How popular will the Trumps be by the end of this term/presidency?

I'm convinced that Trump and family is much more interesting than the Kardashians. They are also more searched since July on Google than the family of socialites. Bannon just got dropped from the National Security Council, so now I'm wondering whether Trump is smart enough to admit to his own mistakes. This leads me to wonder whether his image will clean up and if he'll be popular by the end of his time in office. Do you think Trump is popular right now in a good way and will his family profit from all of the noise later on?

 

I support everything he's done except for the EPA shit. I'm super pro-environment and pro-health (get rid of corn subsidies, etc.).

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Sometimes when I take a pause and think about it, it's truly insane that Trump is president. The dude is basically a cartoon villain or a walking parody (and I'm not even that liberal).

"now I'm wondering whether Trump is smart enough to admit to his own mistakes"

He's 70 years old and made up some excuse about how Bannon was only on the NSC to supervise Flynn (what?). So no he's not changing.

"This leads me to wonder whether his image will clean up and if he'll be popular by the end of his time in office."

If by popular you mean an approval rating above 50%, I would say there is zero chance of that.

"Do you think Trump is popular right now in a good way and will his family profit from all of the noise later on?"

He is not popular right now, but him and his family will almost certainly profit unless something very bad happens (e.g. impeachment).

 

There is no right or wrong. This is about a functioning government. Furthermore, your posts are shit.

I support trump, yet count how many posts I make fanboying his ass. None. Yet every week you shit out a biased and, oftentimes, clueless post.

He's been President for less than 100 days and your filling the site up with these repetitive posts.

WallStreetOasis.com how about we bring back the political conversation ban of years past?

 
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Let's look at what Trumps dealing with.

1) an economy that has been inflated through financial engineering.

2) the ME is destabilized because of Bush and Obama policies.

3) a worthless congress (both parties)

4) this joke of a "Russia did it" witch hunt

5) organized and paid protestors that basically causes gridlock on a daily basis

6) mainstream news media which has finally unveiled themselves as the propagandists they truly are.

7) We have cities and now states going to war with the federal government over people who are here illegally.

Trumps trying to do whatever he can to bring jobs back to the US to help the people who Democrats used to represent. Trump was trying to work with Russia when it comes to Islamic radicalism. He's trying to fix immigration that both parties have allowed to become a festering wound. He's trying to reverse the myriad of regulations that obama installed.

in conclusions, let this thread devolve into the shit show we all know it will. Trump won and he's President. Congress is now permenatly broken. We have to change rules to approve a SCOTUS judge. The definition of illegal is now so bastardized that American citizens are encouraging people to come here legally. The Democrats have moved from the party of the disadvantaged to the party of the fringe social left wing. Republicans bitched about Obamacare for 8 years and the losers couldn't shit out a decent plan to save their lives.

The USA bombs and kills 100 civilians yet has the Gaul to condemn Russia for supporting Assad for a "gas attack". The hypocrisy is so fucking rich.

 

1.) lol @ inflated economy, Trump says the jobs number is bogus under Obama then takes credit for the same jobs numbers a few months later, fact is the world economy has been recovering for a while now and if the Fed "financially engineered" us out of the recession that's kinda their fucking job. 2.) Mostly Bush, to a certain degree Obama. In any case I await Trump's solutions. 3.) Agreed, but what do you expect when the nation itself has become so partisan everyone is scared to make deals with the other party lest they infuriate their constituents. 4.) I await the results of an investigation handled by all our intelligence agencies who agree that Russia hacked the DNC in order to influence our electorate. 5.) proof? 6.) They're propagandists because you disagree with them? I mean Fox News is part of the mainstream and they are firmly on Trump's side 7.) We need to get a comprehensive reform bill that includes amnesty if you've worked here for a certain amount of years/ have a kid here as well as a path to citizenship. Claiming we'll "get the bad hombres out" isn't a coherent policy.

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1) Federal Reserve is tasked with two things - maximum employment and controlling inflation. They are not tasked with juicing the financial markets.

I fault Obama for not focusing on creating an environment for growth. He layered on tons of new regulations and taxes. He did not drive job growth. Fine, he was a social issues president, but this is a finance forum and I care about jobs. This was not his strong suit.

2) OK.

3) We agree. I think Ryan is a POS for threatening Trump when he said he was going to work with Dems. What I liked about Trump is the fact he isn't a Republican and he just wants to do deals. Since Trump has become Adolf Hiter, I see no Dems willing to work with him on anything. This is just plain sad.

4) Russia didn't hack our elections. Russia, at the most, 'hacked' the DNC emails. The Podesta emails came to Wikileaks which strongly denies getting them from Russia. They say it was an inside source. Either way, there is no way to prove Russia did anything.

