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5/12/13

I'm reading some article about people who lose/blow millions of dollars after they win the lottery - anywhere from $100k to hundreds of millions.

Usually these people in the stories are incredibly poor and simply don't know how to handle money at all, let alone those kind of sums.

If you, someone who works in or is studying finance, won some sort of lottery - say $10 million just to pick a number so there are some boundaries on what you can do - what would you do with it? What would you buy? What would you invest in? Who would you help out or not help out?

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5/8/13

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5/8/13

Bobb:

two chicks at the same time

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5/8/13

I would invest the money, wouldn't really want to spend it on stupid stuff. I would put some of it in bonds and the rest in stocks. This would help me move up my retirement date, but that is it.

5/8/13

Wild Eagle:

I would invest the money, wouldn't really want to spend it on stupid stuff. I would put some of it in bonds and the rest in stocks. This would help me move up my retirement date, but that is it.

Noice asset allocation...not.

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5/8/13

Invest in real estate and other assets which help provide a strong and stable income stream. Then just continually donate the money towards charities. If I won hundreds of millions, I would probably donate a large chunk to my university so they would have a statue of me in the middle of campus.

5/8/13

Shoes!!!!

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Dirk Dirkenson:
Shut up already. Your mindless, reflexive responses to any critical thought on this are tedious. You're also probably a woman, given the name and "xoxo" signoff, so maybe the lack of judgment is to be expected.
5/8/13

I've got a more specific question to ask: if you won one of those 'win for life' things and had to chose between $5000 a week for life or a lump payment of 1 million (both these figures before tax), which would you chose?

5/10/13

Mantis Toboggan:

I've got a more specific question to ask: if you won one of those 'win for life' things and had to chose between $5000 a week for life or a lump payment of 1 million (both these figures before tax), which would you chose?

Easy i would take the $5000 a week, without taxes involved in just 3.8 years you would hit a million. I have a good feeling I'll live for another 4 years, since im only 24, and if not sucks to be me haha

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5/8/13

Obviously take the lump payment. Time value of money

Sometimes when you bring the thunder... you get lost in the storm.

5/8/13

sweetwater:

Obviously take the lump payment. Time value of money

Ya, seriously. Always the lump

5/12/13

sweetwater:

Obviously take the lump payment. Time value of money

5,000 a week vs 1,000,000?

That's nearly a 30% EAR, you'd seriously take the lump?

5/12/13

reformed:

sweetwater:

Obviously take the lump payment. Time value of money

5,000 a week vs 1,000,000?

That's nearly a 30% EAR, you'd seriously take the lump?

was thinking the same thing. Also, depends on how long you think you will live...

5/8/13

I know that PV=A/r for a perpetuity, dunno what compounding rate to use atm, and in any case would be weary of hyperinflation (and also uncomfortable with the idea of the gov't having a financial interest in my death occurring).

5/8/13

Yeah you are right even if r very small its not even close

5/8/13

Anyhow, I wonder if everyone here would actually be as responsible as they claim. I know if I won $10 million (we'll say post-tax since this is theoretical anyhow) I would definitely save and/or invest most of it, but $1 million would definitely go to select family members as a gift (Gotta help the Mom out) and $1 million would definitely go to a car, nice clothes, an apartment (thank you, affordable regional city), and a trip or two.

5/8/13

CRE:

Anyhow, I wonder if everyone here would actually be as responsible as they claim. I know if I won $10 million (we'll say post-tax since this is theoretical anyhow) I would definitely save and/or invest most of it, but $1 million would definitely go to select family members as a gift (Gotta help the Mom out) and $1 million would definitely go to a car, nice clothes, an apartment (thank you, affordable regional city), and a trip or two.

The first thing I would do would get rid of any debt. Pay off my student loans, my siblings student loans and any of my parents debt. Otherwise at this point there is nothing else I need. Sure a car, clothing, etc are all nice but I can buy that all now, just chose not to. Can even throw the cash in some low risk fixed income and live of interest.

5/8/13

True story - my Aunt and Uncle won $10 million lottery. They get 500k pre-tax for 20 years. After taxes, it comes out to about $270k a year. They paid everything off and my Uncle bought a huge GMC Yukon Denali XL. Otherwise they haven't spent it on anything else and are both still working in their 6 figure jobs. They plan on going to vacation at some point soon. Also, they didn't have a choice of lump sum vs. payments so that's why they have the 20 years of payments.

Frank Sinatra - "Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy."

5/8/13

yeahright:

True story - my Aunt and Uncle won $10 million lottery. They get 500k pre-tax for 20 years. After taxes, it comes out to about $270k a year. They paid everything off and my Uncle bought a huge GMC Yukon Denali XL. Otherwise they haven't spent it on anything else and are both still working in their 6 figure jobs. They plan on going to vacation at some point soon. Also, they didn't have a choice of lump sum vs. payments so that's why they have the 20 years of payments.

You should offer to invest it for them.

5/8/13

TeddyTheBear:

yeahright:

True story - my Aunt and Uncle won $10 million lottery. They get 500k pre-tax for 20 years. After taxes, it comes out to about $270k a year. They paid everything off and my Uncle bought a huge GMC Yukon Denali XL. Otherwise they haven't spent it on anything else and are both still working in their 6 figure jobs. They plan on going to vacation at some point soon. Also, they didn't have a choice of lump sum vs. payments so that's why they have the 20 years of payments.

You should offer to invest it for them.

Haha, get into wealth management and sign up my first client :p

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5/8/13

yeahright:

True story - my Aunt and Uncle won $10 million lottery. They get 500k pre-tax for 20 years. After taxes, it comes out to about $270k a year. They paid everything off and my Uncle bought a huge GMC Yukon Denali XL. Otherwise they haven't spent it on anything else and are both still working in their 6 figure jobs. They plan on going to vacation at some point soon. Also, they didn't have a choice of lump sum vs. payments so that's why they have the 20 years of payments.


you can sell the PV of the annuity, probably at a discount but still better than taking municipal credit risk.
5/8/13

bearcats:

yeahright:

True story - my Aunt and Uncle won $10 million lottery. They get 500k pre-tax for 20 years. After taxes, it comes out to about $270k a year. They paid everything off and my Uncle bought a huge GMC Yukon Denali XL. Otherwise they haven't spent it on anything else and are both still working in their 6 figure jobs. They plan on going to vacation at some point soon. Also, they didn't have a choice of lump sum vs. payments so that's why they have the 20 years of payments.

you can sell the PV of the annuity, probably at a discount but still better than taking municipal credit risk.

That's a good point. What discount rate would you use though and who even buys lottery annuity payments? My aunt and uncle have literally no idea about this though and would probably be against it just because they are so unaware.

Frank Sinatra - "Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy."

5/8/13

yeahright:

bearcats:
yeahright:

True story - my Aunt and Uncle won $10 million lottery. They get 500k pre-tax for 20 years. After taxes, it comes out to about $270k a year. They paid everything off and my Uncle bought a huge GMC Yukon Denali XL. Otherwise they haven't spent it on anything else and are both still working in their 6 figure jobs. They plan on going to vacation at some point soon. Also, they didn't have a choice of lump sum vs. payments so that's why they have the 20 years of payments.

you can sell the PV of the annuity, probably at a discount but still better than taking municipal credit risk.

