How non-target are you?

I know there have been other posts that are somewhat related to this but I wanted to hear about some random schools that my fellow non-target monkeys who broke into the industry went to.


I'll start: University of Vermont - 2.9 GPA

 

Culverhouse Investment Management Group as well as the Investment Banking academy are great. They have sent a surprising amount of kids to (GS, JPM), HL seems to have a a decent amount and even some MM HF’s lately. You can look on the respective club’s website to see placement.

However, I notice a LARGE majority of business/finance majors pursuing real estate or financial planning/advisory.

 

Saw Dak Prescott and Mississippi State play vs. Bama at Bryant-Denny. What an experience

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Almost as good as burrow and trump. What a day (not endorsing any political party)

 

Also went to the zoo and did trading out of undergrad a few years ago. It seems they have decent placement into FO roles now 

 

Were you in MFIF or MEF? It seems like the vast majority of people from Umass who land front office roles were in one of the university funds.

 

Both are good - it doesn't matter too much. I know kids who weren't in any fund and still got placed. It provides networking opportunities more than anything 

 

OP, do you consider the University of Vermont - Honors College to be non target?  I know someone who was super smart in high school but did not get into any of her target schools so that is where she is going.  

 

OP here - not sure if the honors college makes a difference but one thing I will say is that not a lot of business students want to go into financial services so at least you're not competing against a ton of peers from the same school. I'd tell her to rely on the professors because a lot of them have industry expertise. I know for a fact that people get BB offers but idk if it's like 1 per year or 10 per year (I've been out of school for a while). Feel free to DM me and I can mention one professor by name who was instrumental for me.

 

B.S. George Washington University, kinda low GPA at 3.3 though it's good for mechanical engineering. 

MBA T15 and no one cares about GPA. 

You got a 720 - 740 GMAT didn’t you.

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Thanks! Believe it or not, I actually didn't take a test like the GMAT or GRE (I swear this is a respectable MBA program). I actually wrote a letter explaining my readiness for the program and the admissions director ended up calling me in to interview me. I was accepted the following day, so it must have gone well. 

I had good explanations for my GPA, and had a solid resume. Poor grades, but showed that I had been given a ton of increasing responsibility in a short amount of time in my company. I had to obviously work my ass off to overcome my immaturity and lack of focus in undergrad.

 

Notre Dame - 3.9 GPA

Going to UMM/MF PE. just had to grind harder to compete with target kids during recruiting.

 

I think it's a bit complicated. In theory ND, Fordham, BYU are nontargets if we apply the OCR criterion to define target/semi/non, but alum pull way harder for each other at these schools so if you're decent at networking your chances rise compared to a typical non-target. 

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University of Hawaii and started career in San Francisco.  I moved to the Bay Area with three other guys from UH:

- IBD at Merrill (I’m showing my age), now makes bank in Big Tech

- Law School, now a partner in Big Law

- Software Engineer now in Hong Kong in Quantitive Trading 

Subsequent waves of friends/alumni still live or passed through SF and living a good life more or less.  This non-target moniker is only for a select few roles - which fortunately I never felt I was out of the game because of school (real estate industry).  
 

I always thought there’s talent in Hawaii. It’s a place people gravitate to or stay by choice or don’t know the outside.  The place becomes a part of you and shapes your worldview, and you can build (or rebuild) your identity around the place, even if you are not originally from there.

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I do miss it.  But I also know part of my fuzzy feelings are part of my fond memories almost a couple decades ago.  That being a tourist when I visit is different than actually living there.  Case in point, when my wife and I visit people make time to see us, but if we actually lived there, friends will be busy with family stuff and kids’ activities.  The waves/beach, I’d say I bodyboard a lot Freshman and Sophomore, but then worked a lot and interned so that stopped. Fast forward to today, I would absolutely love to teach my young kids to bodyboard and snorkel. San Francisco has fun stuff like Great America and some other things, but miss the beach for sure.  
 

University of Hawaii is a good value, including for out of state, and especially if you’re from a Western State, the school participates in the WUE program, tuition is like $17K (don’t quote me).  If my kids don’t get into an UCLA/Univ of Washington ranked undergrad or above, definitely would encourage them to attend UH and get that Hawaii experience.  
 

Attending Hawaii football games on the road is pretty fun.  That’s what I’ll be thinking about today.

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HULT. GPA 2.77 thanks to moving around a lot or work. Working to pay my tuition off at the moment.

 

University of Wisconsin, 3.0 GPA. No connections to industry. Won't explain how I did it in depth (who cares), but I left no stone unturned and basically just wouldn't take no for an answer. Persistence is key, my friends. 

 

Penn State, 3.6 GPA. Had a great experience and didn't feel like that much of a non-target. Also not part of the Nittany lion fund or anything. 

 

UK Uni in the 60th ranking percentile - 3.8GPA.  

Wanted to work in Wealth Management since 2015 - after getting an interview for a graduate position, the technicals were a breeze.  Really liked the people I'd be working with too.  Applied for c.250 roles, 2 WM interviews and 2 second rounds (accepted offer before other 2nd round).  Good luck!

 

UMass, 3.8 GPA

BB S&T out of undergrad

Lateraled externally to IB

Looking to hop to a L/S fund within the next few years 

 

GED

Work release program for an associates degree

Online Bachelors

WGU MBA

 

So far off target I'm in another zip code.  Small liberal arts school in Florida 3.2 GPA. 

 

OP wtf 2.9 from Vermont. What’s your feel good story about how you impressed the CEO of the Mercantile Exchange while sharing a cab ride to the airport at 21 (this is Gary Cohn’s and he never fucking shut up about it). It’s obviously nowhere near as cool as this since we’re not in the 80s but just curious what the punchline is

 

Didn’t formally graduate HS, skipped first two years of college (was enrolled but didn’t go to class) at a no name Wisconsin state school. Graduated University of MN - 3.6 GPA in finance. Manager Corp fin team few years out of school. Cream rises

 

Just out of curiosity, my SO is about to transfer there. How was their finance program for you?

 

The finance program is not that great, many professors that teach the courses have been retirees of the finance industry, hence, they teach outdated material. However, they offer an investment management certificate (can be done with your Finance major) but it's extra workload. The certificate program prepares you to take CFA exam with the courses and many students get placed in RE, local boutique shops, and MM firms. I personally didn't do this program bc I had offers early on in my undergrad through buying 3rd party courses like this website. 

So my overall opinion, finance program isn't great unless you do the investment management program with it, which is a lot of work but it's well worth it bc you are guaranteed an internship in the higher finance side. Other than that, most finance grads end up in low finance jobs/back office jobs or those who succeed put in the extra effort outside of class. 

 

Northern Arizona University-- I couldn't even make it into ASU. Made up for it with a higher GPA (3.74) and just accepted an offer $20k higher than I expected. Go Jacks

 

I am K-Mart non-Target

But I wish I were Wal-Mart. Because Wal-Mart and K-Mart started in the same year, but K-Mart had external funding and had like a million stores when Wal-Mart had a few dozen. And now Wal-Mart has many many stores and K-Mart is defunct.

But a man can not change his fate. I am K-Mart. Hear me roar.

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