How to prepare for summer 2018 internship recruiting season

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Hi, I currently am a Junior at a semi-target University with a cumulative 3.4 GPA and a 3.7 major GPA. I am majoring in international relations and minoring in Economics. Last summer I interned at small portfolio manager and this summer I am interning at a Hedge Fund in NYC. AM is something that really interests me and recently I have also been thinking about applying to some banking internships as well for next summer.

What draws me to AM is the ability to contribute to active investing decisions with research, analytical skills, and being able to look at the larger picture. Studying international relations, looking at a large playing field and seeing how world events impact the global landscape is something I find interesting. I could be wrong, but this is how I view what AM is like. Does AM sound like a good fit for me if these are the types of things I am looking for?

I am a little lost in terms of how to prepare for recruiting season as I am not in the business school at my University. Should I prepare for AM interviews as if I were applying for a banking internship? I have already bought the WSO guide to ib interviews and I am taking an online Excel course for beginners to boost my skills.

I have taken few business classes at my university, but I have learned most of what I know from my previous internship and doing investing on my own. I am a little nervous about finding an internship for next summer as I also will be studying abroad in the fall. Any advice or guidance for things I should be doing to prepare for an internship in AM at this point in my education will be greatly appreciated.

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Jun 30,2017

Read the WSJ and markets news on the daily, you should be able to talk about trends in the economy and how they affect different sectors.
Know basic financial statements and ratios, and network hard before you go abroad.

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Jul 31,2017

A little late, but I'm kind of in the same boat as you. Economics and Biology major at Semi-Target going abroad in the Spring, and very interested in AM. From my understanding it would be a good fit, as I've been investing myself forever. I've been trying to network aggressively this summer but its tough sometimes when you are not getting responses. I enrolled in 2 classes on Coursera (Financial Accounting/corporate finance at Wharton) and they have definitely been helping get some of the technical stuff down. What I've been told is that the interviews are tailored to what you know to some extent; it wont be all questions regarding financial statements if they can clearly see you don't have as much experience with that kind of stuff.

Good luck its gonna be a long journey to that SA position!

 
 
Jul 31,2017

BIWS, create a stock pitch, practice ib interview questions, mock interviews, and network. That's what I'm doing and I'm in the same boat as you.

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Jul 31,2017

I'm planning on completing courses from Wall Street Prep and Pillars of Wall Street as they're the only two I got free access to from going to some workshops, but I'm also looking at books to read up or practice from for valuation, modeling and interviews and also just the industry in general. I'm wondering if it would be worth it to purchase the networking guides that are up on BIWS/M&I/WSO.

 
Jul 31,2017

For networking, just read the free guides on M&I and use search bar on WSO. I'd get the interview packages from WSO though.

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Jul 31,2017

Wow. You are really early, but that's great. I would think it's going to be very hard, if not impossible to get a finance internship as a Freshman, unless you are connected. There are a few opportunities in special programs as a Sophomore, but the big one is your Junior year internship. For prep, I'd generally read the Vault guide and/or the Wall Street Oasis guides. Joining a Finance club and taking finance courses as soon as possible will also help. I'd also go to the events on campus and talk to people who are recruiting. Get cards from them, thank them for any advice they gave you, and reach out periodically to let them know what you're doing.

 
Jul 31,2017

@justcurious456 I have some good connections at bb's right now since I went to info-sessions, and shadowed them during breaks. I'm going to let them know when I submit my application this fall. But, out of curiosity, can those people like basically pull my name from the resume pile, and get me an interview?

 
Jul 31,2017

Yes, they determine a good amount of input for the selection process since they are most involved.

 
Jul 31,2017

Is it better to nurture analyst connections or those higher up like an MD? Because I heard that analysts are the ones who choose resumes and interviews.

 
Jul 31,2017

Analysts will relate to your experiences more, but usually leave before associate, so they are less likely to be there by the time decisions are made. If you have common background or connection with Associates or VPs it would be a better bet.

 
Jul 31,2017

What should I tell the connections once I submit my application in the fall? And do they give me hints/imply that they will pull my resume, assuming they really like me?

 
Jul 31,2017

Yes, but not this year/next year unless you qualify for sophomore diversity programs. If those people are still around your junior year they will be very helpful.

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Jul 31,2017

Yes, take this time to network and meet as many people as you can.

 
 
Jul 31,2017

Eh I'm kinda on the fence about putting "excel and powerpoint" on there. That really is way too broad and just about anyone can learn it. Put something financial modeling related instead if it is applicable to you and you have some experience with it.

 
Jul 31,2017

Agreed, it is definitely fluff. I don't know a ton about modeling though, so I didn't want to put that down as it may open myself up to too many technical questions. Should I just take out the Excel/PowerPoint and leave the basic coding?