That's a good point. What discount rate would you use though and who even buys lottery annuity payments? My aunt and uncle have literally no idea about this though and would probably be against it just because they are so unaware.

You get alot of people to buy it. I know its done before. I'd find a way to convince them to do it and explain it in the easiest way possible.

5/8/13

TeddyTheBear:

yeahright:
bearcats:
yeahright:

True story - my Aunt and Uncle won $10 million lottery. They get 500k pre-tax for 20 years. After taxes, it comes out to about $270k a year. They paid everything off and my Uncle bought a huge GMC Yukon Denali XL. Otherwise they haven't spent it on anything else and are both still working in their 6 figure jobs. They plan on going to vacation at some point soon. Also, they didn't have a choice of lump sum vs. payments so that's why they have the 20 years of payments.

you can sell the PV of the annuity, probably at a discount but still better than taking municipal credit risk.

That's a good point. What discount rate would you use though and who even buys lottery annuity payments? My aunt and uncle have literally no idea about this though and would probably be against it just because they are so unaware.

You get alot of people to buy it. I know its done before. I'd find a way to convince them to do it and explain it in the easiest way possible.

Even my parents don't get it.. baffling.

Told them PV is $5.5 mil with rate of 3%

If they sell at $5 mil and invest into a mutual fund (for example Vangaurd's worst fund over 10 years is 6%..best is 15%)

$5 million compounded annually at 6% is about $15 million.

Would you rather have $15 mil or $10 mil? Am I doing this wrong...?

Frank Sinatra - "Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy."

5/8/13

yeahright:

TeddyTheBear:
yeahright:
bearcats:
yeahright:

True story - my Aunt and Uncle won $10 million lottery. They get 500k pre-tax for 20 years. After taxes, it comes out to about $270k a year. They paid everything off and my Uncle bought a huge GMC Yukon Denali XL. Otherwise they haven't spent it on anything else and are both still working in their 6 figure jobs. They plan on going to vacation at some point soon. Also, they didn't have a choice of lump sum vs. payments so that's why they have the 20 years of payments.

you can sell the PV of the annuity, probably at a discount but still better than taking municipal credit risk.

That's a good point. What discount rate would you use though and who even buys lottery annuity payments? My aunt and uncle have literally no idea about this though and would probably be against it just because they are so unaware.

You get alot of people to buy it. I know its done before. I'd find a way to convince them to do it and explain it in the easiest way possible.

Even my parents don't get it.. baffling.

Told them PV is $5.5 mil with rate of 3%

If they sell at $5 mil and invest into a mutual fund (for example Vangaurd's worst fund over 10 years is 6%..best is 15%)

$5 million compounded annually at 6% is about $15 million.

Would you rather have $15 mil or $10 mil? Am I doing this wrong...?

It looks like you're discounting the annuity as if they were paid a lump sum of $10MM 20 years out at a discount rate 3% compounded. Instead, you need to discount the individual cash flows as they come. You should get ~$7.5MM instead with your assumed discount rate. I don't know where you got the $15MM or $10MM, but regardless, I agree that they're better off doing what you suggest.

Edit: I didn't take into account taxes.

5/9/13

yeahright:

bearcats:
yeahright:

True story - my Aunt and Uncle won $10 million lottery. They get 500k pre-tax for 20 years. After taxes, it comes out to about $270k a year. They paid everything off and my Uncle bought a huge GMC Yukon Denali XL. Otherwise they haven't spent it on anything else and are both still working in their 6 figure jobs. They plan on going to vacation at some point soon. Also, they didn't have a choice of lump sum vs. payments so that's why they have the 20 years of payments.

you can sell the PV of the annuity, probably at a discount but still better than taking municipal credit risk.

That's a good point. What discount rate would you use though and who even buys lottery annuity payments? My aunt and uncle have literally no idea about this though and would probably be against it just because they are so unaware.


This... Could be a very good idea?
Offer someone a bunch of cash for the claim to their annuity. They're likely to take it, especially if it's some random schmo. Profit off of the spread between the rate at which you discount their annuity and the rate at which you can re-invest the cash flow.

Does that make sense?

5/12/13

lol no one said you won in greece

bearcats:

yeahright:

True story - my Aunt and Uncle won $10 million lottery. They get 500k pre-tax for 20 years. After taxes, it comes out to about $270k a year. They paid everything off and my Uncle bought a huge GMC Yukon Denali XL. Otherwise they haven't spent it on anything else and are both still working in their 6 figure jobs. They plan on going to vacation at some point soon. Also, they didn't have a choice of lump sum vs. payments so that's why they have the 20 years of payments.

you can sell the PV of the annuity, probably at a discount but still better than taking municipal credit risk.

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5/13/13

bearcats:

yeahright:

True story - my Aunt and Uncle won $10 million lottery. They get 500k pre-tax for 20 years. After taxes, it comes out to about $270k a year. They paid everything off and my Uncle bought a huge GMC Yukon Denali XL. Otherwise they haven't spent it on anything else and are both still working in their 6 figure jobs. They plan on going to vacation at some point soon. Also, they didn't have a choice of lump sum vs. payments so that's why they have the 20 years of payments.

you can sell the PV of the annuity, probably at a discount but still better than taking municipal credit risk.

The settlement structuring firms that do this (primarily from legal settlements) have some pretty solid margins. I would be wary of private solutions, as they tend to be priced for people that have healthcare bills to pay and few other options.

5/8/13

yeahright:

True story - my Aunt and Uncle won $10 million lottery. They get 500k pre-tax for 20 years. After taxes, it comes out to about $270k a year. They paid everything off and my Uncle bought a huge GMC Yukon Denali XL. Otherwise they haven't spent it on anything else and are both still working in their 6 figure jobs. They plan on going to vacation at some point soon. Also, they didn't have a choice of lump sum vs. payments so that's why they have the 20 years of payments.

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5/11/13

yeahright:

True story - my Aunt and Uncle won $10 million lottery. They get 500k pre-tax for 20 years. After taxes, it comes out to about $270k a year. They paid everything off and my Uncle bought a huge GMC Yukon Denali XL. Otherwise they haven't spent it on anything else and are both still working in their 6 figure jobs. They plan on going to vacation at some point soon. Also, they didn't have a choice of lump sum vs. payments so that's why they have the 20 years of payments.

A smart private banker could probably work out a structure to borrow against those payments at a pretty awesome rate (LIBOR + 300) and then you can match the liability payment with part of the loan and use the rest of the loan to invest or spend if your aunt and uncle prefer.

5/8/13
5/8/13

Redo:

Buy more lottery tickets

imagine the guy when you tell him "$10MM in lottery tickets please. Thanks!"

5/8/13

long chuck-e-cheese...short yen. See you at the top kid

I drink your milkshake...

