How much sleep do you need to survive?

I started a Master's in Math: taking 3 MA Math classes and 1 PhD Math class, while doing OCR for investment banking. Also working 2 part-time jobs at the university and in charge of 2 research projects. I realized that the entire month I was having 2-5 hours of sleep on weekdays (homework is too lengthy, still working on my independent studies, preparing for interviews), and usually 7-9 hours on the weekend (sometimes less). I am super tired by Friday, but I could still function on a basic level (not higher level thinking math). Is this comparable to investment banking lifestyle? I just want to check if I could survive in this kind of environment.

 

I try to get at the absolute minimum 4.5 hours of sleep a night. Honestly, getting below 6 regularly can start to have some pretty negative effects on your body. Getting 2-5 hours of sleep during the week will not only hurt your health, but reduce your productivity.

Of course, sometimes you will need to pull all nighters, but for your own health, and especially if you enter IB, please try to get 5 hours of sleep a night at minimum.

 

Thank you so much for advice! I also usually have trouble sleeping because I consume too much caffeine when I work. Do you know what's the best way to achieve at least 5 hours? I tried different herbal supplements as sleep aid but they don't work on me.

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musedeanna:

Thank you so much for advice! I also usually have trouble sleeping because I consume too much caffeine when I work. Do you know what's the best way to achieve at least 5 hours? I tried different herbal supplements as sleep aid but they don't work on me.

Honestly, I just read for about a half hour before bed. I am referring to leisure reading of course. The Game of Thrones series is a solid option that will last you a long time if you haven't already read the books.

After a particularly grueling couple of days in which I was on a demanding project (working from 6a - 3a every day for 3 days straight, I read literally 2 pages of my book to take my mind off of things. Even with those long days, I couldn't find a way to fall asleep because my mind was racing.

You might want to download that app "Buzz" to review your caffeine intake and how much is still residing in your blood stream. This might help you game your caffeine better so that when it is bed time, caffeine is not keeping you up.

Before I start doing my reading every night, I put my mind at ease by getting everything done (shower, brushing teeth, etc), as well as prepping everything I will need for tomorrow. This includes laying out the suit/shirt/pants/dress shoes I will wear the next day at the office in an easily accessible location. I also make sure my briefcase and gym bag has everything I need for the next day.

Not only does this give you an extra 15 in the morning, it also prevents your mind from wandering. I rarely think about what I will need to do in the morning anymore, or have any nagging thoughts like "did I print out that presentation for Client B tomorrow?" because I already have it in a manila folder in my briefcase.

I hope this helps. Reading before bed isn't for everyone, but it is the perfect de-stressor for me.

 

A good work out will make you crash and sweat out the chemicals. That's if you cardio. If you lift, the torn muscle can keep you up, so I would jog/walk/or swim and crash!

"All men are alike in their dreams, and all men are alike in the promises they make. The difference is what they do."— Jean Baptiste Moliere
 

No matter how good your brain normally is, if you over-extend yourself and don't get enough sleep, you'll end up doing many jobs shit, as compared to doing fewer jobs well.

Also, if you think doing all this stuff makes you look like a better interview candidate, that's a misplaced idea. I'd be thinking "over-commits, can't prioritise, poor time management, near-term prospect burn out, lacks the good sense to see any of this. is naive enough to think this shit will impress interviewers, ding".

Those who can, do. Those who can't, post threads about how to do it on WSO.
 

I was not planning on applying for jobs (decided to try OCR literally a month ago), so it was not about the impression for anyone. Usually I have a much more balanced semester, just this semester somehow turned into a non-stop battle. Do Master's grades in Math matter for interviewers? I'd rather start preparing to do OCR next year (learn more about finance, networking, etc.) then worry if I will get a B or A- in my classes. And also you can't really state that I am "naive to see any of this". Otherwise, I would not be asking for advice on here if I did not notice a problem.

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musedeanna:
And also you can't really state that I am "naive to see any of this". Otherwise, I would not be asking for advice on here if I did not notice a problem.

The statement re naivete was in a conditional construction ("if you think... I Would be thinking"),

Those who can, do. Those who can't, post threads about how to do it on WSO.
 

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