How well is UNC viewed/represented on Wall St?
Hey, new poster here. This may sound strange but I recently transferred to UNC from Duke (number of personal reasons). Just from browsing around on here, I know most people would probably say I made a huge mistake transferring down from a target school, especially with today's markets. Regardless, I'd like to know how well is UNC, more particularly Kenan Flagler's undergrad program, represented on Wall St? I tried searches, but couldn't find much (mostly cause the search engine doesn't let you search words/phrases that are 3 characters or less). Thanks everybody.
Start with alumni. Go to the b-school, find a list, see for yourself. Start calling them now. Set up informational interviews.
UNC has an adequate reputation but you'll have to lobby hard to get noticed in these conditions. If you're applying for a full-time position, start hitting your alumni network heavily this summer. Send alumni an email along the lines of:
"Dear Alumni X, My name is Metalasian, and I am a rising senior at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. I found your name on the alumni database of alumni on Wall Street. I am interested in X and was hoping to talk to you about your experience at Y. Thanks for the consideration. Kind Regards, Metalasian."
Brevity and candor go a long way on Wall Street.
Good luck!
DeltaHedged www.deltahedged.com
"Since love and fear can hardly exist together, if we must choose between them, it is far safer to be feared than loved." - Niccolo Machiavelli
Well enough. If you are really having problems, contact Julian Peterson.
It's one of the more highly represented state schools in banking. Just go to Brother Jimmy's in UES, and you'll them everywhere.
Represented in the Middle Market Firms.
I already know that I'll be needing to network, I've already compiled a database of alumni to contact. Thanks for the responses, although I'm still not particularly clear on how well UNC is represented/placed in BB's. Is it on par (or maybe a tad below) with Michigan and Virginia?
US news ranks Kenan-Flagler's undergrad program top 5. I think its fair to say its on par with Michigan and UVA (the undergraduate business program is ranked above UVA's).
This link is their employment stats for the class of 2007, a good amount go to NY, I'd say the reason that # isn't bigger is because a lot of the kids are from UNC and prefer to stay closer to home (lots go to Charlotte, ATL, ect.)
No...just...no
http://www.kenan-flagler.unc.edu/Programs/BSBA/careerServices/placement…
errr....personally....i would never use a US News Ranking/Businessweek/any such sort of ranking thing of any nature unless it was given directly to me by an industry insider.
That said, UNC is one of the better-represented state schools, not on par with UVA/UMich/Berkeley tho in rep for recruiting.
just to throw it out there: some really famous dudes went to UNC, including julian robertson (tiger management) and many of his proteges like lee ainsley...
on the US news thing, that was my first time posting on an industry specific board like this one, a US News ranking has nothing to do with how well a school is recruited for IB/ect.
That being said, most (if not all) of the BB's and many smaller botiques recruit UNC (though probably not to the degree they recruit the Ivy's/Duke etc.); it seems to be mostly targeted towards Kenan-Flagler Students, but I know an econ Major who got SA at UBS (and I think a full time offer at GS).
Anyway, my point is that if you want to go to Wall Street you will have a very good opportunity coming out of UNC especially the B-School.
(If you haven't guessed by now I go there too)
i've been wondering the same thing for awhile. I'm a rising junior in Kenan-Flagler and I know banks recruit here but I just don't know how extensively UNC is represented/viewed at BBs. All of my friends in IB are at BofA, Wachovia, SunTrust, etc. Is it possible coming from UNC, more specifically Kenan-Flagler, to get on at BBs?
I am sort of in the same boat as the other people commenting on this thread, I am technically a rising senior, but I am going to be starting the BSBA program at Kenan-Flagler in the fall and therefore have 3 semesters left. Currently I am interning for a sports team in the accounting department, needless to say this department has crushed my soul, the only redeeming factor is being able to go to the games. I guess my question is how realistic would it be for me to get an I-banking internship next summer or a I-banking/consulting job after I graduate, especially given the state of the economy, or would it be better to actively pursue moving to another department with in the sports team I am at now?
UNC Computer Science and Investment Banking (Originally Posted: 07/23/2013)
Hi All,
I am an incoming freshman heading into UNC-Chapel Hill. I am a prospective Computer Science major because I really like it and know that it is a very useful major. I do want the option of interning at IB-type places. To have a good chance to get IB-type internships, will it be imperative that I do a double major in Finance? Or, can I minor in Business or in another Mathematics-related major and still have a good shot? Just to give some background, I have a lot of AP credit and could double major in Finance and Computer Science, but I imagine that would be really tough and make academics tough.
Thanks in advance.
Personally, I don't think that CS will really help you unless you move to S&T. To be honest, you might want to choose which direction you would like to head down. Granted, your CS knowledge might be a value add but it will probably be minimal in regards to your daily work.
It all boils down to what you enjoy more. I was a finance major but did not decide on that until I was a sophomore. You have time, but don't make it a last second decision when you've gone through all of your CS coursework.