5/8/13

I'd start life....and get a white tiger

5/8/13

I would move back to the North Shore and try to make it last as long as possible.

"That dude is so haole, he don't even have any breath left."

5/8/13

If I won $10mil, I'd spend ~$1-2 mil on a nice place, car(s), yacht, and other miscellaneous material stuff. I'd invest the remaining $5mil (or whatever is left after taxes) in relatively low-risk stuff. I'd also keep working and basically stay on the same path I am right now...would get bored otherwise.

5/8/13

CRE:

I'm reading some article about people who lose/blow millions of dollars after they win the lottery - anywhere from $100k to hundreds of millions.

Usually these people in the stories are incredibly poor and simply don't know how to handle money at all, let alone those kind of sums.


These statements are why the lottery really is a tax on stupid people in my opinion. Not only is the money lost at the time of purchase, but their ability to do well with the money is already mitigated by inability to manage their financial expectations.

I would probably just sleep for a few days, turn off my phone, then go into hiding from all the people who would come out of the woodwork for a piece, by changing my name. Oh yeah, and get a ticket to the Superbowl.

- wonderbread

5/8/13

Assuming post-tax...

$4M... non-luxury income producing properties (three-flat / condos-for-rent) in areas that won't lose its popularity (ie waterfront). Include buffer for repairs, maintenance, etc.

$4M... lower-risk index/mutual funds

$2M... $700-800K house, student loans, help family members, cash

5/8/13

I'd go pee in public. Don't have to give a fuck about the sex offender's registry anymore...

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5/8/13

D M:

I'd go pee in public. Don't have to give a fuck about the sex offender's registry anymore...

That's really sex offender status? I though it was more of a pay a fine kind of deal. If that's so, I need to start making better friends.

Competition is a sin.

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5/8/13

Hooked on LEAPS:

D M:

I'd go pee in public. Don't have to give a fuck about the sex offender's registry anymore...

That's really sex offender status? I though it was more of a pay a fine kind of deal. If that's so, I need to start making better friends.

In a lot of places yea, I think it depends on the cop and DA

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5/8/13

D M:

Hooked on LEAPS:
D M:

I'd go pee in public. Don't have to give a fuck about the sex offender's registry anymore...

That's really sex offender status? I though it was more of a pay a fine kind of deal. If that's so, I need to start making better friends.

In a lot of places yea, I think it depends on the cop and DA

It also depends on where you are physically pissing.

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5/9/13

Simple As...:

D M:
Hooked on LEAPS:
D M:

I'd go pee in public. Don't have to give a fuck about the sex offender's registry anymore...

That's really sex offender status? I though it was more of a pay a fine kind of deal. If that's so, I need to start making better friends.

In a lot of places yea, I think it depends on the cop and DA

It also depends on where you are physically pissing.

Honeslty this is the best direction this thread could have taken

5/9/13

CRE:

Simple As...:
D M:
Hooked on LEAPS:
D M:

I'd go pee in public. Don't have to give a fuck about the sex offender's registry anymore...

That's really sex offender status? I though it was more of a pay a fine kind of deal. If that's so, I need to start making better friends.

In a lot of places yea, I think it depends on the cop and DA

It also depends on where you are physically pissing.

Honeslty this is the best direction this thread could have taken

bahaha

5/10/13

Simple As...:

D M:

Hooked on LEAPS:

D M:
I'd go pee in public. Don't have to give a fuck about the sex offender's registry anymore...

That's really sex offender status? I though it was more of a pay a fine kind of deal. If that's so, I need to start making better friends.

In a lot of places yea, I think it depends on the cop and DA

It also depends on where you are physically pissing.

avoid those playgrounds

5/10/13

Simple As...:

D M:

Hooked on LEAPS:

D M:
I'd go pee in public. Don't have to give a fuck about the sex offender's registry anymore...

That's really sex offender status? I though it was more of a pay a fine kind of deal. If that's so, I need to start making better friends.

In a lot of places yea, I think it depends on the cop and DA

It also depends on where you are physically pissing.

avoid those playgrounds

5/9/13

I'd buy those new Nikes with the velcros.

And I owe my pot dude a dub.

5/10/13

summer camp

I eat success for breakfast...with skim milk

5/11/13

Invest half relatively conservatively (you want to live off the interest forever; so dividend plays, some munis, etc), play around with the other half (nice house(s), cars, vacations, etc.).

You'd have to be truly retarded to squander $10M. Most of the people who squander their lottery winnings are the people that win say $500K or $1M; not the people who win so much that you'd have to be an absolute retard to lose it all (even if you blew it all on houses, cars, yachts, etc. and made no investments; those things retain SOME value).

5/11/13

A helicopter, a penthouse, strippers, an oz from Cali and a half of Colombia's finest.

Put the rest in lumina investments. Set for life!!!

5/11/13

MindOverMonkey:

A helicopter, a penthouse, strippers, an oz from Cali and a half of Colombia's finest.

Put the rest in lumina investments. Set for life!!!


You can have the last three now.
5/12/13

Assuming that the $10M was post tax..

$4M... safe, conservative investments. (i'd assume that ultra conservative in the longterm based on interest + dividends would be 4.5%, which is 180K$ a year, that'd compound nicely as long as I don't need to touch it.)

$2M... a mansion-esque home in an extremely cheap part of the country, think Arizona.

$1M... help out friends & family.

$1.5M... an exciting venture that i'm passionate about with understanding that losing the money is very probable. Ex - opening a restaurant, ice cream parlor, gym, minor league sporting franchise. Something that's inherently risky but fun. If it work's out I can't think of something more enjoyable than owning and running a profitable business you're passionate about.

$1.5M... invest in startups, probably in the robotics and bionics industries, and hope one not only grows my investment tremendously, but equally important (to me, atleast), changes the world.

5/12/13

Prospect022:

Assuming that the $10M was post tax..

$4M... safe, conservative investments. (i'd assume that ultra conservative in the longterm based on interest + dividends would be 4.5%, which is 180K$ a year, that'd compound nicely as long as I don't need to touch it.)

$2M... a mansion-esque home in an extremely cheap part of the country, think Arizona.

$1M... help out friends & family.

$1.5M... an exciting venture that i'm passionate about with understanding that losing the money is very probable. Ex - opening a restaurant, ice cream parlor, gym, minor league sporting franchise. Something that's inherently risky but fun. If it work's out I can't think of something more enjoyable than owning and running a profitable business you're passionate about.

$1.5M... invest in startups, probably in the robotics and bionics industries, and hope one not only grows my investment tremendously, but equally important (to me, atleast), changes the world.


Good man
5/12/13

Buy a few toys: The car in my pic, a motorcycle, and a nice watch. Other than that, I'd just save the rest.

Here to learn and hopefully pass on some knowledge as well. SB if I helped.

5/12/13

buy a serviced residence at the four seasons in hong kong... I think I could get a 2 bedroom for that potentially.

