If you're a poor white/Asian person, maybe you're just stupid
Let's be honest, a black person had his history erased, his family destroyed, was forced to 300 years of free labor, and had to deal with domination by the majority as well as terrorism, with no place to find refuge. Wealth did not exist for the slaves/former slaves because it was a pillar of American form of slavery that made it unique of all the world's slavery.
With that said, 1965 brought the Moynihan report, and even there, there was large consensus by many who projected that hardship for black Americans was not even close to over, because of the formerly mentioned issues. So in 2020, I have to look around and recognize Moynihan was quite prophetic.
The fact that there are more than just black people frustrated about the current conditions may be saying more about the country than just black people, but I'm not sure. If you're a poor white or Asian person and you're upset with not getting into a target, well, tell me, what's your excuse for being poor? Maybe the problem is you have issues that need to be worked on outside of where you go to school or what company you work for.
Made my popcorn and am ready for this show
This is perhaps the worst logic I have ever heard... There are plenty of very successful black people, so what's ur excuse for being poor if you're black? -thats basically what you're saying...
Not to mention Asian people also have had a very brutal history- which you chose not to mention. They were more or less slave laborers building the transcontinental railroads in the 1930s. The were put in interment camps and had their property stripped.. The reason that Asian people are more successful than black people today is mostly a result of their hard work and good cultural values.. Doesn't matter about wealth- most asian people I know were near the top of their class. Asian people almost never get divorced meaning kids grow up in 2 parent households-unlike African Americans which have by far the highest rate of single mother house lands and high school dropouts..
And now they have been so successful that the system works against them through AA. Thats why Harvard isn't 50% asian, and African Americans are overrepresented despite having the lowest test scores and GPA of any race.. Its not "his or her" fault if an asian doesn't get into an ivy- its their ancestors fault for working so god damn hard and risking so god damn much that they could overcome the racial barrier to emerge as the most successful race in America today
The post is mostly facetious, but, realize this is exactly the point--that blacks didn't have this chance. Hard work was stolen and so was cultural values.
And you don't think Asian people's hard work was stolen? That white bosses said they did all the work when the Asian employee hadn't slept in 2 days. And how do you steal cultural values- were white people telling black fathers to leave their kids? Most obstacles black people faced (and face today) were obstacles Asians had to deal with as well.
Nothing against African Americans- more a compliment towards asians. Their hard-work and discipline, family values, focus on education allowed them to overcome racism in ways other races haven't (native Americans, African Americans). And now they are punished for that, I call BS.
Not disagreeing or agreeing, but building transcontinental railroads in the 1930s? Wrong century dude. Pretty crazy to see how warped peoples' senses of history are.
I can't tell if you're talking to us or to all the poor asians and whites who aren't on this site.
lol what a shitty generalization just assume that all asians and whites have had the same exposure and knowledge to attain wealth like it's a simple process
You sound like a right nonce mate
" No refuge"
Ummm, have you never heard of Liberia?
Christ. You're the reason why we have middle fingers.
Saddened by the lack of meaty discourse on this given the number of posts going in the opposite direction. But, thanks for your tears, anyway.
Tears? No tears here.
Last time I checked, you're the one butthurt about this enough to go out of your way to bitch about it on WSO.
this has to be a troll right
When did WSO turn into reddit?
When anonymous posting in the off topic forum was created
It's such a Catch 22 for WSO. I bet the user and post statistics plummet if they removed anonymous posting, even if only in O/T. The quality of the posts would go up, though.
What was the point of this post?
I guess it's not RaCiSt to discriminate against white and Asian people.
FUCK OFF
I don’t know where this post is discriminatory. Constantly, I see posts from alleged blacks, whites, and Asians, shitting on affirmative action, mocking blacks completely without regard to the actual process of college admissions. No one is enraged over those posts, in fact, most of this board cheers them.
That's because AA is a well-intentioned but terribly designed program that actually prevents qualified people from getting into colleges they want and leads unqualified people into failure that otherwise would've been avoided if they went to a slightly lower tier school. Dare I say, AA is part of systematic racism. (not to point out that it's reverse discrimination)
Your "analysis" (it's more of a nonsense with extremely shallow logic) generalizes people of certain racial groups. And then you go on to criticize those groups for "not trying hard enough". It sounds awful a lot like you're saying "they deserve it because they didn't have it bad enough and they didn't try hard enough either". At that point, you might as well as support reverse discrimination, which by definition is another form of discrimination.
Your vast generalizations of certain groups of people makes me sick. You do know that's considered racist right?
Meet a Neo-Nazi Who Says He's Not Racist
I do think this topic calls into question why some people are more susceptible to poverty than others. Black Americans today are the descendants of 400yrs of American Chattel Slavery / Jim Crow and had been stripped of the right to vote, own land, make an honest wage, and generate generational wealth etc all while being subjugated, raped, pillaged and beaten. It's sort of been a systemic issue for many blacks that has spanned generations. That's why I don't have as much trouble understanding where their plight comes from today. For poor White / Asian Americans where have we has a people failed them? You can bring up the discrimination of the Irish people, Jews who experienced the Holocaust, or Japanese Internment Camps during WW2 but none of these truly compare in totality to nearly half a millenium of slavery / jim crow for blacks. I do think it is most effective to rectify wealth inequality socioeconomically rather than racially but there's a lot of overlap between the two regardless.
Exactly, the solution to racial injustice is the same as solution to socioeconomic inequality. It's pointless and actually harmful to try to solve "systematic racism" because most of systematic racism's effects are socioeconomic. No set of laws that intentionally discriminate people of certain race anymore...
Also, on Asian people not facing discrimination as hard as African Americans, Asians weren't allowed to be citizens for a long time. Look up Ozawa v. United States and Yamashita v. Hinkle. Asians were denied US citizenship because "they aren't white nor black".
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In the early 1900s western imperialism robbed the shit out of the Qing government and fucked up a lot of cities and historical relics. If using the current mechanism we use to address and correct racism, I think modern China could have been asking every member of the eight-nation alliance to make up their sins in the past over the last century, and should have every right to do so. But somehow the chinese people managed to gather their shit instead and grown aggressively to where they are today.
Let's face it. Things are not that easy for Asians, especially for many of those first generation immigrants. Many of the asian countries were poor as fuck back in the early and middle 1900s. We are talking about basic hygiene and nutrition kind of shits, not to mention the lack of social and economic development. The life of many early immigrants were miserable as hell. These asians have worked their ass off here to climb up the social ladder. Even in today, college admission is harder for asians, corporate hiring is harder and the ceiling is lower, cost of living and education to many of the internaitonal Asian students are significantly higher factoring to the difference in purchasing power.
There was this Chinese kid whom I used to play basketball with back in middle school. His parents sold their only house in China to send him here and were willing to make unconditional sacrifice to support his education. Of course, my man has “made it" and gets a sweet job in the Valley. To me, a lot of asians succeed not because they are genetically smarter or socially privileged; they succeed through their hard work, family values, disciplines, the emphasis of education, etc. You can't just call those asians who do not make it anomalies because you think they are suppoed to succeed.
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