iPad in the Office?
As an intern, is it acceptable/common to bring an iPad into the office? Obviously wouldn't plan to mess with it while at work, but use it on the commute and potentially to take notes, etc.
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I'm not sure, but my boss has his iPad sitting next to his computer. Looks like he uses it for personal stuff though. Not sure how I feel about that.
How high up is he? One MD isn't on his Ipad, but has a second laptop that he is always setting his fantasy lineup on. Nobody can say or do a thing about it.
but you can browse and post on WSO and have no issue?
Not sure how I feel about an iPad sitting on his desk. No problem using work time for personal stuff :).
Why wouldn't it be? Sounds like it won't even be out unless you are using it for work purposes (i.e. notes).
I have on sitting at my desk, but rarely use it sans market checks on Bloomberg's App.
It's obviously fine to have it with you, but don't use it to take notes. You'll look like a douche.
I use a Samsung Galaxy Note as my notepad, calculator and for reading PDFs in the office. iPads are also pretty common. That said, people mainly use them for work in the office, not pleasure.
I'm not sure on the etiquette of taking a tablet into a toilet stall. I'd worry that people would think I was engaging in inappropriate workplace behaviour.
"don't use it to take notes. You'll look like a douche."
Ahh nooo! I've been looking like a douche all this time and I thought I was just getting with modern technology!
I shall douche-on, albeit somewhat more self-consciously now.
Are you an intern? Would you want to be the intern taking notes on an iPad when everyone else (who is obviously senior to you) is using pen and paper?
Douche.
You need to be punched............hard.
(I take notes with the stylus, not typing. You'd look like a knob typing notes on a tablet)
Do you see people using iPads? (Originally Posted: 03/26/2011)
Im wondering if this device is used in Banking/business. If so, how is it used?
I see people with them all the time. Mostly WSJ reading or the like. JPM gave them out to their Ibankers awhile back as a sort of pilot program. Didn't hear much about it after that.
I get emails nonstop from an MD "sent from his ipad" - I think he uses it at home while he's just hanging out. Outside of email or reading through slides, I don't think it's used much for actual work.
one MD i know uses it to markup slides. Much more efficient than taking prints, marking them up, scanning them and emailing them. Ipad or any other tablet for that matter can be just used to read stuff, check emails, and occasionally mark up documents. Thats it
Our partners use them religiously.
Various pharmaceutical companies gave them to their sales force as a pilot program. Other than that, haven't seen too many outside of a corner Starbucks.
At my B-School, I see people checking stock prices/google finance all of the time.
Actually, reading through and correcting pitchbooks was literally the only useful thing you can do on an ipad that I could think of.
Its best function though is to play Angry Birds during downtime.
^Disagree. Its best function is mobile pornography viewing.
Some of the banks (BofA and CS I know of) have apps that allow you to access all of their research I believe. Good for reading emails. I know one of the principals at my firm uses his to catch up on news and emails while on the treadmill in the morning. Easier than reading on the bb/iPhone
We all have one on my floor but more for our personal fun when we have some minutes. Office doesn't let us set up work emails on them, so no can do on like pitchbooks and the like.
Friend is an associate over at JPM and they gave it to them for work but he hates it, imagine doing anything credible on that.
I was at an investment conference earlier this winter sponsored by a big HF. All the presentations were on iPads in addition to a projection up front. We got to keep the iPads at the end of the day.
A stack of 500 iPads at the registration table is a damn sexy sight.
^thats legit.
..yeah... seen some MDs ballin out with burberry iPad covers, i was like wtf!? some of our clients also bring them to meetings. hate to say..but aapl just did it again..eventually the ipad is going to be as common as the ipod and the iphone..
There are apps that are great for analysis and data presentation like http://www.roambi.com/ipad-features.html
In banking, they're very useful for senior bankers who want to view or mark up files without having to find a Wi-Fi spot for their laptops. Unless you have a 4G laptop stick and a subscription, you'd need an iPad to view files more easily. Try viewing a model from your Blackberry. Not fun.
My MD's a big fan. I'm looking to get the Galaxy Tabs that come out in the summer because I love the look of Honeycomb.
I SEE DEAD PEOPLE USING IPADS
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wow seriously a lot of geeks out here using their ipads for reading google finance and fixing pitchbooks and whatnot. you have all day at work to do that. .. use it for games, read some interesting books, watch a movie, music videos etc..
who you calling a geek
a ipad is and will be as standard equipment as a blackberry is today
iPads at Biz Schools (Originally Posted: 11/01/2010)
IMD in Switzerland recently held a trial where they gave their students iPads for the classroom. It went fairly successfully and the school is thinking about expanding the program. The linked article highlights the pros and cons of iPad use in Biz School.
http://www.businessbecause.com/mba-life/ipads-at-b-school-pros-and-cons….
