Integrated Reasoning Help - GMAT - What is Wrong?
Has anyone who has studied for the GMAT found the Integrated Reasoning portion hard?
I've consistently scored 700-750 on the past 4 MGMAT practice tests (75-80% Q, 90-95%V) but in the 2 tests that I've tried out the integrated reasoning portion, I can't get higher than a 3-4.... I'm always pressed for time and seems like even when I think I answered the questions right, I did not.
Does anyone have any tips? I take the test very, very soon and am getting quite concerned over the IR portion.
Thanks in advance for all comments.
Are the practice tests you took from GMAC or are they from some other source? IMO the actual IR is way easier than the ones Kaplan or MGMAT give.
They are both from a MGMAT practice test. A score of 3 is like in the 5 percentile... Which is why I'm extra concerned.
To be fair, MGMAT tests are not that accurate from my experience. The quant is definitely a bit harder than the actual but not sure about IR. I think the key to IR is just being able to look at data quickly the first time around to get a feel for what's going on and then being able to quickly go back to answer the questions. Also if you're good at basic deductive reasoning you'll do well. Don't really have advice to be honest. I didn't study IR at all when I was preparing for the GMAT.
Took the GMAT a month ago. I found that IR to be really, really easy -- much easier than MGMAT. Never got even close to an 8 on the MGMAT preptests, but got an 8 on the real thing, if that helps.
Honestly, dont worry about it. When you're actually taking it on the test, even with only a 70% focus as youre already thinking about the Quant section, you're going to find it very easy if you just give it some effort.
MGMAT is harder than the real test. I never scored higher than a 730 on MGMAT, got a 760 on actual test. Never studied IR besides 2 practice tests where I got a 5 at best. Then I got an 8 on actual test. Don't stress about MGMAT quant/IR.
Okay, thanks for the confidence boost. We'll see how it all plays out in the next few days.
The MGMAT Scoring for the IR section is flawed. If you got them all right you'd end up with like a 3.9, or at least that was they way it was 6 months ago.
I'm certian I missed 4 questions on the actual test and I eneded up with a 8. I think the section was much easier on the real test. It's not computer adaptive, so you'll get the same questions that someone targeting a 500 score will recieve. Just remember to pace yourself, as they will drop 1-2 tough questions.
I dramatically increased my performance on the IR section by simply skipping the really tough ones. It seems like GMAC wants you to burn time on one or two extremely complicated questions which, in turn, leaves you short on time for the manageable ones. I ended up with a 6 on the real thing with this approach which isn't too bad (had like 5 mins to spare at the end).
Wow. I'm glad that I took it before this was added.
Integrated Reasoning Consensus (Originally Posted: 03/28/2012)
For some one who is debating cramming in the next two months to avoid the integrated reasoning section, I am a little curious as to the general consensus. What does everyone think about the new section? I saw a 2 of the samples they released and it didn't seem too bad. Does it make more sense to cram and avoid the section or should I just take my time studying and take it with the new section. I also just saw how fucking expensive all of the materials are... The prep companies are going to make a killing when this new section comes out. Thoughts? Suggestions on studying? Discuss.
I saw one of the guys from Kaplan come out and basically say there's no reason for you to wait to take it and should definitely take it before the new section if you can. The reason is because it will take more time studying for the new section to achieve the SAME score on the old test (since you have to spend more time preparing for a whole new section). Therefore by taking it before the update comes, you essentially get extra points for taking it before the update comes.
If you spend x hours on old=680 if you spend x hours on new=650
to get 680 on new, it will take x+y hours, so it's not worth it because of the excess time required for the SAME score. obviously this is all an approximation, and i have no idea if it will be a 30 point differential, but thats the basic gist.
it doesn't look like the new section is going to be part of the 800 score
Both very different responses. Has anyone seen whether it will or won't be included in the 800? If not how will it be taken into account?
It's NOT included in the 800, you can go to the official GMAT website to prove that. The real consensus is that 1) nobody knows how the score will be perceived, but 2) people GENERALLY think that the schools aren't going to put much weight on it because it's new, and will therefore mostly rely on the Q / V split and aggregate GMAT score as they always have. In other words, take the test when you are ready and don't get your panties in a twist.
If you're applying for fall 2013. I would wait.
I was one of the people that tested this section for GMAC (wrote in January) and in my personal opinion this section benefits people in finance, especially those who have done cases (Those who went to case based schools have a leg up). I found it very intuitive and of the 12 questions I had to do at least 4 had graphs (which you should be able to interpret if you're in finance).
Your numerical score will still be determined by quant and verbal.
The integrated reasoning section will be every bit as useless as the AWA score is for your essay.
^^ This, while the 'Integrated Reasoning' is new and you should probably study for it a little bit, it really won't matter unless you basically score a zero which would be akin to writing nothing for your essays. The score is reported separately just like the essays are and just like the essays no one will care about the score unless you basically don't do the entire section. There is no need to rush your prep and take the test if you're not ready, just proceed as usual and spend a few extra days looking at the pointless graphs and paragraphs that are part of the new section.
I agree with BepBep12 . Take your time and make sure you are fully prepared. Also I believe the IR section will be at the end of the exam - this may help some people as they only have to write one essay prior to Quant and Verbal.
^This is correct and all of this can be found on the GMAC website.
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