5/12/13

1.don't tell anyone & dont sign ticket
2.act casual
3.make photocopies of ticket, store in safe deposit boxes
4.open blind trust, lawyer legally bound to maintain confidentiality --> circumvent public announcement of winnings
5.get in touch with financial planner, tax accountant, real estate guy, etc.
6.pay off existing debts

5/12/13

tequilazombie:

1.don't tell anyone & dont sign ticket
2.act casual
3.make photocopies of ticket, store in safe deposit boxes
4.open blind trust, lawyer legally bound to maintain confidentiality --> circumvent public announcement of winnings
5.get in touch with financial planner, tax accountant, real estate guy, etc.
6.pay off existing debts

anddddd make sure to hire another lawyer to watch your first lawyer. Just in case he tries to play you. You never know.

5/12/13

but then who will watch the 2nd lawyer?

5/12/13

$10 million? I think it's pretty simple.

20% = charity
20% = invested into BlackHat's fund
30% = real estate
30% = save for emergency purposes

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5/12/13

Give it all away. Don't get me wrong, I would love to win the lottery, but I feel as if i would be more satisfied if it was earned, rather than given.

"He who made it from struggling made it the best"

5/13/13

RockyRoad:

Give it all away. Don't get me wrong, I would love to win the lottery, but I feel as if i would be more satisfied if it was earned, rather than given.

"He who made it from struggling made it the best"

liar

5/19/13
5/19/13

RockyRoad:

heh


Very subtle bump, OP
5/20/13

Little Engine Would:

RockyRoad:

heh

Very subtle bump, OP

Ya...that's not me

I'm not subtle in my self promotion

5/12/13

I would go on a fishing trip to Alaska with my dad and brother.

5/12/13

If you have a choice between lump and an annuity they PV the annuity offer at a determined discount rate to result in the lump.

It's not always a no brainer to take the lump. It's based on what interest rates are at the time.

Today? Take the lump because with the rates near zero, lump sum payments would of course be very high.

Blue horseshoe loves Anacott Steel

5/12/13

live like a scrooge, put away a few million in savings, take the rest and start a micro forex/commodities fund and lever the fuck out of it, and do it in another country where they allow insane leverage levels

alpha currency trader wanna-be

5/13/13

Buy my whole home town red corvettes like in mr deeds. Just kidding I wouldn't tell a soul. Except my mother, I'd pay off her mortgage in honor of mothers day. And maybe buy my way into a top Business School if I don't get accepted into one already.

5/13/13

I'd invest most of the winnings and eventually give 90% of it to the less fortunate. I'd continue going to school and eventually be working by butt off to further my career like everyone else out there......a career that is intellectually challenging and rewarding. Money doesn't buy you happiness.

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." - Mark Twain

5/13/13

Assuming the $10M is the lump sum payment:

$4.34M for taxes (39.6% federal rate plus 3.8% Medicare contribution tax)
$1.5M for tithes & "charity" category
$0.16M to pay off student loans, pay off the car, and buy a small house
$3.0M - mutual funds, REITs, Roth IRA contributions for retirement, Series EE bonds for kids' education, etc.
$1.0M - Invent stuff. Pay for patents, prototypes, app development, etc. Eventually scale up to an Intellectual Ventures-style private equity firm sans the patent trolling, then pull an Elon Musk and pick a few frontiers to push for commercial viability - genetic engineering, telomere research, graphene development, climate control, space exploration, etc.

5/13/13

808:

Assuming the $10M is the lump sum payment:

$4.34M for taxes (39.6% federal rate plus 3.8% Medicare contribution tax)
$1.5M for tithes & "charity" category
$0.16M to pay off student loans, pay off the car, and buy a small house
$3.0M - mutual funds, REITs, Roth IRA contributions for retirement, Series EE bonds for kids' education, etc.
$1.0M - Invent stuff. Pay for patents, prototypes, app development, etc. Eventually scale up to an Intellectual Ventures-style private equity firm sans the patent trolling, then pull an Elon Musk and pick a few frontiers to push for commercial viability - genetic engineering, telomere research, graphene development, climate control, space exploration, etc.


Really stretching that last MM, huh?
5/13/13

Little Engine Would:

808:

Assuming the $10M is the lump sum payment:
$4.34M for taxes (39.6% federal rate plus 3.8% Medicare contribution tax)
$1.5M for tithes & "charity" category
$0.16M to pay off student loans, pay off the car, and buy a small house
$3.0M - mutual funds, REITs, Roth IRA contributions for retirement, Series EE bonds for kids' education, etc.
$1.0M - Invent stuff. Pay for patents, prototypes, app development, etc. Eventually scale up to an Intellectual Ventures-style private equity firm sans the patent trolling, then pull an Elon Musk and pick a few frontiers to push for commercial viability - genetic engineering, telomere research, graphene development, climate control, space exploration, etc.

Really stretching that last MM, huh?

The operative word being "eventually", and assuming all the profits are reinvested. If you have a good patent and get expert help in licensing, you can make a lot of money with a relatively small amount of effort.

5/13/13

get back to work monkeys....don't jizz your pants dreaming about hitting lottery.

5/20/13

use enough to pay off debts, parents retire comfortably, close relative's schooling etc...

let's say 4 million left for myself, invest with 5% return is plenty for me to live on. then spend all waking time learning...reading, writing, studying, meeting smart people, finding a way to contribute to interesting projects...

1/28/15

If I won $10 Million from the Lottery, I would select the 20 year Annuity installment option. From there, I would have the payment wired to my investment account where it would comprise of the following:

50%: Common Blue Chip Stocks
30%: Preferred Stocks
20%: Corporate Bonds

If I am able to grow the $10 Million into over $100 Million to $200 Million, I would use part that money to restore an old ancient castle like Raglan Castle in Wales back to its former glory as a hotel and wedding venue, and place the property into a non-profit charitable trust. Thus, I would create my own charity because I'll know where the money's going to secure its future.

1/29/15

10 million

4 million into taxes?

3 million to buy a couple real estate for more income.

1 million to try playing poker for a living

1 million to try and do things other "things" that I want for a living.

1 million to travel the world.

I dont live an extravagant lifestyle, so 1 million will last me 1 million/ 60,000= 16 years? haha

1/29/15

No. I would pursue a career as a hang gliding instructor and have fun as a PM with $200M AUM and a very patient investor.

1/29/15
1/29/15

Banking or PE? Hell no. I could see myself doing something finance related still though. With that kind of money I'd want to be able to really relax and enjoy the winnings. Move to California or someplace else with great weather most likely, and just play a bunch of golf and tennis.

1/29/15

Probably, but after a serious hiatus. And it would be real estate.

Real life monopoly? Fuck yeah, son.

1/29/15

No way. Not with that kind of cash. Something I always wanted to do is pursue the life of a monk for a few years. Live in relative solitude, focus solely on developing some insane martial arts techniques, and educate myself on world history, economics, and foreign language and culture. From there I would travel the world, taking odd jobs as they come, until I find a place I'd like to settle in.

Then one day my kids would discover the massive fortune to my name, and rush to find a way to kill me and make it seem like an accident so they can all get their inheritance.

in it 2 win it
1/29/15

I would buy experience, if there's one thing money lets you do; it most certainly is that.

