Recent Grad -- Lost & Frustrated, Seeking Advice

Hi guys,

I have been a long time lurker on this site, and a lot of the advice from threads I have read on here helped me land my internships in the industry. This site has been great for answering my questions in the past, so I am hoping some of you will have suggestions for my current situation.

For background on me: I am a recent finance graduate of a top state school. I have experience at a BB in corporate banking, and two other finance related gigs. Great GPA and some relevant ECs.

In the fall I pushed hard to secure a FT IB role and managed to land a couple of superdays, but wasn't able to obtain any offers. I also had superdays for some buy-side opportunities and consulting, but none of those panned out. I got feedback from a couple of those superdays which suggested that my technicals could use some work, so I went back to the drawing board. I set up informational chats with alums, practically memorized the BIWS guides, and hit recruiting again in the spring. I had some promising leads in February, but my pipeline completely disintegrated as COVID hit. I am now at a point where I have no interviews, and I am becoming increasingly frustrated and disillusioned with the idea that I will get any traction from applying to these online portals. Virtually all of my interviews have been through OCR, and it seems that the few opportunities that are posted online require prior work experience.

I don't want to give up on the IB dream, but I am also a realist. Given the state of the economy, what positions are still hiring that can be leveraged to IB? Some of the advice I have received so far is doing valuation work at Big 4, but I haven't even seen postings for positions like those. My long term goal is to be competitive for PE, and I realize I am already off that "track," which has brought significant stress to my life in the past year. With that in mind, I still want to put myself in a position where I can be competitive for laterals to IB, or worst case scenario, find a role that I can use that will allow me to apply to T15/M7 schools for MBA.

With regard to interviews -- should I even bother applying online, or should my focus be on cold-emailing and alumni?

I am at a point now where I have received so many rejections that I am beginning to question my fit for the industry, but many of the posts and stories on here have kept up my resolve and I am not willing to quit just yet.

Thank you guys in advance for any advice that you might have for this lost grad. I really appreciate it.

 

Bump. Good luck dude. Reddit r/FinancialCareers may be more responsive

 
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Quarantine has provided us a really valuable opportunity to rethink our lives. Take the time to figure out what exactly you want to do. I recommend the book "What Color Is Your Parachute", which walks you through step by step to figure out what your dream career looks like.

Then, build up a portfolio and have someone review it. You can even hire someone from Upwork or Fiverr to do this. Once you have the portfolio, get really good at informational interviews and do more of them, but selectively based on what you figured out in Step 1. The book "2-Hour Job Search" helped me a lot with this. Get on these companies' radar and make sure to follow up with the contacts every few months to keep them warm.

A few things I learned from my own experience, either getting the informational interview or giving the informational interview:

  1. Have a clear ask. Don't ramble. You should be able to concisely describe where you are now and what you are trying to figure out. If you don't know anything about the industry and want to figure out where to start - tell me. I don't want to spend time explaining the specifics of my job just to find out you have no idea what I'm talking about or it's completely different from what you are looking for.
  2. It's not the time to brag about yourself. Ask questions more than you talk, unless they are actively asking you questions. When they do, be concise.
  3. Be genuine and honest about where you want to go. Don't lie just because it's more relevant to the firm. It's worse to end up stuck on a path you don't want to be on.
  4. If they ask you to send them your resume, follow up with your whole portfolio and a thoughtful message. I go one step above by including a custom message to that person within my portfolio and sending a small thank you gift to their office through Amazon. That being said, I am very selective with which firms I am talking to, so I'm not dropping all my savings on this.
  5. If they don't ask for a resume, follow up within the same day anyway.
  6. Especially given the circumstances now, be patient. Recognize that a lot things are out of your control and fully accept that you will take the time to find the RIGHT experience and not just any experience.
  7. Most importantly, I hope you can meet some really great people through this process. Many people are genuinely eager to help, and it's a great feeling talking to them about what they love doing. Treat them as people that you want to get to know, rather than connections that will just get you to your next job. When you enjoy talking to them, the quality of these connections will be so much better.
 

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