Thoughts on its use? Would you rather take hand notes or read/write notes on an iPad?
Probably fine depending on whether or not your office has a rule agienst it, just check with compliance. I recently got mine hooked up to my work email/phone plan.
I am on an iPad right now and I find it to be an excellent tool in all ways. Hurray for this program. Carrying around physical books in a huge bag all day is terrible for your back, and yet having all your info on hand is optimal... iPad is the answer.
I still believing in getting the physical books to keep at home though. No substitute for the real thing... Yet.
At lot of schools, including mine, we already get laptops. However, by my senior year, many professors were banning those because they realized the kids were on FaceBook and AIM most of the time. One professor put up a mirror in the back of the class room so he could see what students were looking at on their computers.
I think most people (at least in undergrad) just don't have the discipline or respect for the class to avoid the IM and social networking sites and really focus.
I have an iPad but it is nothing more than a toy. A fun toy, but a toy nonetheless. We never use books in class, so that point is moot, and i sure as hell won't be writing notes with my finger that look like a kindergarten fingerpainting. Nor do I want to type on that keypad.
i have an mba and would under no circumstances recommend an ipad for your main device during business school.
your classwork will require the creation of absolute reams of documents, marketing plans, huge spreadsheets, case projects, stock pitches, etc etc and like 200 emails a day. and the ipad excels at consuming content, not creating it. i did loads of excel work and microsoft word. real excel work with some data crunching type stuff going down. for one class i needed to run SAS, and several different programming languages had to be installed and lots of other classes required unusual software. you're really going to need a keyboard, and the iOS walled garden will have severe compatibility issues with all the "other" software you'll be using aside from Word/XL/PPT.
i'd be very interested to hear somebody who's done their mba with an ipad. it's an awesome device. but i couldn't imagine being able to survive school with it.
Looks like Nyenrode Business School, in the Netherlands, just picked up iPad use as well - but only for specific purposes and projects. At least it comes with tuition:)!
The following from their press release -
“The International MBA students will be given iPads to use in the Apps in Business project. In the context of Nyenrode’s International MBA, the iPad will play an important role in sharing information, planning classes and maintaining the (international) network of professional and social contacts. This will also make an important first step towards the renewal of education”, says Prof. Désirée van Gorp, director of the International MBA program at Nyenrode.
With Apps in Business, the students will join with Sogeti to perform practical research on the development of intelligent, competitive and innovative mobile solutions for business and education. The students will also contribute to the ViNT study “The App Effect”, the main aim of which is to establish the impact of apps on organizations and business. An interesting and relevant project for todays' Gen Y MBA crowd."
clearly it cannot be your main device! you need to bring around your macbook air or pro to take notes and do research... the ipad is a secondary screen used for reading / referencing textbooks and websites while you're working on the laptop.
I would be careful using any smartphone/ipad for taking notes. I feel like the notepad and pen is an iconic symbol of the intern. When I've used my s4 for taking notes I've always gotten weird looks from senior management like I was texting during a conference call--granted I didn't have the cool little stylist pen like the Galaxy Notes have though.
JP Morgan Gives IPads to Its Bankers (Originally Posted: 11/30/2010)
"JPMorgan, the second-largest U.S. lender by assets behind Bank of America, will distribute iPads free of charge to all associates in its global investment banking division, the Nov. 24 e-mail shows. Employees will get to keep the device as long as they remain at the unit until the pilot program ends on May 1, 2011."
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-30/jpmorgan-gives-its-investment-…
1) Any JPM'ers wanna trade? 2) Time to start shorting RIM...
Wow...I bet this will significantly increase the amount of time their guys spend on the shitter
2) nail in the coffin...
Epic short RIM. Their little monopoly slowly breaks down.
ROFL @ short RIM.
Why lol at short RIM? They have showed over and over again that they are completely incapable of building a modern smart phone. If they don't make dramatic changes soon, either iPhone or Android will definitely take the enterprise market
I have been short RIMM for almost a year now. RIMM is the new palm.
RIM is blockbuster...
Hope you didn't short it today...
@duffmt6 - nah, I'm an Associate Director in my late 30's. I've probably created a future generation of douche bankers who now think using a tablet for note taking is the done thing.
