Is 2 Weeks Notice Too Little?
So I recently accepted another position and am starting my new job in a few weeks. I currently work at a mom and pop development shop who have about 250 employees, 95% of the employees are construction workers and property managers. I am the only financial analyst in the company.
I gave them 3 weeks notice and they are still super pissed at me. They even had the audacity to ask me to ask my new employer if they could wait 4 months for me to start. I understand it can be a burden to find good talent quickly, but am I crazy for thinking that 3 weeks notice is more than enough?
They also say that I should have told them months ago that I was going to start looking for jobs. I felt like that would be risking my job security and ultimately risking my income to provide for my family. Am I crazy for thinking this?
Anyone else had employers try to guilt them and manipulate them to try to get more time out of them?
They're idiots. Don't listen to them. If they give you shit, take PTO for the remainder of the time.
Tell them to suck a d1ck man. Can't even believe you're contemplating this. You get 0 days notice when the pink slip comes
Don't overthink it. 2 weeks is standard. 3 is extra. 4 months is laughable.
You are correct in that telling them months ago you were looking for jobs would have put you at risk. The second they found the correct candidate, you would have become expendable.
Be polite, serve your 2-3 weeks, and move on
And while its almost always a good idea to give at least the standard of 2 weeks, that is already a courtesy. The minimum notice an at-will employee owes is zero - the same notice an employer is required to give you before you're terminated.
Asking for 4 months is BS. I'm just curious if these people actually believe their own nonsense and legitimately feel entitled to that, or if they just layer on the guilt to see what they can get from it.
Just to echo what has already been said: two weeks is standard, anything more is gravy.
The real estate industry operates on a need basis, for better or worse. When the work load decreases, people are sent packing. When the work load increases, the need for an immediate team members occurs.
Another way to look at this is when they look to back fill your position, do you think they would have a neutral outlook on two candidates, one who can begin working in the next few weeks and the other in four months? I doubt it.
Their reaction says more about them and their leadership, or lack thereof, than anything. If you're that large of a firm, losing one finance team member should not be that disruptive to your business.
Be polite, work with them to transition what you can, move on and caution others.
Who the fuck gives a 4 month notice?
Yeah I mean when I took the job I currently have, I gave my notice, and because the firm was a client of the firm I was leaving, they negotiated a one month 'transition' period for me. But that was even considered extremely long. The reality is that the firm you're with shouldn't want someone with one foot out the door training the new people or taking on new projects (for obvious reasons), so really all you're doing is handing off things you're currently working on/debriefing with people who should be responsible for training/hiring/taking your workflow going forward. From my experience, I was basically getting paid for a month to just sit in a chair and answer questions. I probably did - honestly - 5 hours of real work in that month. I took like 2 hour lunches, I actually took a ciesta one time during that month just to see what it felt like, I spent probably 5 hours a week during that month googling random shit/looking at funny youtube videos.
So there's really no reason they should want you there for 4 months - if they're that incompetent that it would take them that long to hire someone in this market then they have a larger problem.
Bottom line, give the 2-3 weeks and then cut bait.
which market are you in? I can see if they really depended on you as the sole analyst, they would be pissed but thats life. Depending on the market, they can find a replacement for you in 2-3 weeks, dont stress it and do whatever you can to stay on good terms.
I see it as 2 weeks is standard, 4 weeks if you really really like the employer and don't want to burn any bridges (ie want to work there again in the future).
Absolutely ridiculous. As always, the mental exercise should be to reverse the positions. I can guarantee you these guys weren't giving you 4 months notice that they were going to let you go.
Says a lot about the quality of leadership at that firm.
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