I think- therefore I fuck

1/29/15

Or become batman...money allows that as well.

I think- therefore I fuck

1/29/15

I'd be an investor of my own money and would not be working under anyone

1/29/15

I got excited just thinking about the amount of fuck you I could say with $200M.

1/29/15

I'd let the inner gamer inside of me consume me until there's nothing left but emptiness and sorrow. And lots of women/drinking/working out of course.

speed boost blaze

1/29/15

Wake up, breakfast prepared by chef, hit the range for my lesson with Hank Haney, grab a snack and hit the course for 18, hit the gym, go out to dinner, booze, pass out. I'd mix that up from time to time by going on trips with my family and/or sporting events, concerts, theater, reading, etc. Not sure where I'd have any time for finance doing all that.

This to all my hatin' folks seeing me getting guac right now..

1/29/15

I'd buy a ranch in the Tetons, raise cattle, and channel my inner Jeremiah Johnson/dirtbag. Also: travel/women/food in abundance. No fucking way I'd do anything that requires me sitting at a desk.

1/29/15

Buy everything on uncrate.

Frank Sinatra - "Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy."

1/29/15

Is this a serious question? Fuck no I wouldn't work

1/29/15

If I won $200m in the lottery I wouldn't pursue any kind of normal career anymore. I'd start investing a bit of the money and have a good chunk just sitting at some low interest rate just in case anything would ever go bad. Besides that I'd live the good life and see the world etc.

I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing.

See my Blog & AMA

1/29/15

Honestly I would be a blind investor. I would invest money in blind pools.

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays

Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne

1/29/15

wouldn't you be scared that the money would be used for stuff you don't want to be associated with?

I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing.

See my Blog & AMA

1/29/15

Not really. I'm not talking about blind pools in the underworld investing type. But rather a blind trust like investment. Where a trust manager deals with all of the details and I have nothing to do with it. I just collect my payouts every month or whatever. That way you get to enjoy your winnings with out having to deal with the BS of attending to the details.

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays

Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne

1/29/15

ah ok, sounds good. I'm kind of wondering though what one would do all day if winning that sum. Most people on this thread would quit their job etc. How would you actually spend the day? Most of your friends are probably still in finance or consulting slaving away and you will get bored with getting up at noon and going to the gym every day pretty fast.

I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing.

See my Blog & AMA

1/29/15

I spent almost 6 months in South America, with the plan on doing nothing. I ended up spending a month on a motorcycle driving around, buying part of a coffee plantation, and drinking a lot. So you will find plenty of things to do.

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays

Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne

1/29/15

you bought part of a coffee plantation? do you still own it? how did you end up buying it?

I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing.

See my Blog & AMA

1/29/15

I still own it, I actually met with a rep of a PE firm that bought up a huge swath of land in the area and was selling off small portions of it. I bought a big chunk of the ground and receive payments from the sale of the crop.

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays

Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne

1/29/15

that's pretty cool - was it total coincidence or not?

I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing.

See my Blog & AMA

1/29/15

No, I would become the John D. Rockefeller of adult entertainment.

1/29/15

the question ain't what but who I'd do...and I'd bang every big gurl in Long Island. Imma just drive down long island expressway in my yellow lambo searchin for Miss New Booty. and when i find her i swear dis jigga gonna marry her on da spot. i found u, miss new booty

1/29/15

I'll tell you what I'd do, man. Two chicks at the same time, man.

1/29/15
stvr2013 wrote:

I'll tell you what I'd do, man. Two chicks at the same time, man.

haha solid quote.. id give you bananas if i had any credits

1/29/15

quit wso and finance altogether

1/29/15

Well, i'm already a winner of a cool 9 dollars from last nights drawing. So i'm assuming luck is in my favor this time around and plan on quitting my job and moving to space.

1/29/15

Buy a house close to the water on the northeastern coast, a 60' yacht and a fishing boat. Fuck trading, I'd start my new life as a fisherman tomorrow.

CNBC sucks

"This financial crisis is worse than a divorce. I've lost all my money, but the wife is still here." - Client after getting blown up

1/29/15

Working9-5:

Buy a house close to the water on the northeastern coast, a 60' yacht and a fishing boat. Fuck trading, I'd start my new life as a fisherman tomorrow.

amen bother ...

"I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing. "
-GG

1/29/15

Buy a shuttle from SpaceX
Fund a Wu-Tang tour
Build a, to scale, paintball arena replicating the Goldeneye (N64) multi-player maps

1/29/15
ThaVanBurenBoyz wrote:

Build a, to scale, paintball arena replicating the Goldeneye (N64) multi-player maps

This is the best idea I've heard in a long time. In addition to Goldeneye, there are a bunch of maps from R6: Rogue Spear I think would make good paintball additions.

My name is Nicky, but you can call me Dre.

1/29/15

10% Cash, 10% philanthropy, 40% diversified group of HFs, 20% diversified group of PE funds, 20% Munis/Treasuries.

1/29/15
CatsLHP wrote:

10% Cash, 10% philanthropy, 40% diversified group of HFs, 20% diversified group of PE funds, 20% Munis/Treasuries.

10% cash seems a little high... would never let you handle my winnings.

1/29/15
ArtfulDodge wrote:
CatsLHP wrote:

10% Cash, 10% philanthropy, 40% diversified group of HFs, 20% diversified group of PE funds, 20% Munis/Treasuries.

10% cash seems a little high... would never let you handle my winnings.

Don't know about you, but ~$25mm to live my life, while also clipping coupons on those munis and treasuries seems like a good plan to me.

1/29/15

Is there a way to stay anonymous after winning the lotto?

1/29/15
design wrote:

Is there a way to stay anonymous after winning the lotto?

Depends on the state you buy the ticket in

1/29/15

Tax shelter in Cayman Islands, keep the 390mm myself

1/29/15

That's the real question here...how do you stay anonymous? I think going public will basically ruin a winner's life, and I would rather not win than go public.

What if you take your winning ticket to a Asset Manager and they claim it for you as XYZ Trust. Maybe the guys who work in AM can chime in here.

1/29/15
JamesHetfield wrote:

That's the real question here...how do you stay anonymous? I think going public will basically ruin a winner's life, and I would rather not win than go public.

What if you take your winning ticket to a Asset Manager and they claim it for you as XYZ Trust. Maybe the guys who work in AM can chime in here.

I'm fairly certain this is legal for Powerball. Not sure about Mega Millions.

1/29/15
design:
JamesHetfield:

That's the real question here...how do you stay anonymous? I think going public will basically ruin a winner's life, and I would rather not win than go public.

What if you take your winning ticket to a Asset Manager and they claim it for you as XYZ Trust. Maybe the guys who work in AM can chime in here.

I'm fairly certain this is legal for Powerball. Not sure about Mega Millions.

I mean, I already said this, but it depends on the state you are in. Certain states require public disclosure of lottery winners. Others will allow you to claim anonymously through a trust. It will depend on the state you bought the ticket in and their state laws.

