Investment banking 2nd round interview prep
Hi all, do you think that a "30-60-90-Day Plan" would be helpful in an investment banking interview?
what should I include in it ? and how to write a killer one?
Thanks in advance
Hi all, do you think that a "30-60-90-Day Plan" would be helpful in an investment banking interview?
what should I include in it ? and how to write a killer one?
Thanks in advance
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What are you even asking?
If someone told me it would take them a month before they got any work done, I wouldn't be jumping the gun to hire them. It seems weird to me. But apparently it's successful? IDK. I wouldn't suggest it.
Do you know what junior bankers do?
Clearly the answer is no.
OP, just study technicals and why you want to work at that particular bank.
Stick to the script, but be the best actor.
Round 2+ Interviews (Originally Posted: 06/14/2012)
There is a lot of material for first round interviews (particularly for IBD) behavioral ques, technical ques, and so on. A lot of guides cover enough material to get students through round 1 but what happens in round 2? Often students are rejected for a lack of depth or understanding of concepts or because they are unable to hold a conversation!
For those who have got through the first round and onto the second(+) what sorts of things are asked that are different to round 1?
How did you prepare for the other rounds?
also interested
hope to get response from someone experienced
I have had a few second/final round interviews and I didn't feel that they were particularly different from first round interviews so that might explain why there is not so much information on that topic.
Imho, prepare in the same way you have for your first round of interviews and you will be ok.
You mentioned that candidates fail in the second round because they lack understanding. Well my guess here is that they already lacked understanding in the first round but it just wasn't discovered. Probably because some candidates in round one were even worse and you tend to have more interviews in round two.
But isn't round 2+ with MDs etc who grill you on more details or make you talk about a topic in depth for 30 mins? These are stories I have heard.... anyone who can verify this? I hear Round 1 is breath, Round 2+ is depth.
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from experience, it really depends on the firm.
some firms do a first round interview to just screen terrible candidates that know how to put together a good resume. so it might be more technical from the get-go, and the second round interview is more of a balanced mix between fit and technicals.
i've also had first rounds that are purely fit based, no more than 15 minutes, simply checking whether I pass the airport test. the next rounds were - not surprisingly - more technical.
in general, what's more telling is who is interviewing. at least for me, interviews with associates have been more technically oriented and with MDs more fit oriented. VPs can go either way, but they usually want to know if you have good business sense as.
perhaps the biggest difference between a first and second round is that second rounds are more thorough. you'll go through a series of interviews where they try to wear you down. technical questions shouldn't necessarily differ much from a first round (either you know it or you don't), but second rounds - if they are in person - can include more case-like questions. had a second round interview a couple of months ago and had a 1-hour modeling exam as well. nothing too complex, but you if i didn't know what i was doing, I probably would have shit my pants.
in sum, hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. many prospective monkeys make the mistake of focusing too much time on the technical part and assume the fit component is a given. while being technically proficient is definitely important, it's more important to be upbeat, confident, and have your story down cold so you can hook the interviewer from the outset of the interview.
best of luck
esBanker. Thank you for your response. Helpful to a lot of interviewees. Would you mind saying what positions and what firms made you do a modelling exam?
I was applying to pre-mba analyst positions (with a couple of years of work experience). i had a basic lbo modeling exam with a private equity firm (very typical) and I had to build a basic accretion/dilution model for an M&A team at a European BB bank.
I was already working in the field, so they expected me to know financial modeling. But even if you are still an undergrad, I would suggest you to learn some basic financial modeling - you never know what they can throw at you these days, and you want to be prepared for any curve balls.
i highly suggest Breaking Into Wall Street's Fundamental course - it really covers everything you need for an entry-level interview. but don't get carried away with the modeling and remember that fit is just as, if not more, important.
Nicely put, esbanker.
I had 9-10 FT Associate first round interviews and then went to 6 'Super Days' (some of them on the same day). Expect anything at anytime, but most time I was interviewed by associates the questions were very technical - especially since I was coming from a non-finance background. The reason for this is that VPs and up are not always current on exactly what an MBA student is expected to know from a technical standpoint.
esbanker - you the man!
My degree has 'finance' in the title but we only study 1-2 modules of finance (which doesn't cover valuation or anything) in the entire degree. Yet I'm grilled like I'm some sort of pro. Is there a way out of this? Or just learn everything I can? :s
even if you don't study anything related to finance, you are still expected to know the basics of the job: accounting, valuation methodologies, how to analyze a business, general market trends, etc. if i'm an interviewer, and you can't get these down, then you're signaling me that you are not that interested and motivated.
if the questions are ridiculously hard and you know that it's beyond what you are expected to know, then the interviewer is testing you how you react and think under pressure. can you keep yourself composed? is your answer (and the assumptions behind it) reasonable?
again, there are plenty of resources out there to be well prepared, starting with the WSO guides, accounting and valuation books (some of the best are not text books, like Pearl and Rosenbaum's book) and online modeling programs.
esbanker's first post really hit the nail on the head. The only difference you may note is that I highly doubt you will have modeling tests for an analyst position in IB. Having gone through 4 superdays for FT, I never once received a modeling test. However, a friend of mine did have to build a Statement of Cash Flows given an Income Statement and the current and previous period's Balance Sheets. If you know your accounting basics inside and out, you will be fine. I actually had an Associate ask me to work through basic accounting problems on a dry erase board (T-accounts) in which he would give me hypothetical scenarios. Aside from basic conversational technicals, this is the only actual 'work' I ever had to do in IB analyst interviews
To reiterate esbanker, 1st rounds are used to screen out candidates who are not fit for the job but are able to throw together a good resume. Following rounds typically consist of 4-8 sessions of 30 minute 2-on-1 interviews consisting of technical and fit questions. MDs focus more on fit. VPs could go either way. Associates more than likely will grill you on technicals. If there is an analyst sitting in, he will more than likely just be used as a prop-- However, I highly recommend you asking the analyst pertinent questions as this will give you the best idea of firm/group culture
Best of luck
Are these comments mostly for MBA and beyond or undergrad? Or is there a difference at all? Thanks
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