But OK. I will await firm evidence showing Russia influenced the election. In reality, Hillary was a shit candidate and her email released showed how corrupt she was. Oh, and the Dems turning their back on blue collar workers, their core base didn't help.

5) There has been countless articles on protesters being bused in, paid by non-profit groups tied to big money Dem donors, online troll groups (CTR) etc.

6) They are propagandists because they misrepresent the truth. Fox is trash, but they are open about being a Republican mouthpiece. All the rest pretend to be news organizations.

7) You cannot have a path to citizenship or allow people who've had anchor babies stay until you stop the flow. If you don't stop the flow of people you'll continually have people clamouring to be amnestied.

And these sanctuary cities are fighting this. If you have cities where people can come illegally, they will come. These people are not citizens, they do not have benefits under the constitution. LA, SF, NYC, Chicago, etc are all uncoorperative with the federal government in doing their job. Immigration is one of the few actual true responsibilities of a federal government.

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https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-66/pdf/STATUTE-66-Pg163.pdf

Good read on the 1952 Immigration powers afforded to the President.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/03/politics/9th-circuit-travel-ban-may-argum…

"Last month, a federal judge in Hawaii indefinitely halted core portions of the Trump's revised travel ban on the grounds that it likely violates the Establishment Clause of the Constitution by disfavoring Muslims."

The new ban does not include the preferential treatment of persecuted Christians. Therefore this judges ruling is biased and legislating from the bench. What some judges are trying to do is infer the intention of the act from trumps past words. This has not been done before and is a dangerous overreach. The judges job is to read the order and see what it says, not opine on what the true meaning is.

The LETTER of the law, not the SPIRIT of the law.

Furthermore, these countries are a lot more than just Muslim. ISIS operates there. They are failed states and do not have the ability to aid and cooperate with the US immigration authorities. But cool, I am glad a mid level judge is jamming up the works with their inference of what trump really wants instead of being a judge and ruling on the actual wording of a Presidential order.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-probing-whether-trump-aides-helped-russ…

Propagada. Look at this shit article.

1) Trump "aids". So now it isn't Trump, but his aids.

2) Despite his denials, investigators believe the operation was authorized by Russian President Vladimir Putin himself and it involved both cyberattacks and information warfare.

Investigators BELIEVE. I believe in Santa. I wan't them to PROVE.

Law enforcement sources say one theory is that Trump associates could have been motivated by money. But sources tell us the FBI wants to get the investigation absolutely right so that the public will trust the result, whatever that turns out to be.

THEORY. Seriously. I have a theory. That is is all bullshit.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/30/politics/senate-intelligence-committee-he…

Now Rubio was hacked by the Russians. Him losing had nothing to do with a mental breakdown during a debate or frankly no one liking him. It was the Russians.

This comical crap just continues. I cannot wait for this "investigation" to be over with.

I wonder is Russia helped Ted Cruz get so much support. I wonder if Russia was the reason Hillary had horrible approval ratings. I wonder is Russia was the one that forced Donna Brazile to give Hillary townhall questions that were supposed to be secret. I wonder if Russia forced Podesta to do all the shit he did. Or force HIllary to refuse to release her Goldman transcripts.

HRC lost because she sucked. Russia, China, Iran, etc, all hack the USA, just as we hack them. This scapegoating and demonizing is unbecoming of this country. It is also driving a wedge between the US and Russia. Furthermore, does Putin not realize that Trump being elected would do nothing if Congress wasn't cooperative? Oh, yeah, that is right. Russia just pulled off the most spectacular triumph in the history of spying and forgot that the President has limited powers.

 
  1. Bush started two wars, Obama extended two wars and started four or arguably five more. Sure he left Iraq but was forced back in there when his "genius" plan was to arm terrorists to fight terrorists and a foreign government that has now forced us to enter a new battle region. So yes while Bush started the modern destabilization, Obama poured gas onto a fire that was already too big and then decided to run away like any pyro who starts a fire that is too big to manage. It fits the Obama narrative in other areas as well.

6) The media is propaganda. That is the very definition of media. There is nothing inherently wrong with that, the problem with the modern media is they act as if they are unbiased and completely uncorruptible. The problem is that they obviously push narratives that have extremely unbalanced political origins. It has nothing to do with me disagreeing with them, it has everything to do with how their reporting is done.

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People will call me biased but I think his presidency, other than deregulation, has been a disaster thus far. You have false claims of wire-tapping where he is actually bringing in acting congressmen to attempt to validate his lie (he just said Susan Rice committed illegal acts related to this with no proof), constant turmoil within his administration (Flynn's departure, Bannon's status etc.), the FBI investigation on his administration's ties to Russia who he continues to deny hacked the DNC, his immigration order being owned by the courts using his very own words regarding banning Muslims, him pushing an absolutely awful healthcare bill with something like 17% approval according to quinnipiac just for a political win and to look like "the ultimate dealmaker" then blaming the freedom caucus for its failure over twitter. Idk if I covered it all but ultimately he won't change: he won't admit mistakes, he won't stop using twitter to push lies and attack people like some sort of troll, he's shown little to no willingness to get down to the nitty gritty of policy making, and he seems to be more concerned with photo-ops than anything else. In short, I believe his approval rating should be even lower.