That said, I think you could claim publicly and not ruin your life. It really depends on 1) how high profile you continue to live life. 2) what type of people you've surrounded yourself with and 3) if you are smart and take proper precautions. You'll probably have to hire a security team to help you out. You may even need a guy or two in your entourage. But you can make it work. Just don't be an idiot about it.

1/29/15

Cars, alcohol, & women. The rest I'd just waste.

1/29/15

Let's see.... buy a very large plot of land and build a green and somewhat self-sustaining home in the mountains. Buy a snowmobile, a set of snow shoes, golf clubs, hiking gear, fly fishing gear and skis and a snowboard. Live a very comfortable life in the mountains and enjoy living the quiet life. With the rest, I'd give part of my family, make a donation to my fraternity and give a portion to charity. I'd just want to enjoy the quiet life.

1/29/15

If you have that much money I don't think you need to over think it. Gradually cost-average into an index fund and be a billionaire in 8 years.

My name is Nicky, but you can call me Dre.

1/29/15
1/29/15

I'd pay supermodels to pluck out my butt hairs one at a time.

1/29/15
1/29/15

Luckily, I hit the jackpot and I am talking to my lawyer about forming a trust so I can claim the prize anonymously.

1/29/15

I would cry because after taxes on a lump sum payout I would still be poorer than Mitt Romney.

1/29/15

If I won the lottery, I would continue to work for awhile until I had everything set up for my "retirement." I would want the money dispersed into the various accounts and investments, any properties I was to buy to be bought etc.

This way, I can secretly know that I can tell everyone to fuck off at any time, but not actually do it. Then once everything is set, I could throw a big bash and go out in style directly to my new mansion or out on my yacht.

Plus, banking makes for excellent connections that you would probably want to be able to manage the money and make investments in the future.

--There are stupid questions, so think first.

1/29/15

wow if I never had to work again, it would be great to pick up a creative pastime like writing or practicing an instrument.

Or maybe just be a man of leisure and try to hit on girls 24/7 like Steve Bing or Brandon Davis:

Sundance in January
Aspen in February
Cancun or Cabo San Lucas in March
West Palm Beach/Miami in April
Cannes or Monaco in May
Hamptons/Cape Cod June/July
Ibiza or Majorca in August
some big 10/pac 10 campus in September (not Stanford)
South America for October and November
St. Mortiz in December

1/29/15

I would go with SEC school in september...

MichaelHutchens wrote:

wow if I never had to work again, it would be great to pick up a creative pastime like writing or practicing an instrument.

Or maybe just be a man of leisure and try to hit on girls 24/7 like Steve Bing or Brandon Davis:

Sundance in January
Aspen in February
Cancun or Cabo San Lucas in March
West Palm Beach/Miami in April
Cannes or Monaco in May
Hamptons/Cape Cod June/July
Ibiza or Majorca in August
some big 10/pac 10 campus in September (not Stanford)
South America for October and November
St. Mortiz in December

1/29/15

SEC? No thanks; he had it right the first time (well Big 10 anyway, not sure about the whole Pac 10 thing, unless you're into s****y football.

heloo17:

I would go with SEC school in september...

MichaelHutchens:

wow if I never had to work again, it would be great to pick up a creative pastime like writing or practicing an instrument.

Or maybe just be a man of leisure and try to hit on girls 24/7 like Steve Bing or Brandon Davis:

Sundance in January
Aspen in February
Cancun or Cabo San Lucas in March
West Palm Beach/Miami in April
Cannes or Monaco in May
Hamptons/Cape Cod June/July
Ibiza or Majorca in August
some big 10/pac 10 campus in September (not Stanford)
South America for October and November
St. Mortiz in December

1/29/15

I have a feeling it is the hot girls that are the priority over the quality of the football. Regardless, Big 10 is not top of either list.

WxOnWallStreet:

SEC? No thanks; he had it right the first time (well Big 10 anyway, not sure about the whole Pac 10 thing, unless you're into s****y football.

heloo17:

I would go with SEC school in september...

MichaelHutchens:

wow if I never had to work again, it would be great to pick up a creative pastime like writing or practicing an instrument.

Or maybe just be a man of leisure and try to hit on girls 24/7 like Steve Bing or Brandon Davis:

Sundance in January
Aspen in February
Cancun or Cabo San Lucas in March
West Palm Beach/Miami in April
Cannes or Monaco in May
Hamptons/Cape Cod June/July
Ibiza or Majorca in August
some big 10/pac 10 campus in September (not Stanford)
South America for October and November
St. Mortiz in December

1/29/15
MichaelHutchens wrote:

wow if I never had to work again, it would be great to pick up a creative pastime like writing or practicing an instrument.

Or maybe just be a man of leisure and try to hit on girls 24/7 like Steve Bing or Brandon Davis:

Sundance in January
Aspen in February
Cancun or Cabo San Lucas in March
West Palm Beach/Miami in April
Cannes or Monaco in May
Hamptons/Cape Cod June/July
Ibiza or Majorca in August
some big 10/pac 10 campus in September (not Stanford)
South America for October and November
St. Mortiz in December

You know your s***, buddy!
Looks like P Diddy's calendar!

1/29/15

I would start my own PE fund, and get to workin'.

1/29/15

I'd probably finish my analyst program.

But after that. F-uck no.

1/29/15

A guy who just won $230+ million took home "only" 85 mln for cash option and after taxes.

If I won that much I would definitely quit immediately and not do anything (for income) for the rest of my life.

But if I were to win $10mln or like $4mln after taxes with cash option, I would quit anyway but would work on something more enjoyable and maybe start my own business.

1/29/15

I'm going new business route, and saying bye bye to the Banker grind.

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1/29/15

if I won, I wouldnt let anyone know except my family that's far away from ny.. and i would send them some money.. continue banking and pretty much not let it affect my life too much. hah.

1/29/15
DaniNo wrote:

if I won, I wouldnt let anyone know except my family that's far away from ny.. and i would send them some money.. continue banking and pretty much not let it affect my life too much. hah.

Why?

Bond

-
Bond

1/29/15

Here's my rule of thumb: cash payout is bigger than 8m, put most of it in muni's and live off the ~300k in tax-free interest per year. Do not work.

Less than 8m... work.

Step 1: Dream the Dream || Step 2: Live the Dream || Step 3: Rinse, repeat.

1/29/15

I wouldn't let anyone know as well, there is a negative stigma attached to lottery winners as well as expectations to be throwing lavish parties all the time, etc. I probably wouldn't quit my analyst stint right off the bat, but would look to move into a field that would help me learn how to manage the money (IM, HF, etc) as well as make connections. In the meantime I would start to allocate the assets into different investments and eventually take on more risk when I feel comfortable.

Once the money is growing itself nicely, I would do something interesting and socially acceptable for a few years and position myself for a political campaign. Start with the House and move my way up from there.

1/29/15

I would be play in every major poker event around the world. Would set enough aside in muni bonds so that I could live off the interest and would put the rest into starting a prop firm where I could hire people I thought would be successful traders. Yeah im an addict.

