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Jul 24, 2018 - 12:46pm

I dislike interns who are obsequious and do not understand boundaries. Yes, it is important to demonstrate a good attitude and try to establish a working relationship. No, it is not necessary to try to forcefully and awkwardly bond with me during your few weeks here. This includes straining to engage me in conversation when I clearly don't want to converse, and just generally trying too hard. We will not build a meaningful personal relationship in your limited time here getting up to speed. But, if you're one of these try-hards, you will leave me with a bad taste in my mouth due to your surprising lack of self-awareness, and I will not be your fan when it's roundtable time.

 
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Jul 24, 2018 - 1:05pm

...ask me a question, then interrupt me as soon as they think they know the answer so they can show me that they know.

I really enjoy the teaching and mentorship part of the job. I like it when people come to me with questions, and they leave my office slightly more capable than when they entered it. I am not, as a rule, impressed with your knowledge base, and I don't expect to be. I really, really don't like being interrupted, especially when I'm taking the time to answer a question that you asked me.

Ask, listen, learn, say thanks.

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Jul 24, 2018 - 1:16pm

Just a weird/logistical question... do some interns actually type your info. into their phones while you give it to them? Or do just expect/assume they'll write it down later? Just wondering if it's weird for intern to be walking around with notebook/typing into phone while talking to you. It makes sense to do so... just wondering if some actually write down the info. while you're dispensing it.

 
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Jul 24, 2018 - 1:33pm

... Treat me like the fucking search feature on Google.

"I'm at a loss, he was part of that whole Yale thing... Well, I think, for one, that he was probably a closet homosexual who did a lot of cocaine... You know, that Yale thing."
 
Jul 24, 2018 - 9:55pm

Today there was a meeting with our director to review a deck that was put together by one of the analysts. There was a spelling/syntax mistake that I saw but I wasn't going to point that out in front of the director. Just made a note to let him know after the meeting ... until our team's intern decided to point it out in front of everyone. The director didn't take too kindly to it either, because on the next slide he asked the intern "hey, you want to use your HP 12C to double check the math?" which got some laughs from the room.

Interns: don't throw your peers under the bus

 
Jul 24, 2018 - 11:07pm

watch the world cup without me.. jk my interns are awesome haven't had any issues..

What concert costs 45 cents? 50 Cent feat. Nickelback.
 
Jul 24, 2018 - 11:14pm

exist

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

 
Jul 27, 2018 - 12:35pm

Thanks for the info, chief. Maybe I should have clarified that I meant primarily using the mouse to navigate Excel. Maybe that should be a given. Maybe being clear and precise in a not serious thread on WSO isn't everyone's top priority.

Thanks, let me know if you ever need an introduction in the industry.
 
Aug 2, 2018 - 12:36am

Definitely for chart formatting menu / quick switching tabs.. there are other good examples of course. But there was another intern at my firm that was using the mouse to select ranges / arrays, right clicking with the mouse, even clicking copy and paste and all the paste specials (which he barely knew about). I don't think he knew where the alt key was or had a quick ribbon. It was painful to watch. His technical skills were absolute ass overall even in week 9

 
Jul 25, 2018 - 4:46am

...Over promise and under deliver.

Don't "Excessively" stack your to-do list so high that you begin faltering on your deliverables and pushing other people's deadlines. Understand what a human can accomplish in 24 hours, and staff yourself accordingly. You will be better off at the end of your internship with a small group of people in the office thinking you were instrumental to their team, as opposed to everyone thinking you were overstretched and underperforming.

"A man can convince anyone he's somebody else, but never himself."
 
Jul 25, 2018 - 7:13am

Aren't professional.

I'm mentoring a few interns and wanted to meet with them to go over their ideas for one of their intern challenges, asked the leader to set up a meeting with everyone. I'm expecting a normal meeting, in a meeting room (who would've thought eh?), this hippie goes and decides that we should have it on the small grass area in front of the HQ - Why on Earth would that be a good idea?

Had the 'xoxo' sign off from one.

And the crème de la crème, one had a small task to do and in the email wrote "I think it's a bit rubbish, but will it do?" ............ are you serious?
No it wasn't an important task at all but you're an intern and that's a terrible attitude, why would you ever think submitting something you think is rubbish is a good idea?

 
Jul 28, 2018 - 8:52am

Eh, I actually appreciate this and generally tell the interns to do it. No reason they need to be here all night just because I am, but they do need to be willing to help out and not leave if we need them. 9 times out of 10 I'll tell them to go home. But occasionally it'll occur to me it'll help me out when they come and ask.

 
Jul 25, 2018 - 10:03am

Explain shit to other interns that I just explained to them when I know they haven't fully understood it or practiced enough. Hate that. I would love it if interns could help each other and teach each other because it makes my life easier and makes them learn better but they can ONLY do that when they have proven they have fully understood it. More often then not they 'teach' something 3-4 hours after having heard it for the first time and not having fully understood it.

 
Jul 25, 2018 - 3:11pm

1 - who try to argue the point when I tell them that something is their job, not something for them to try to delegate back to me. I learned how to pull equity research before you were born, I know how, so the whole point of the exercise is for you to learn the skill.
2 - who think that they know how to do my job because "I looked on Google and didn't find it"
3 - who think they're somehow helping me out by mentioning the sources in the report they're looking for an update on, which they've conveniently attached to the email. Yes, I know how to read the sources cited, but thanks!

 
Jul 25, 2018 - 3:17pm

Try to hard to get "in" with the Analysts that have the most sway in the office or seem like the popular guys, while simultaneously being relatively dickish to the people they don't think they have to impress (like their other interns or Karen from the Leasing department).

We don't currently have an intern like this, but there was a candidate who got dinged for it during our post-superday dinner/cocktail hour. I know that no one realllly wants to talk to Karen the Head of Leasing about her role in the company, and frankly neither do I, but pretending to be interested shows you're a courteous guy and well polished.

 
Jul 27, 2018 - 2:10am
  • Aren't performing great, but don't live in the office trying to perform better
  • Pretend they understand basic concepts only to ask stupid questions later when talking about stuff building on those concepts
  • Require substantial amounts of time investment with little to no real tangible output
  • Don't retain information (telling them the same thing over and over again)
  • Aren't aware enough to understand how to do well at the job yet still aren't smart enough to just ask
 
Jul 27, 2018 - 7:58am

At networking events, cornering senior bankers and trying to force extended conversation. In a 2 hour session, you should not expect nor try for hour long conversations with any single person. You’re also missing the point, which is to meet a broader group of people.

 
Jul 27, 2018 - 2:16pm

Don't own their actions, can't say please/thank you.

The best are the ones that react like they are peeking in from a parallel universe through a hole in space-time when mistakes get pointed out.
I'm not advocating "crawl and beg for mercy" but in the same time some degree of "oh yea my bad" wouldn't kill you.
Lately I have seen this go hand in hand with a level of entitlement. It's all that Instagram culture I tell ya'. pulls out a can of LaCroix

 
Jul 28, 2018 - 4:33am

Couldn’t help but chime in on this one because interns and grad rotation people the past couple of months are hurting our desk.

Very basic- interrupting me or colleagues near to my desk with basic questions that can be answered via google or investopedia. Conveys nothing but laziness and lack of initiative. My pet hate. We have some bright quant people this summer but they are one trick ponies - have no clue how to source quality info or self learn at all. Also hipster quants eating porridge at 10am and taking 15mins to brew their fancy tea.

Patience exercise at the moment.

TG
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