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Agreed it's been an unmitigated disaster. Like let's say for the sake of argument that politically speaking, I agree with Trump 100%. OK, now what? He has essentially no meaningful achievements, and a bunch of fuck ups, many of which are self-created. It's no wonder that many who voted for him now regret their votes.

 

Trump said Rice MAY have committed a crime. MAY have.

Gotta love it. No amount of proof will ever make you happy. You have senior Obama officials monitoring Trumps campaign and team, asking for people to be unmasked so often that it raises suspicion and you think nothing of it. You have a sitting President campaigning against another candidate and no one cares.

The immigration order is being held up by judged legislating from the bench. It is absolutely clear the President can ban immigration as he sees fit. The first order was held up only because it included Green card holders. The revised order will absolutely stand. Love how you blame Trump, yet fail to see judges overstepping their bounds.

BTW - He isn't banning muslims. He is banning people from failed states. But continue to use incorrect words to convey your bias.

The investigation will find nothing. Dems are already walking back expectations.

Trump said he would sign a repeal of Obamacare. Ryan put a shit bill and Trump still tried to get it done. Yet we blame Trump. Cool. You do realize the President signs what Congress creates and approved?

And yes, he should blame them. Just as Obama blamed Tea Party Republicans. Love how you fault Trump for rightly calling out radicals in his own party. I find it refreshing.

Arguing with you is pointless because you have no interest in facts or how things work. The powers of the president are clear, yet you cheer the judicial branch overstepping. You blame Trump, yet it is Ryan that crafted the piece of shit. You keep bringing up this Russia shit when every day it becomes more clear that Trump had nothing to do with them and their 'hacking' (as you so inappropriately use the word) is nothing but a ruse.

 

He said that based on what? Still won't provide any proof, is it a coincidence that the day (days?) after Comey admitted the FBI is investigating his administration he accuses Obama of performing surveillance on him and compared it to Watergate? Come the fuck on am I supposed to be an idiot? The dude made false allegations to distract from Comey's testimony. What monitoring are you referring to? It's been made pretty clear this was incidental surveillance that happened during spying on FOREIGN officials. They noticed that Trump's campaign team was involved with calls with FOREIGN officials and Rice being the head of the NSC she wanted to find out who these members of his campaign team were, turns out she had good reason to be concerned as Flynn was doing shit like taking payments from Turkey as a lobbyist, not disclosing it, and advising a future president, which is illegal. I am almost positive he won't be the last Trump aide to lose his/ her position over the Russia situation. We now have Manafort, Flynn, and Carter Page with concrete Russian ties. All advisers of his campaign and Flynn got an official position in the administration.

The immigration order is being held up because of Trump's own comments on the campaign trail regarding a Muslim ban. Trump is contending he is just banning failed states but those suing him say it is a Muslim ban because he said he would ban Muslims on the campaign trail and he banned Muslim majority countries in this ban (especially if you interpret the original Christian exception as showing his intent regardless of future iterations of the law). The judges are saying his statements preclude his actions and the "failed state" shit is just an excuse. Fact is had he not made such statements on the trail it would be much harder to block his ban. If you believe it is an overreach then cool, still a self-inflicted wound from one of his many idiotic campaign statements.

Walking back? Joaquin Castro just said he believes multiple Trump officials will go to jail over the Russia situation. The FBI doesn't launch an investigation on sitting presidents lightly, I have almost no doubt they already have some evidence in hand implicating Trump's aides at the very least. We will see how this plays out.

Why the fuck shouldn't I blame Trump for pushing a shit bill just to "get it done". That is not how you run a government. I am not faulting him for the bill itself, just his promotion and support of it. He is the president and instead of telling congress this bill is shit and we need to reevaluate he tried to force them to take a vote and promoted it as if he loved the bill. This is called being a shit executive. I take umbrage to a sitting president calling out individual members of his own party over twitter like a child. Additionally, why would he blame them? He should be praising them from saving him from signing that garbage that was AHCA. Fact is he didn't give a fuck about the contents of the bill he just wanted a "political win" never mind the consequences.

Facts are dead to you bro. You are a Trump sycophant. You are skeptical of politicians except Trump even though Trump consistently lies and doubles down on said lie. BTW, Wikileaks has ties to Russia so that whole "Podesta's emails came from wikileaks and it was an inside job (with nothing supporting this)" is bullshit. This is all I have to say on Trump's approval.

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