"Oh the ladies ever tell you that you look like a fucking optical illusion" - Frank Slaughtery 25th Hour.

"Oh the ladies ever tell you that you look like a fucking optical illusion" - Frank Slaughtery 25th Hour.

1/29/15

Anyone who would keep working as an analyst is a fucking moron. Not to mention, your incentive to work would drop to zero, basically. Your willingness to put in 100 hour weeks would evaporate immediately.

More importantly though, why the fuck would you keep working here? So you can do grunt work? So you can spend your days and nights looking at spreadsheets? Give me a fucking break. Some of you people are such ungodly tools, it blows my mind.

1/29/15
TheKing wrote:

Anyone who would keep working as an analyst is a fucking moron. Not to mention, your incentive to work would drop to zero, basically. Your willingness to put in 100 hour weeks would evaporate immediately.

More importantly though, why the fuck would you keep working here? So you can do grunt work? So you can spend your days and nights looking at spreadsheets? Give me a fucking break. Some of you people are such ungodly tools, it blows my mind.

I agree with you 100%! Some of these posts here are ridiculous.

Actually if I found out that I won the lottery while being at work, my reaction would look like this:

"WOOOOHHOOOO, I QUIT, WOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHOOOOOOOOO"

1/29/15

100k on Black

"Oh the ladies ever tell you that you look like a fucking optical illusion" - Frank Slaughtery 25th Hour.

"Oh the ladies ever tell you that you look like a fucking optical illusion" - Frank Slaughtery 25th Hour.

1/29/15

Why the fuck would I work ? Some of the guys on here are so risk-averse, its almost unbelievable.

1/29/15

...if you said you'd keep working as a fucking investment banking analyst, you need to have your fucking skull crushed with a sledgehammer.

Let's think about this:

You're saying that you'd want to continue spreading comps and reformatting presentations and building "financial models" all fucking day? Or screening for M&A comps, or spreading the WACC, or doing DCFs. You've got to be fucking kidding me.

This thread is actually making me visibly angry. If a fellow analyst ever said something so fucking pathetic to me, I'd beat him to death and fuck him in the ass with a plunger.

Did some piece of trash really say he'd keep working for the connections? Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, that junior VP is really going to help you make serious life decisions with your millions. Oh yeah. Give me a fucking break.

1/29/15
TheKing wrote:

Did some piece of trash really say he'd keep working for the connections? Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, that junior VP is really going to help you make serious life decisions with your millions. Oh yeah. Give me a fucking break.

If you have that kind of money, you won't need to "make" connections. They will fall all over themselves to come to you and manage your money.

Being the client is good.

  • Capt K

- Capt K -
"Prestige is like a powerful magnet that warps even your beliefs about what you enjoy. If you want to make ambitious people waste their time on errands, bait the hook with prestige." - Paul Graham

1/29/15

"Oh the ladies ever tell you that you look like a fucking optical illusion" - Frank Slaughtery 25th Hour.

"Oh the ladies ever tell you that you look like a fucking optical illusion" - Frank Slaughtery 25th Hour.

1/29/15

Excellent. Actually sounds kinda fun, I'm game. Who doesn't love crashing and exploding things?

1/29/15

People are different, and I assume those that would keep working are driven by something other than a thirst for money/luxurious lifestyle, or might not be as satisfied on the 15 million dollar yacht with hot babes etc.
The various positions are all valid in their own respect and I don't think you can say one is superior to another, unless you are speaking in regards to your personal desires, and it would be silly to attempt to superimpose those onto everyone else.

1/29/15
Underground:

People are different, and I assume those that would keep working are driven by something other than a thirst for money/luxurious lifestyle, or might not be as satisfied on the 15 million dollar yacht with hot babes etc.
The various positions are all valid in their own respect and I don't think you can say one is superior to another, unless you are speaking in regards to your personal desires, and it would be silly to attempt to superimpose those onto everyone else.

Got to agree with TheKing on this one... if you seriously would keep working in IBD after winning the lottery, you need a serious cocksmack to the face.

1/29/15
Underground:

People are different, and I assume those that would keep working are driven by something other than a thirst for money/luxurious lifestyle, or might not be as satisfied on the 15 million dollar yacht with hot babes etc.
The various positions are all valid in their own respect and I don't think you can say one is superior to another, unless you are speaking in regards to your personal desires, and it would be silly to attempt to superimpose those onto everyone else.

Let me be very clear here. This is not a discussion of our values relative to one another. This is a discussion as to whether or not you would continue to work as an analyst if you won the lotto.

If you would choose to continue working 80-110 hour weeks formatting comps, writing CIMs, and running DCF analyses, then you deserve to get fucked in the ass in a prison shower, American History X style.

I refuse to believe that anyone in this thread that claimed that they would continue to work has EVER worked a day as an analyst. It is simply impossible to have done this and say something so fucking absurd.

1/29/15
TheKing wrote:
Underground wrote:

People are different, and I assume those that would keep working are driven by something other than a thirst for money/luxurious lifestyle, or might not be as satisfied on the 15 million dollar yacht with hot babes etc.
The various positions are all valid in their own respect and I don't think you can say one is superior to another, unless you are speaking in regards to your personal desires, and it would be silly to attempt to superimpose those onto everyone else.

If you would choose to continue working 80-110 hour weeks formatting comps, writing CIMs, and running DCF analyses, then you deserve to get fucked in the ass in a prison shower, American History X style.

I refuse to believe that anyone in this thread that claimed that they would continue to work has EVER worked a day as an analyst. It is simply impossible to have done this and say something so fucking absurd.

wow. sounds like somebody needs a hug. you sound like you hate your job so much that you can't even believe that someone else might not hate it ... or god forbid even enjoy certain aspects of it ... grueling as it might be. do you even realize how lucky you are to still have a job? much less one which affords you so much opportunity in the future? if you hate it so much then by all means please quit. i suspect that your sunny attitude isn't helping any of your fellow analysts survive their program with their sanity in tact.

1/29/15

I would put enough in munis to get me 300k-600k a year, then use the rest to start a hedge fund, found a charity, find ways to not become a complete slob from excessive ballin out.

1/29/15

Dude, you are making a huge assumption here... not everyone in this forum works as an analyst in IBD. You can't assume that their saying 'work' implied that they'd return to a thankless, draining, 100+hr/wk spot in IBD. It's just not the case.

Anyway, don't you think you're getting a little over-excited for an anonymous internet forum? You really get 'visibly angry' over this bullshit?

Step 1: Dream the Dream || Step 2: Live the Dream || Step 3: Rinse, repeat.

1/29/15

AssociateGuerrila, I am not making an assumption here...the OP said "Would you continue to work in banking if you hit the lottery tomorrow?" My replies have been directed at people who said they would continue working in banking. And guess what, the majority of the people on this site are either analysts, aspiring analysts, or associates.

Spinner, yes I realize how lucky I am. Yes, there are aspects that I like about my job. However, who in their right fucking mind would continue doing this if they were handed millions of dollars. You've got to be kidding me.

