I have a 2.4/760, with good work experience is M7 or T10 achievable?
Hi everyone I'm a second year law student at a decent school. I have a 3.75 in law school and I had a 2.4 in undergrad and I went to law school immediately after undergrad.
I probably have the ability to get a JD/MBA right now at a top 25 or so school (Emory/IU/Minnesota/UNC/GT/ND) in coordination with my JD program.
I'm wondering if I should wait to try and get an MBA 3 years after graduation or try to get a JD/MBA immediately. If I can go to an elite b-school later, I'll wait but if it's not likely I'll probably try and go now. If I wait, I'll probably work in big-law or corporate development (very good chance I'll have offers at both) for 3 years and then apply.
what type of undergrad (top 10, top 25, etc) and what major?
I went to a very average state school. I majored in Political Science and Management.
there are people better qualified to answer this (Betsy Massar MBAApply ), but my initial thought is without a legitimate reason for the 2.75 (in a non stem major at an average school), it will be tough to overcome despite the 760 at M7
You would need stellar work experience (being a corporate lawyer wouldn't qualify).
M7 would be hard (or impossible for that matter) to break in with that profile.
Anyway the JD gpa would offset the undergrad gpa? I know masters programs tend to be easier than undergrad to get grades, but law school might be looked at a little bit different I'd presume.
Undergrad GPA is used for rankings. Masters gpas aren't and thus carry little weight.
Oh dear. Are MBA's at all that worth it? I'm having trouble justifying paying an extra 80-100k in tuition +160k or so in lost salary to have the same recruiting benefits.
Is it something necessary in the long run, if I don't intend on being a lawyer long term?
Depends on your goal. If you're asking this question, I'd be more concerned over whether the law degree was worth it.
Necessary for what?
Here is the answer:
IF all of that is done properly, you DO have a shot at the top 9 (I say Top 9 because everyone agrees on the top 9 schools, even if they bicker about the order; there is a LOT of debate about which of a handful of schools fills out the Top 10, so I reject the idea of a Top 10).
If you don't do everything right, your odds are ZERO. Even doing everything right, your odds would still be WELL below the average 720 GMAT and 3.5 GPA and 4 yrs WE candidate for the M7.
But:
A sample of possible outcomes (assuming you ace execution): - Apply to Wharton, Kellogg, Columbia ED, NYU. Rejected at all, interviewed with NYU, put on Waitlist. 30-35% Probability. - Apply Early Decision to Columbia, Booth, Wharton, Tuck. Invited to interview at Columbia and Booth, in at Columbia. 15-20% Probability. - Apply to Berkeley, Booth, Kellogg, MIT. Ding without interview at all four. 50% probability.
The natural place for a candidate like you who does everything right but has that undergraduate blemish is one of the 10-16th ranked places: NYU/Yale/Duke/Ross (the schools that vie for being 10th), Cornell, UCLA, etc. If your goal is to have a solid business/consulting/IB career instead of being a lawyer, these schools will get the job done.
Thanks. I think I may have to re-think ever getting an MBA then.
@OP, why not Georgetown, USC, UCLA, UT, Vanderbilt, WUSTL, UNC, and even Duke? Those are great schools. M7 is not everything!
I might do that. I guess I'm just writing off trying to get an MBA three or four years post-law school graduation since I can get a decent MBA right now at a discount.
Why are you worrying about collecting another degree right now? Just try to get the job you want out of law school and you will probably be able to skip the MBA altogether.
Bump. The school is Vanderbilt WUSTL or Emory.
Did you work a year in law or what'd u do before applying?
I did not work. I'm a 3L.
I'm also a sub 2.5 GPA with a high GMAT (770) applying to M7 schools in round 1. From what I've read, low GPA's can be offset with stellar work experience and a high gmat score, along with a good reason for the low-grades. I believe I am such a case, but still worried because when people talk about low GPA's getting accepted to Harvard of GSB, they mean 2.8 or 2.9 in terms of how low they are talking. In any case, if you have a clear vision for what you want to do with an MBA I'd say go for it, because your graduate academic record and GMAT will show the school you can handle the coursework. I would ask around more though on how your work experience would factor in.
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