Intern: GE Capital vs BAML/WF Corp Bank

Hey Guys,

I have an offer for a summer internship with GE Capital (Risk Management/Financial Management) as well as offers from BAML and WF's Middle Market Commercial Banks. The offer from baml is for their Healthcare group and WF is a generalist group.

I was wondering which one of these two Summer internship options would best set me up for FT IBD recruiting in the fall. I know GE has a strong brand name, but CB puts a huge focus on financial statement analysis/ general credit.

I also have an offer from Nike/Adidas -type company for corp fin. Im not sure how that figures into this equation.

I have previous a previous internship at a big name aerospace company (Raytheon, Lockheed, Boeing) and a BB PWM internship.

I know that getting into IBD without previous IBD experience is tough but I just want to know what gives me the best chance to do so. Thank you for any recommendations/advice!

 

What cities are the offers in? If you're interested in working for WF or BAML in IBD and the internship offers are in Charlotte/LA/NYC, I would go accept one of those and network as much as you can with people on the IB side of the business.

All things equal, and assuming working in healthcare IB is something you'd be interested in, I'd recommend baml.

 

GE is in Chicago, BAML/WF are in LA or NY. If I were to apply for a full time position at another BB would my CB experience count against me or be looked down upon? I know there is a stigma (justified or not about PWM internships) and was wondering if it was the same for CB.

Would anyone be able to speak to how these roles (the FT versions) would be looked at by MBA programs? How do CBers do in the MBA admissions process?

Finally - are there any ball park ranges for FT salaries for BofA and WF CB roles? I have been digging around WSO and have not found a consistent answer ( I have seen 45K base w/25K bonus all the way to 70K base 10k bonus). If anyone has an insight or found a WSO thread with the answer - please let me know!

 
Best Response

I would definitely go with the BB Commercial banking internship. Aside from having an IBD SA for junior year, the next best thing you can pretty much do is Corp Banking / Commercial Banking (with the exception of top consulting or PE) as it would be highly relevant and transferable for IBD recruiting.

I currently work in CB...did not apply for IBD out of school as I knew the hours/lifestyle were not for me but still wanted to develop a solid skill set in financial statement analysis, looking at companies/industries, and working in a transactional based environment. I have worked with/trained summer interns and have participated in the SA interview process as well so hopefully can address some of your questions.

As an intern you will be working on: 1. spreading financial statements into proprietary bank software 2. assign companies risk ratings using bank platform 3. write quarterly financial/operating performance reviews 4. calculate financial covenants to ensure borrower is in compliance w. quantitative clients 5. receive on the job credit training from your group 6. be looped into live deals and help out with some of the analysis (depends on how good you are and how good your group is about letting the new guy take a shot/test his skills).

If you do a decent job you will get a return offer but it will most likely explode before you can interview with ibanks for FT unless you go through accelerated process.

However, having an experinence like this on your resume junior year will definitely give you a very solid skill set and will be a great learning opportunity. Also this is a real internship where you do real work as opposed to some of the BS excel datadump projects you do in corp finance. Both BAML and WF have very structured programs and you will have solid networking opportunities and exposure to senior leaders in the commercial bank.

Word of caution: networking opportunities for IBD is what you make of it. Depending where you are located, there may be no IBD group to network with in person....if that is the case you will need to email alumni in bank that work in IBD and setup some informational calls/etc. If you are in a region where the bank has IBD that will be very helpful as you can set up in-person meetings and hopefully network your way to a FT interview next fall.

Regardless both of these are very solid opportunities and I would go with it over GE capital. Middle market at BAML and WF is going to have some clients with revenues > $1B so it will be a solid opportunity and very easy to spin the experience/craft your story as why you want IBD.

As for BAML vs. WF here are a few thoughts 1. If you think there is a chance you will accept FT offer, pick the bank and group you prefer to start in. 2. WF is a generalist position so you will be exposed to a greater variety of clients. 3. baml is very specialized but will also gives you great experience if you have an interest in health care and for targeting healthcare IBD. 4. Both programs will look equally strong on your resume and prestige is the same. 5. Don't take any of these internships based on your ability to get into IB within the same bank...I would take the NYC office for sure and network with IBD there. Also it will give you the opportunity to network with people from other banks as well.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

 

Thank you so much - that was incredibly helpful and exactly what I was looking for. Would you be able to speak to compensation for a FT CB gig out of college or to the MBA programs CBers get into after 3-4 years?

 

Compensation for commercial banking in those cities for a FT analyst is likely to be ~$65K with $5K sign-on and ~$6K-$12K year end bonus.

CuriousGeorge15:

Thank you so much - that was incredibly helpful and exactly what I was looking for. Would you be able to speak to compensation for a FT CB gig out of college or to the MBA programs CBers get into after 3-4 years?

 

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