I'm somewhat familiar with the hotel school, and I know that it can be difficult to get into IB. However, I know that there's a few to get into IB each year. If you are looking for IB, Dyson is the move.
Hotel has been placing better than Dyson into IB. The alumni connection is much stronger. Students from both do well and get good business backgrounds. Hotel has a misconception of being easier because the curriculum is more rounded and includes courses like business communication. However, the hotel school has grade deflation. Dyson is part of cals so curriculum includes more generals (science, etc.). I would advise choosing by fit seeing as both can take you to IB with ease. They are both under SC Johnson and are heavily targeted. The cultures of the schools do differ greatly.
Lol the hotel school absolutely does not place better than Dyson...both get you where you need to be and outcomes pretty much are dependent on the individual. Clearly you were a hotelie if you’re trying to pitch it as a harder program, they’re both a joke in the broader context of Cornell when you think of engineering / CS / pre-med / math / any hard science. The rebranding for the college of business was essentially solely to help hotelies overcome the initial reaction of non-alum recruiters being like “wtf is this program” (and also something to do with the Johnson MBA ranking calculations)
I'm not trying to pitch it as a harder program. You could say all business schools are jokes in comparison to engineering. I was just mentioning the type of work it entails. Also, the rebranding into the Business school was also for financial reasons. (Havent heard your theory) Cals is public. Hotel has always been private and received high donations which is why some protested the merge. It has some of the wealthiest alum.(If you're from NY, you can get reduced tuition in cals) Obviously any major at Cornell can get into IB. I would prob recommend joining a business club if you are not in johnson. The bus school does focus on job prep but that can easily be replaced through extracurriculars.
Lol someone is obviously jealous they didn't get into the hotel school.... this post is such bs. The truth is that the three business programs at Cornell merged to create a stronger brand and ultimately try to place the MBA program into the top 10; the hotel school was the most resistant to the change because it has the strongest brand / alumni network, so they had the least to gain from this merger.
Dyson and Hotel place pretty similarly into IB but the difference is that Dyson is much smaller and most students go into IB where as Hotel students have a broader interests and only ~30% decide to go into IB (those who decide to pursue IB generally have success in getting in).
I went to Dyson actually. Don’t at all disagree with the placement into IB from the hotel school being strong (and it a smaller proportion of the class given self selection in Dyson + wider interests from Hotelies), but it does not have better placement than Dyson. Broadly speaking if you want to get into IB from Cornell and put in the work (GPA, extracurriculars, recruiting prep), you can do it from any major. I don’t see how there was any improvement to the Dyson brand through the “SC Johnson College of Business” moniker though. I’m not saying the Hotel school didn’t have a strong brand in hospitality / RE finance (it certainly does), but I work at a PE firm with an analyst program and another person from my team asked me why some candidate that applied had majored in “Hotel Management”, which is not a question that gets asked about “Applied Economics & Management”
I never understood this. Why the hell would you go to a "hotel" school just to leave into IB? Hospitality is such a niche industry. Do you do your 2 years in IB and return to hospitality?
Hotel school is more of a business school using hotels as a case study to learn about business so theres a lot of skills you learn that are applicable to finance.
Also, the hotel industry is super capital intensive from the ownership side and generates great returns so its a great play for PE. Cornell has a complete monopoly on the the hotel PE scene, basically all investment teams focusing on hotels are full of cornell hotel school alums. So, you do 2 years IB and then call up one of the alums at BX/Starwood/etc. and get a job on the buyside easily.
Current Cornell student headed to an EB, not in hotel or dyson (history major); therefore my opinion is subjective to my own experience.
I've found that on campus recruiting doesn't really discriminate at all honestly... it isn't like Michigan vs Ross or IU vs Kelley – Cornell as a school in general is a strong pipeline. IB clubs on campus (which would provide a stronger network than even Dyson alone) is best if easy connections are what you are looking for and they take all majors. Even being non-finance and not in an IB/finance club, I've had no shortage of opportunities.
That being said, coursework wise, Hotel does provide a curriculum that is very similar to Dyson. Hotel and Dyson kids tend to have a more pre-professional mindset and intentionally heavily recruit for IB in consequence. You'll find strong alumni networks for Dyson and Hotel but even as someone outside both I've had a lot of access to alumni across all banks who were happy to chat and refer me.
Anyhow, my main point is that in either school you'll benefit. If IB is 100% your sole end goal, I'd say it really doesn't matter – make the right moves and demonstrate your interest, many firms will be happy to talk to you. Everyone I know here who was serious about going into IB landed a spot at a respectable firm, irregardless of majors. Just going to Cornell in general will benefit you well. Good luck!
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I'm somewhat familiar with the hotel school, and I know that it can be difficult to get into IB. However, I know that there's a few to get into IB each year. If you are looking for IB, Dyson is the move.
Hotel students get IB as well, they learn all of the business fundamentals as well. It’s definitely a good place to be.
