I'm Worried
Long-story short, I'll be a new FT analyst out of school. Had a few different offers and my choice of city with a few places, and I decided on Charlotte. My reasoning was really just a far lower cost of living.
I've always been one to really be afraid of spending much, didn't have much savings from college at first when deciding, have student debt, etc etc. I also read a lot of the bad stories here over the last few months about FT analysts and figured I wouldn't even have time to spend on all the entertainment/amenities of a city like NYC.
I've been reading some posts here about the cities and now I'm having second-thoughts. A lot of people seem to be saying there's not much going on and it's not worth it for a new young graduate to start here for just marginal savings? I know it's silly, but several posts were jokingly "ranking" the city as dead last.
I missed out on a lot in college because of health issues and a subsequent surgery that solved things (albeit far too late into my senior year). I definitely want to try and make the most out of my younger years and make back what I missed before having to settle down somewhere slower. I also feel like there is this idea that if you are in a southeastern city you may have not been a strong enough candidate for NYC banking or wherever but this isn't even my case and I don't want it to stunt my career options.
I'm not familiar at all with the city and would be a complete transplant. So I'm not even sure on exact location. Obviously, all the banks are in Uptown so is that where new analysts live or is Southend and having a bit of a commute more typical? Am I just thinking about everything wrong? I can't help but shake the feeling that I've locked myself into a situation that I'm going to regret especially when I had a lot of options. Any insight very much appreciated.
Well you've already made your decision so going backwards isn't an option. A few things I can share to hopefully settle your mind:
-Your goal was saving so you chose Charlotte. You will maximize your savings here. But it's unlikely you'll maximize savings + make up for lost time. These two usually have an inverse correlation.
-Southend commute is max 10-15 minutes, so it's hardly a commute
-Uptown vs. Southend for living/activities is debatable. Know friends that do both but being able to walk to work is a nice feature. Although Southend has a younger crowd you can Uber anywhere within 10-15 minutes, it's a small city.
Thanks for the response. I think Uptown with a short walking commute would make more sense and I could uber for cheap to Southend at night if wanted. I would imagine uptown would still have a lot going on though.
I live in Nashville, and have been to plenty of cities in the SE including Charlotte. Charlotte is fine, you will find things to do. I like Nashville better just because there is a lot to do for such a "mid-size" city (nightlife here is really fun especially if you like music other than "club" music.) Lots of outdoor things to do as well and winters aren't miserable.
The COL here is way cheaper than the NE (no state income tax and we bought a 4br house in the burbs for $350k last year). So the savings are not "marginal." Go try and find a house in/around NYC for $350k that isn't old and dilapidated. Charlotte housing is pretty close to here too I think. I'm not as familiar with the nightlife in Charlotte, but it's a city of 2.1mil which makes it slightly bigger than Nashville, so I'm sure there are clubs/bars/breweries etc. And you can always find groups of younger single people to do things with/party via online.
Personally, I just don't like NYC. Too crowded, expensive, and I like the culture here so much better (I grew up in the South though so biased). People in the SE are just nicer and not as stuck up. Whenever I moved back to the US from China in 2018, Nashville, Tampa, Miami, Atlanta, Dallas and Charlotte were my 6 choices and Nashville won, but Charlotte was a contender for sure.
Is Charlotte NYC, no. Will you have fun in Charlotte, yes. Congrats and enjoy the bbq.
Currently in undergrad in the region, also incoming IB SA at an MM in Charlotte here. While I haven’t personally lived in the city, we have a ton of alum who end up there including multiple close friends of mine who are a couple years older than myself, so have had opportunity to hear about life there from various perspectives. I was initially shooting for BBs/EBs in NYC (who isn’t), and was quite disappointed when networking/applications/interviews were fizzling out there. Was happy to get an offer at all, but had similar worries about settling for an MM in a satellite, “low tier” city like Charlotte. In the coming months since, however, I’ve had a complete change in perspective and am actually extremely excited for this path. My thoughts behind this:
Life goes beyond just night life too, which is where CLT thrives - it is actually in a phenomenal geographic location. Just 1-2 hours from both the beach and the mountains. Driveable distance to bigger cities like ATL, Nashville, DC, Raleigh, as well as to smaller (but cool) cities like Charleston, Asheville, Savannah. Big enough airport to have decent flight options to anywhere else.
