How well is Voleon regarded?

I recently learned of Voleon in Berkeley. They were created by 2 ex DE Shaw guys around 2009 ish I believe. 

Not much info is available on them. How well are they regarded? Are they in the tier 1 list of shops like 2S, Cit, HRT, JS, Shaw, etc.... or more so in tier 2 with shops like Akuna, Squarepoint, etc..? 

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Aug 27, 2021 - 11:22pm

 they scooped up every post-doc in America to try and copy rentech with a focus on "machine learning" for severe underperformance and drop in AUM

so no

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Aug 28, 2021 - 12:59pm

they did okayish around 2016, but they're trying to raise assets ASAP by convincing investors of ML, which tells you something

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Aug 28, 2021 - 12:45pm

From what I've heard they have never been above sharpe 1, and AUM is now in the low hundred millions.

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Aug 28, 2021 - 4:18pm

My understanding is that they have two funds - the one they primarily market to institutional investors (this is still large I believe, like $5Bn - again anecdotal, but I heard most of the capital is from foreign sources and is very sticky), and then the smaller fund which is where I heard most of the capital decline was. I believe this smaller one has only ~300MM in it now.

Again this is all word of mouth.

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Aug 28, 2021 - 5:31pm

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From what I've heard they have never been above sharpe 1, and AUM is now in the low hundred millions.

I'm new to finance and have a vague understanding of finance, but have a somewhat basic understanding of sharpe ratio. 

Where do the other team stand in type of what sharpe ratios they've hit? 

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