Good luck.
You can break in with Computer Science. Minor in Business/Finance if you want and be sure to read a lot of outside material on the subject whenever you get the chance. As long as you have a great GPA and a demonstrated interest, your major typically doesn't matter.
Myself, I will be majoring in Finance and pursuing minors in Economics and Computer Science (AP credits took care of my gen eds so I can double minor)
Thanks for your feedback, would you say that it would make sense to do a finance-related internship sooner rather than later to show an interest in the field?
I would say follow your passion, but getting into K-F will probably make things easier on you. Maybe do Finance major, Comp Sci minor as a compromise.
Chapel Hill is an awesome place. Don't waste all your time studying.
I don't want to be studying all the time and honestly don't want to overwork myself in terms of coursework (the mistake I made in high school). Just a question, would it make sense to get a CompSci major and a Finance minor or would that not help me?
Just do what I'm doing. Major in Finance and minor in Comp Sci. That way you don't have to take all of the Comp Sci classes unrelated to Finance (Operating Systems, Computer Architecture/Hardware, etc.), but you can still take relevant classes like Algorithms and Object Oriented Programming.
Comp Sci minor's also obviously less work than the major since less engineering/maths courses.
Regarding a possible internship, it's always better to do it sooner rather than later. But what I meant was, for example, if you're on the phone with some guy you met from networking, apply knowledge and info that you picked up on in books to sound knowledgeable. That's demonstrated interest.
I get what you're saying. Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it.
LOL minor in Economics at UNC?
I don't go to UNC. And the Economics minor is only one additional class to the Finance major requirements at my school.
Makes more sense. There is no econ minor at UNC. To OP, major in what you want. Breaking into IBD doesn't require a specific major. KF network would be nice, so perhaps a minor.
UNC career services is pretty good, especially in terms of IBD; many of the BBs and a ton of boutique/local shops. Career services is also awesome because essentially all job postings are available for all majors; a few will be reserved for KF kids but IB and s&t will not. So I don't think the network is that much more useful for the kf kid on the margin.
Study what you want, but be proactive on extracurriculars to show interest. Tons of IBD competitions you'll find online, trading competitions, etc. At the end of the day, coming from a non-traditional academic background with a demonstrated interest in the field is much more useful than traditional business study; it makes you stand out
It's definitely important to find out whether IBD job postings on OCR are available to non-finance majors. At some schools anyone can apply, but at others you have to be part of the business schools to even drop your resume. It's infinitely easier to go through OCR because the process is already completely structured and it might be worth doing a finance major just for that.
Hi, congrats on getting into UNC. I think the minor in business would be a good idea. As stated on the KF website "Business minors receive all of the benefits as business majors (alumni network, access to our global program opportunities and our career development initiatives, etc.), are highly sought after by recruiters, and achieve the same employment placement rates as business majors"
UNC recruitment (Originally Posted: 05/23/2015)
Hey I was wondering how undergrad IB recruitment is at UNC-chapel hill.
I would imagine the bulk is at Wells Fargo and Bank of America IB for Charlotte. But I'm scared since I've heard BofA might be returning to NYC which would probably kill recruitment.
Anyone that goes their able to tell me what firms recruit or at least anyone on the street able to say what firms they've seen people at?
Is IB even possible their?
Thanks a lot
G
What are you scared of, that there won't be banks grovelling at your feet to go work for them? Besides the fact that there are plenty of opportunities at UNC, if you bust your ass with networking you can make it anywhere.
Pretty sure BofA has already moved most of the IBD teams out of Charlotte, they were wrapping up the move a couple of summers ago.
Crashing UNC-Chapel Hill's (Among Others) Info Session (Originally Posted: 08/06/2014)
So, I'm interested in pursuing Commercial Banking after I graduate. My school is a non-target and had practically 0 banking information sessions. I am strongly considering crashing other school's BB info sessions, just so I can get myself in front of someone. I'm really just looking for some advice on crashing other school's info sessions. Did you have to get someone's ID? How did you explain that you weren't from X school without someone giving you away that overheard you talking? etc. Specifically, the main reason I'm posting is to see if anyone has any info/details on Chapel Hill's info sessions/career fair (whether or not you busted in or actually went there). I am located in the NC, and they are by far the most heavily recruited school for finance in the area.
It's not my experience or grades that I'm worried about because I have both. I'm just paranoid that if I don't actually get a chance to stand in front of someone that no one will ever look at my resume and see that I am pretty well qualified. Thanks in advance!
did you forget about Duke?
you've got balls, I wouldn't do this, I wouldn't want my first impression with an interviewer to be deceit.
A fair number of info sessions were invite only, required you to RSVP via the OCR website or otherwise wouldn't be conducive to this strategy. I can't recall but I think at our career fair we had to scan in. Plus you may have to scan into Smith Warehouse or Fuqua after hours.
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