Hotel students get IB as well, they learn all of the business fundamentals as well. It’s definitely a good place to be.
Hotel students get IB as well, they learn all of the business fundamentals as well. It’s definitely a good place to be.
Hotel places well
hospitality = down the doody chute
Hotel has been placing better than Dyson into IB. The alumni connection is much stronger. Students from both do well and get good business backgrounds. Hotel has a misconception of being easier because the curriculum is more rounded and includes courses like business communication. However, the hotel school has grade deflation. Dyson is part of cals so curriculum includes more generals (science, etc.). I would advise choosing by fit seeing as both can take you to IB with ease. They are both under SC Johnson and are heavily targeted. The cultures of the schools do differ greatly.
Lol the hotel school absolutely does not place better than Dyson...both get you where you need to be and outcomes pretty much are dependent on the individual. Clearly you were a hotelie if you’re trying to pitch it as a harder program, they’re both a joke in the broader context of Cornell when you think of engineering / CS / pre-med / math / any hard science. The rebranding for the college of business was essentially solely to help hotelies overcome the initial reaction of non-alum recruiters being like “wtf is this program” (and also something to do with the Johnson MBA ranking calculations)
I'm not trying to pitch it as a harder program. You could say all business schools are jokes in comparison to engineering. I was just mentioning the type of work it entails. Also, the rebranding into the Business school was also for financial reasons. (Havent heard your theory) Cals is public. Hotel has always been private and received high donations which is why some protested the merge. It has some of the wealthiest alum.(If you're from NY, you can get reduced tuition in cals) Obviously any major at Cornell can get into IB. I would prob recommend joining a business club if you are not in johnson. The bus school does focus on job prep but that can easily be replaced through extracurriculars.
Lol someone is obviously jealous they didn't get into the hotel school.... this post is such bs. The truth is that the three business programs at Cornell merged to create a stronger brand and ultimately try to place the MBA program into the top 10; the hotel school was the most resistant to the change because it has the strongest brand / alumni network, so they had the least to gain from this merger.
Dyson and Hotel place pretty similarly into IB but the difference is that Dyson is much smaller and most students go into IB where as Hotel students have a broader interests and only ~30% decide to go into IB (those who decide to pursue IB generally have success in getting in).
I went to Dyson actually. Don’t at all disagree with the placement into IB from the hotel school being strong (and it a smaller proportion of the class given self selection in Dyson + wider interests from Hotelies), but it does not have better placement than Dyson. Broadly speaking if you want to get into IB from Cornell and put in the work (GPA, extracurriculars, recruiting prep), you can do it from any major. I don’t see how there was any improvement to the Dyson brand through the “SC Johnson College of Business” moniker though. I’m not saying the Hotel school didn’t have a strong brand in hospitality / RE finance (it certainly does), but I work at a PE firm with an analyst program and another person from my team asked me why some candidate that applied had majored in “Hotel Management”, which is not a question that gets asked about “Applied Economics & Management”
LOL dyson is literally in the agriculture school, no one thinks its better than hotel
Hotel is better then Dyson, how is this even a conversation lmao. btw i dont go to either.
I never understood this. Why the hell would you go to a "hotel" school just to leave into IB? Hospitality is such a niche industry. Do you do your 2 years in IB and return to hospitality?
Hotel school is more of a business school using hotels as a case study to learn about business so theres a lot of skills you learn that are applicable to finance.
Also, the hotel industry is super capital intensive from the ownership side and generates great returns so its a great play for PE. Cornell has a complete monopoly on the the hotel PE scene, basically all investment teams focusing on hotels are full of cornell hotel school alums. So, you do 2 years IB and then call up one of the alums at BX/Starwood/etc. and get a job on the buyside easily.
Current Cornell student headed to an EB, not in hotel or dyson (history major); therefore my opinion is subjective to my own experience.
I've found that on campus recruiting doesn't really discriminate at all honestly... it isn't like Michigan vs Ross or IU vs Kelley – Cornell as a school in general is a strong pipeline. IB clubs on campus (which would provide a stronger network than even Dyson alone) is best if easy connections are what you are looking for and they take all majors. Even being non-finance and not in an IB/finance club, I've had no shortage of opportunities.
That being said, coursework wise, Hotel does provide a curriculum that is very similar to Dyson. Hotel and Dyson kids tend to have a more pre-professional mindset and intentionally heavily recruit for IB in consequence. You'll find strong alumni networks for Dyson and Hotel but even as someone outside both I've had a lot of access to alumni across all banks who were happy to chat and refer me.
Anyhow, my main point is that in either school you'll benefit. If IB is 100% your sole end goal, I'd say it really doesn't matter – make the right moves and demonstrate your interest, many firms will be happy to talk to you. Everyone I know here who was serious about going into IB landed a spot at a respectable firm, irregardless of majors. Just going to Cornell in general will benefit you well. Good luck!
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