 
Jul 31,2017

I'll be at Cornell next year, let's ball up.

Also resume looks solid.

 
Jul 31,2017

Bump, anything else I should edit/change/fix?

 
Jul 31,2017

One last bump, there's gotta be other comments on it

 
Jul 31,2017

Unless you can tell me what my favorite Excel shortcut does, whether it be a simple Alt EST or a curveball Ctrl tilde, I would not put Excel on your resume. Same for PowerPoint.

LinkedIn doesn't matter get rid of it.

Make the font Times New Roman. This is Wall St, not Madison Ave. Fit in.

Make the font smaller. Print this thing out and you'll be amazed how huge the text is.

Add another bullet point under each thing to extend this all.

The best advice is to start over and don't use a template.

 
Jul 31,2017

Also, you have a hyphen in one date and an en dash in another.

 
 
Jul 31,2017

Do all of that, just bump the beers and listening to Views up on your list and you're fine.

 
Jul 31,2017

Beginning to network? Bud, you need to start NOW. If you start in the summer, you're already a step behind.

 
Jul 31,2017

You're on the right track. I'd agree with Sil that it never hurts to begin networking earlier. However, I'd recommend you nail the important interview questions/guides before your initial calls with network contacts. This means you need to have your story/life pitch perfected and within 60-90 seconds, know how to build a DCF, and memorize basic accounting questions (e.g. depreciation flowing through the three financial statements). Those "5-10 minute chats" can easily become 5-10 minute technical sessions and you'll want to be prepared.

Also, TLOP > Views.

 
Jul 31,2017

I don't agree with this. I've never had people I reached out to quiz me on technical questions. That's the domain of your actual interviews. If you're constantly worried about your technical knowledge while networking, you'll be less willing to reach out to as many people as possible.

 
Jul 31,2017

Try to work on continuing to "rise", "rising" is key... Maybe one day you can add "Rising Incoming Investment Banking Analyst" to your linked in

 
Jul 31,2017
 
Jul 31,2017

Only thing I'll add is to expand your networking efforts beyond BBs if you truly want to do IB.

MM IB -> TMT Corporate Development

 
Jul 31,2017

Ha. I would like to see you actually "complete" all of those WSP courses.

 
Jul 31,2017
 
Jul 31,2017

Five steps to a good summer:

1.) Eat oysters and lobster
2.) Drink seasonal beers
3.) Fuck shit up
4.) ???
5.) Profit

 
Jul 31,2017

Just one tiny tweak:

-Interning at a boutique P/E firm
-Completing WSP courses (Excel, Financial Statement, DCF, LBO, and M&A Modeling)
-Beginning to Network
-Studying interview questions/answers
-Drink 100 beers for every WSP course completed, networking lunch attended, and interview question studied

 
Jul 31,2017

Insofar as networking goes, I'd develop a system. I found it helpful to have a spreadsheet with contacts for 4-5 people in every firm I wanted to meet someone - go to linked in, figure out names, put into proper format, etc. Then start cold emailing people until you've spoken to at least a couple of people in each target company.

Also, I'll second SECFinance in expanding beyond BB. This has been a tough year for BBs... people are getting fired, bonuses came in low, C-suite keep talking about downsizing in media... I'm not saying BBs aren't good places, but simply that they aren't what they used to be, and are closer to a dying breed than rising enterprises. I don't want to make this into a rant about the BB-or-Bust mentality - just giving you honest advice: when you pull a couple of 100s in a row, patting yourself in the back for being in a BB won't feel all that great if you're working on bad deal flow (like a few people I know).

 
Jul 31,2017

During my junior summer, I set up networking calls as much as possible. You should get on setting those up now. I also scheduled out reading the Rosenbaum & Pearl book twice during my summer, that definitely helped.

Also, TLOP > Views

 
Jul 31,2017

You need to chill out. Don't spend your summers inside on Excel learning lbo models which you'll learn on the job anyway. Go have some fun. By all means try and meet some people in the industry over beers or coffee, but your list sounds like an awful way to do summer. Stop worrying so much.

 
 
Jul 31,2017

I'm in the same boat as you - except I don't have any IBD internship experience.

If you haven't already I would suggest volunteering for your local CFA chapter society. Whether or not you're interested in completing the CFA, it's a great experience for volunteering and I feel as if not enough students do this. I've volunteered at numerous events and I've had great success with expanding my network in all industries (HF/PE/IBD/ S&T etc.) and building relationships that will hopefully offer some sort of a return in the long run.

 
Jul 31,2017

Definitely something I'll be looking into now! Thanks for the advice!

-JP

 
 
Jul 31,2017

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