Also, the food scene is allegedly good (plenty of cuisine options, high quality options available, etc.) Southern barbecue is also a thing of beauty.
Quite good weather year round - good if you don’t love the cold.
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All of this to say - I do not see myself staying in CLT for the long-term. Definitely my analyst years in banking, maybe a small PE or HF shop for a couple years, but then I will likely move. Ultimately, the South is not where I want to end up, I will likely want to be closer to my family in the Midwest, I’d still like to see other cities while relatively young, yadda yadda. If this is your thought too, I understand the hesitation behind the future hurdle of getting your new target firms in top-tier cities to give a shit about your experience in little old Charlotte. While maybe partially true, I am confident in my (and most people’s) ability to network to such goals. I landed an IB spot coming from a complete non-target, and will put in the same (if not more) effort in recruiting for that next step out of CLT. I also go back to numerous conversations with alumni who have made the transfer. If they can do it, I can do it. There’s some quite decent MBA programs in the area if that’s your preferred route too. And, if absolutely nothing works out - hey, at least you have significant savings to take time off and figure it out.
All in all, don’t knock it before you try it. There was likely a reason it stuck out to you in the first place. Learn how to kick the FOMO on wherever else and focus on exploring that reason once you’re there. Happy to shed more light if you’d like, shoot me a DM.
Formatting didn’t come out great on this thanks to mobile, but hopefully you get my points
Really appreciate the big response. This is super helpful. Any thoughts on Uptown v Southend? Office will obviously be in uptown
If you are at B of A or WF, you will be working on big "NY" deals, and just covering them from Charlotte. The only thing that is harder is networking and interviewing. Both of those banks should let you transfer to NYC after a year or two. I have friends at B of A who did that and know of a kid from Wells as well who said it was not that hard. If you want to go clubbing, that won't be much of an option in Charlotte, I don't think. However, there are many other ways of making up for lost time. Just see what Charlotte is like and then transfer to NYC if you don't like it.
Not OP but also heading to CLT. No clubbing? Is that actually true genuinely don't know
There is some, but it is not like being in DC or Boston (and certainly not like NYC). There aren't really any major universities nearby so there is no steady stream of young people. There are nightclubs in Charlotte, but it is not like the other cities where there are always full houses etc.
Also, when I google it, most of the top clubs that come up are in strip malls around the city....never a good sign.
Take a deep breath. Charlotte is a wonderful city and it sounds like you were able to find a great job. Work your tail off and see where it takes you -- if you find yourself wanting to move to NYC after a year, go for it.
Comparison is the thief of joy my friend. Congratulations on the opportunity and hope you make the most of your time there.
Appreciate the response. Let's hope so.
Personally I think you made a mistake. There is definitely an "experience" piece of it (living in NYC for the first time, first job, getting crushed as an analyst, going out etc)..plus easier to move from big city to small city than vice versa IMO.
All that said, I think Charlotte will be cool and that you will still enjoy it. Once you get there you'll probably stop thinking about NYC.
Dang, didn't want to hear that but really appreciate the honesty. I'm terrible at making decisions like these
You're a FT analyst in IB. There's nothing you should be worried about. Are there better career moves? Sure, one could argue that but what's the point?
Your starting point is better than 97% of people out there. No point in obsessing whether you should have chosen another path that would have started you better than 99% of people your age.
My advice is this... living in a new place is what you make it. I don’t want to sound like a dick but I think I’ve lived in some really cool places as well as some less cool places and what I’ve learned is you can really enjoy pretty much anywhere you live (obviously there are some exceptions). Go in with an open mind, positive attitude, and surround yourself with good people. Lastly, don’t try to make it somewhere it’s not - don’t move there expecting an experience like you would get in NYC. Embrace it for what it is and you can find that you can be very happy there
Best of luck
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