesn't, you'll learn so much from the process that it will pay off in either your FT job search or down the road when you're making the switch to IB.

 

I completely agree about the chances of Big Bank internships are a very, very long shot. I’m curious though on your opinion about quitting the whole athletics thing after my sophomore year. Like do you think it would look bad that I couldn’t follow through with the whole four years?

 

I don't think it will matter much, so you should decide how important it is to you personally.

Nobody will knock you for quitting. People give up sports all the time, its no big deal. Vast majority give it up well before college. So there's no tangible harm in quitting and you'll get a lot of time back.

I do think the chance to play a D1 sport is pretty special though and probably gives a lot of life long memories. Plus, its probably giving back a good chunk of the time it takes from you, in terms of keeping you in shape and putting structure in your schedule and all that. If you're enjoying it I'm not sure there's enough benefit to quitting.

 

put your mind to it. obviously sports are a time constraint, but I met someone who woke up in the early AM to play varsity soccer, take classes, work a job, train for long distance runs, and still manage to pull through with a high GPA and secure IB internship that led to a full time job, he's now a VP. There are people who are naturally able to concentrate and organize themselves well, but if you really want this, you have to work for it. I think a D1 sport is unique (and don't you get benefits from the college as well?) so I wouldn't quit for the sake of pursing IB, but I would reorganize the classes to bump the GPA up and study hard, because you need at least a 3.5 typically to make it into the interview pile. GPA isn't everything but it makes a huge difference.

 

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