We are discussing an absurd hypothetical scenario and people are giving responses that ought to make you question their very humanity.

1/29/15

right. if some guy actually continued to work in his analyst/associate job then he would actually be paying to work (biggest bang for your buck would be from figuring out investments for your money)

myself, I would spend all my time with golf an ouzo. whatever makes you happy.

1/29/15

money can't buy swag my killa

1/29/15

but to answer the question, i would gather the most aggressive homeless people across manhattan, shuffle them all into a packed times square and give them pure cocaine.

1/29/15

356k prostitutes at 1k a piece

I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you.

1/29/15
Neighbor wrote:

356k prostitutes at 1k a piece

what do you plan to do with that many prostitutes?

1/29/15

Travel the whole Formula 1 season. UGR TT Gallardo. Invest in start-ups.

WSO Vice President, Data
@JustinDDuBois

1/29/15

Create a fixed income laddered portfolio, Live off interest travelling the world as a "photographer"

1/29/15

wouldn't your sister's nephew be your nephew too or does she have nephews that have no relations to you?

1/29/15
blahwoop wrote:

wouldn't your sister's nephew be your nephew too or does she have nephews that have no relations to you?

I meant my nephew which is her kid, ooops

1/29/15

Start a hedge fund and turn it into billions! And in the mean time buy a massive crib, a few nice whips, and chill.
Oh, yeah and I guess I'd have to give some to my parents since they did raise me and all.

Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.

1/29/15
CornerOffice21 wrote:

Start a hedge fund and turn it into billions!

god i hope this is a joke. just fucking retire and see the world. or at least travel for a year or two.

1/29/15

i wuld use the mony to buy lots of wall st. prep clases and mock invesmtent banker interviws to make sure i am proprerly prepared to be a invesmtn banker. cuz i mean 356 milion dolalrs is a lot of money but a invesment banker can make more then that if he want to. i mean look at loyd bankfine he is rich and prety cool guy (cuz he is a ceo of all investmetn bankers)

i laugh at all you dum boys sayin " i will travel tha world" lolol what are you going to do when i pass you up in da amount of money i have cuz while u were busy travellin the world i was a invesmet banker making lots of money and models and bottles

1/29/15
Blalock wrote:

i wuld use the mony to buy lots of wall st. prep clases and mock invesmtent banker interviws to make sure i am proprerly prepared to be a invesmtn banker. cuz i mean 356 milion dolalrs is a lot of money but a invesment banker can make more then that if he want to. i mean look at loyd bankfine he is rich and prety cool guy (cuz he is a ceo of all investmetn bankers)

i laugh at all you dum boys sayin " i will travel tha world" lolol what are you going to do when i pass you up in da amount of money i have cuz while u were busy travellin the world i was a invesmet banker making lots of money and models and bottles

are you...wait...could it be? is there like, um...any chance you might be...trollin'?

1/29/15

Give it all to Obama, because I have a good feeling he will find a good use for it.

OBAMA '12

1/29/15

Drop it all on FlexJet cards. True story.

1/29/15

property of course

1/29/15

Pay half in taxes, so $1 million leftover. Not enough to quit a job, but enough to change my lifestyle for a bit. Honestly I'd probably keep 100k liquid and the rest invested in something (not sure what as of this moment).

1/29/15

15% to charities, 75% invest, 10% enjoy:)

1/29/15

Pay for school. pay off previous students loans and debt. take 10% of the left overs to enjoy life with, and then invest the rest.

make it hard to spot the general by working like a soldier

1/29/15

It's so depressing to think about this. First, I get really excited thinking about having $2M, then I get sad because in reality my net worth is negative due to student loans...

However, I'd invest 90% of it in stocks, give my family 5% and spend 5% on myself.

1/29/15

Buy 20,000 Core I7 Processors and start solving bitcoin problems.

1/29/15

IlliniProgrammer:

Buy 20,000 Core I7 Processors and start solving bitcoin problems.

Don't forget electricity costs.

"For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry God. Bloody Mary full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now and at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon. Amen."

1/29/15

duffmt6:

IlliniProgrammer:

Buy 20,000 Core I7 Processors and start solving bitcoin problems.

Don't forget electricity costs.


Self-funded operating expense where I have enough cash to cover the first month's bill.
1/29/15

IlliniProgrammer:

duffmt6:
IlliniProgrammer:

Buy 20,000 Core I7 Processors and start solving bitcoin problems.

Don't forget electricity costs.

Self-funded operating expense where I have enough cash to cover the first month's bill.

Have you actually worked out the economics for this (I feel like you probably have)? I wonder how profitable it would be assuming minimal fluctuation in btc exchange rates. Also, how quickly would the returns diminish due to the increasing complexity of the mining process?

"For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry God. Bloody Mary full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now and at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon. Amen."

1/29/15

duffmt6:

IlliniProgrammer:
duffmt6:
IlliniProgrammer:

Buy 20,000 Core I7 Processors and start solving bitcoin problems.

Don't forget electricity costs.

Self-funded operating expense where I have enough cash to cover the first month's bill.

Have you actually worked out the economics for this (I feel like you probably have)? I wonder how profitable it would be assuming minimal fluctuation in btc exchange rates. Also, how quickly would the returns diminish due to the increasing complexity of the mining process?


Of course I've worked out the economics of this.

1.) Buy lots and lots of CPUs.
2.) ???
3.) Profit

I'm not trolling anyone at all here. Altho if the bitcoin idea doesn't work out, I can try to corner the Betamax VCR market.

1/29/15

IlliniProgrammer:

duffmt6:
IlliniProgrammer:
duffmt6:
IlliniProgrammer:

Buy 20,000 Core I7 Processors and start solving bitcoin problems.

Don't forget electricity costs.

Self-funded operating expense where I have enough cash to cover the first month's bill.

Have you actually worked out the economics for this (I feel like you probably have)? I wonder how profitable it would be assuming minimal fluctuation in btc exchange rates. Also, how quickly would the returns diminish due to the increasing complexity of the mining process?

Of course I've worked out the economics of this.

1.) Buy lots and lots of CPUs.

2.) ???

3.) Profit

I'm not trolling anyone at all here. Altho if the bitcoin idea doesn't work out, I can try to corner the Betamax VCR market.

More like:

1) Buy 50 of these beasts.
2) Run an extension cord to your neighbor's house.
3)???
4) Profit

1/29/15

Assuming you would net around $1 mil from the winnings....

I would keep around $200K for fun and throw the other $800K into my brokerage account and invest it in broad market index funds. That would make retirement awesome.

With the $150K I would...buy a new car ($50K?), get a new wardrode ($5K?), Give some to my parents ($40K), Buy a boat for the lake (parents would benefit from this) ($30K), motorcycle ($15K), $20K to my little brother

The rest ($40K) to party, do some traveling, to afford the gas for my truck, since I'd be driving a sick F150 in the city.

1/29/15

start a hedge fund and turn it into $2 billions

1/29/15

10% on a beach house in Dominican Republic. There play online poker and import peanut butter!

We're running out of oil....sike!