FT Analyst iPads (Originally Posted: 01/19/2011)
Will any other BB banks pull a similar move to JPM and give bankers iPads? And will any of those bankers be newly hired FT analysts this summer?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-11-30/JPMorgan-gives-its-investment-…
Who gets these? Just associates or higher I thought?
Yes, this article says: "JPMorgan will distribute iPads free of charge to all associates in its global investment banking division, the Nov. 24 e-mail shows. "
My question is whether other banks will do the same?
I find this pretty ridiculous. An iPad is almost totally useless for any banking work - good luck editing a spreadsheet or slide deck. Not to say they're not fun machines for media, games, and web browsing, but about the only argument you can make for it as a work device is as another email machine. And everyone already has a BB or iPhone. Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the bigger Apple fanboys you'll meet, but it really doesn't make sense to pass these out as "an additional mobile tool" to bankers. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Apple was subsidizing or even totally paying for a few hundred iPads (cost at ~$300ish * a few hundred = no more than $100k for Apple) as a great publicity move to position themselves against RIM as an enterprise device.
maybe it's just more of a "perk" / extra little bonus type of thing... As CaptK said, I don't see them getting a whole lot of use out of iPads. I have one and love it, but it's not a business tool.
I guess I do tend to use it for reading industry reports / reviewing slide decks, etc, when I'm on the plane. It can be useful for business on the plane... but that's a pretty small amount of your time.
Met a guy from DB TMT in London who thought he could work on a ppt on the plane on his iPad and leave his laptop on the way in. He was bitching and moaning throughout the run-through session about what a nightmare it was.
that sounds nightmarish to me.... you can't modify a ppt on an ipad... not possible. The only work related activities you can do are read / review and email.
Well...
Well...
These are incredibly useful for traveling. Think about how much paper Ipads save. Instead of carrying around 10 PIBs, 3 presentations, and other documents, they can read all of that on their one Ipad. I'll admit that this is most useful for the senior guys, but it's still really, really useful and my group uses Ipads a lot (not JPM, but BB).
Nothing wrong with using it for personal use on the commute or while eating, but it's just not a wise choice for regular use at the junior level (in banking). People don't know if you're working or goofing off, and since perception is reality, you want people to hold a perception of you as a hardworking, diligent analyst (even more so as an intern).
It's like the classic rule about clothing: if you think it might not be appropriate, it isn't. Always stick with the safe bets, at least until you get out of the purgatory that is the two-year banking experience.
Tips for Using iPad in IBD? (Originally Posted: 02/19/2013)
I'm going to be a SA in IBD (focus on M&A) this summer and wanted to see if you guys had any experiences/tips on using an iPad for work in IBD. Only thing I can think of so far is being able to have an extra screen for 10k/10q's when you're modeling or putting in inputs like spreading comps - any helpful tips or apps that might be worth downloading?
I just use mine when traveling to read and play games, and sometimes check email. I never end up using it at the office though
Id just use it for reading materials on the road or when out of the office. Maybe for reading news when/if you commute.
I've seen some people keep it on the stand on their desk with some streaming news feeds and stock info just for it to be there. As far as work materials go, going to be hard to get compliance to let you throw a ton of data on it.
iPads got handed out to the seniors today, not jealou...oh who am i kidding, i'd love a free iPad.
I have doubts about the utility of pulling up public filings on an iPad to spread comps. There's no way this is faster than just pulling up the filings on your second monitor.
I've never seen a summer analyst make use of an iPad at work.
no use.
except for slacking
I rarely use mine besides watching videos or reading wsj when I'm traveling. I wouldn't bring it to work as a summer analyst.
Checking emails at home or bringing home some PDFs to read is about the only utility you will get out of it
Honestly, I have no business use for my tablet. $500 movie viewing device for long plane rides.
An Iphone will do most of what you need.
I've never seen a Summer Analyst bring an iPad to work. I would wait and see what other SAs are doing before you whip yours out.
Agreed. You're just asking for someone to judge you by wielding an iPad on the first day.
One of our directors reads all presentations on his iPad when he is out of the office (so literally all the time) and he writes his mark ups with his iPad. It's nearly impossible to read his comments/changes, hence it's just a pain in the ass..
On the other side, we have a director that makes his comments on the iPad and they are even more legible than his hand-written markups. I think they have a software that reads handwriting though and helps smooth things out.
Regardless, I wouldn't be bringing one it as an SA.
As an SA, you want to be noticed, not seen. You want people to talk about your big brain, not the fact that you scrub filings on your iPad.
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