International Business School vs. US Business School

First time poster here. Have a few questions about business school...

-I am curious as to if there any particular benefits to studying at an international business school, London Business School, per se, as opposed to just staying at a top tier business school within the US? If the end goal is management consulting, does going international make me more marketable to a top consulting firm?

-I've read that getting an MBA is a great way to switch industries if you would like to transition to another...but is it actually plausible to say that I could transfer from an industry as far from consulting as Marketing or Advertising by getting my MBA? I'd like to clarify that that is not the sole reason for considering an MBA. I realize in addition to switching industries, there are innumerable potential networking opportunities, as well opportunities to travel, etc.. But in my current situation, would be the biggest incentive.

Thanks!

 
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First time poster here. Have a few questions about business school...

-I am curious as to if there any particular benefits to studying at an international business school, London Business School, per se, as opposed to just staying at a top tier business school within the US? If the end goal is management consulting, does going international make me more marketable to a top consulting firm?

-I've read that getting an MBA is a great way to switch industries if you would like to transition to another...but is it actually plausible to say that I could transfer from an industry as far from consulting as Marketing or Advertising by getting my MBA? I'd like to clarify that that is not the sole reason for considering an MBA. I realize in addition to switching industries, there are innumerable potential networking opportunities, as well opportunities to travel, etc.. But in my current situation, would be the biggest incentive.

Thanks!

Regarding your first question, it depends. If you intend on working in the US directly post-MBA it doesn't really make sense to go to LBS. Any of the T14 in the 'States would generally serve you better for US recruiting, plus they all have wider US networks.

As for switching industries, many of those going into consulting post-MBA tend to be career switchers, so that is eminently doable.

 

Top US schools (USNews Top 10) are better quality programs compared to top international programs (LBS and INSEAD). Your chances are better at top 10 US schools, even for positions in Europe. Consulting firms can recruit for offices worldwide so location of your school is not as important.

Second questions, you can come from any pre-job and get into consulting. Consulting firms value smart people coming from diverse backgrounds. This almost has no impact on your hiring prospects if you are a strong candidate.

 

Definitely go MBA business schools">M7. The Chinese love brand names, and there's no better brand name than an MBA business schools">M7 school for MBAs. If you can actually read, write, and speak Mandarin, you will have no troubles.

 

I'm not doing traditional finance per se, but I've worked for a Chinese company, lived in the region and am familiar with some of the greater China MBA programs you mentioned. I can with 95% certainty assure you that HSW, Yale SOM, Columbia will get you further in China than any of the local programs. Sure, the local MBA will land you a job, perhaps even at GS, but I haven't seen a single graduate ending up at, say, Blackstone - in fact I am not even sure they recruit at these schools. And why would they? The best Chinese talent do their MBAs in the US. If you don't have a strong network, which would be the argument for studying in the region, I suggest you go on exchange to mainland (not HK). That way you'll get the chance to meet everyone you need and have the stamp on your forehead from your American alma mater that Chinese firms love. The one exception perhaps is the Schwarzman scholars at Tsinghua, which is completely free and totally worth it, but that's not even an MBA program.

 

Your input is much appreciated. Why do you recommend to do exchange on mainland china? -not exactly what I expected, although I would be open to staying mainland for MBA exchange (Beijing, Shenzhen, Shanghai).

First time I ever heard of Schwarzman scholars, looks really interesting and EXCEPTIONALLY competitive. Appears that Schwarzman Scholars can almost choose which MBA program they would like to go to, very impressive.

Life's too short to smoke cheap cigars.
 

You left out one crucial piece of information: this guy was writing about how to get a job in MIAMI. You do NOT need to speak Spanish in New York. It is true that you need to speak Spanish for 95% plus of financial jobs in Miami.

 

I am quite familiar with MIA (yet I have never lived there) and I think Michael De Meo's comments are very spot on (I laughed when he says "buy a 2nd hand BMW, Mercedes or Audi to fit"... 100% accurate).

It is not about the language; if you are an arrogant white anglo bragging your Ivy League credentials (even if you speak Spanish) you will not fit into Miami's "culture". That might work in New York, Boston or Chicago, not in Miami. People will think you are an asshole if you think you are more important than someone else because you are a Yale or Harvard degree.

In that sense, Miami is very "socialist", very Latin American or European. They want "social" and language skills, and that is more important than pedigree to a larger extent. Also connections are more important. And by connections, I don't mean the typical anglo "networking" but someone you personally appreciate (family, friend...)

That doesn't mean that a better MBA is not gonna help you like anywhere else, but they are more open to different backgrounds or experiences, and more companies don't have this obsession with ranks.

 
FreezingEmail:
more companies don't have this obsession with ranks.

What is the US obsession with rankings due to? Insecurity, crave for self validation? Lack of affection due to families kicking you to the curb at age 18? It's amazing how rankings are applied to just about everything...best cities, most miserable cities, best professions, tier 1, tier2, etc (according to whom I may ask)...only in the USA even in the world game players are ranked by assists, shots, shots on goals, and saves. In any other league in the world, only the goal scoring ranking matters.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/stats

 

Matter of fact in most European countries Engineer is one of the most respected titles you can carry. It places well above any business graduate in the eyes of companies and the public opinion.

It's really sad how the US society is created around the concept winner/loser. Just watching all the homeless on the street and the middle class people living segregated in their boring cookie cutter suburban homes made of cardboard makes you wonder whether capitalism has gone too far...

 
Ibracadabra:
Matter of fact in most European countries Engineer is one of the most respected titles you can carry. It places well above any business graduate in the eyes of companies and the public opinion.

Being an engineer in the US is, while still a pretty low-status job for most, still far, far more impressive than being a "business graduate." There's a pretty huge difference between millions of "business graduates" and a relative handful of investment bankers.

 

IMBA is great (imho, as a grad), but no question Americans don't speak enough foreign languages. But in corporate finance is it really that necessary? (I don't know personally). I do myself, and it's part of the reason I chose an IMBA instead of traditional.

I'm moving to MIA in June, so we'll see if it actually helps me with a non-finance background...

 
peinvestor2012:
What was the point of this post? If you are trying to work in the US, US MBAs> International. And vice versa.

Your bank sounds mediocre at best.

According to what ranking? (see above for rankings reference)

 

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