Is it possible to start over?

Network Network Network...., having two consecutive undergrads on your resume will look weird

Dude your all over the place. Didn't you say you needed no help.. 3.5 GPA?

imo this is definitely NOT the route you want to go down - it would look strange and there are far better alternatives. First obviously, is networking. This is the best and cheapest option, but it takes a ton of work and depending how many years out you are, you may be getting too old for an analyst position at any respectable bank.. Another alternative is getting into a target B school; if your current job experience isnt too horrible, as long as you ace your GMATs, write a kick ass essay and interview well you could contend for a target b school spot. Good luck!

Unsure if you are a troll. You keep starting new threads and they aren't getting any better.

If you get a second degree, you'll look like you failed the first time around.... in this industry there is always one shot.. dont fuck it up.

take IB modeling classes, do rotational programs, wtv will gear you up better for the jobs at hand!... AS THE OTHER GUY SAID NETWORK NETWORK NETWORK! i too am not a target school grad, im only 22, you still got a shot if you execute everything from this point on correctly.

I'm starting to really think this guy is a troll :-p If so we just got pwnt.

You have a pretty unique gift for turning people against you, so if your attempt at networking on WSO and your general disposition is any indication of how insufferable you must be in real life, I would strongly recommend you re-take your undergrad at a prestigious school and avoid networking at all costs.

Ok, all joking aside, let me put on my Dr. Phil hat and give a run-down on what I think is holding you back. You might not like all of what I have to say, but if I'm close on my hunch (and I think I am) as long as you consider the points I'm making it should help you get over some of your hang-ups:

The story you tell is that you come from a pretty humble background, high likelihood your parents are 1st generation immigrants, Asian... possibly Eastern European. While your parents are not well off, they place a lot of weight on education and quantifying your value (IQ tests, debate, etc), but ultimately were not able to pay your way through a top Canadian school (UofT/Queen's/McGill) without a full ride scholarship (which you didn't get), even though you were likely accepted to those universities.

You've graduated from Bishops and are now working a $35-50k/year gig, which is fine aside from the fact that you feel it's beneath you, but most importantly it doesn't have the prestige and pay-grade to compensate for your humble upbringing. You want to enter finance, but you have this big chip on your shoulder because you perceive the people in the industry as the silver spoon yielding ingrates whose parents could afford to pay their way through universities you couldn't afford to attend. So now you have a hard time putting on a humble front and use your decade old IQ scores and 5 year old high school accomplishments as a crutch any time you think people are putting you down.

Close? I'm generally pretty good at reading people, but it's either spot on or way off. Anyway, going forward I suggest you try networking with an open mind. Try to see the "end" (having some banker douche help get you a job) and let that justify the "means" (having to grin and bear it through all the foreplay). You need to realize what people are looking for when they go out of their way to help someone... that's a real intangible, the warm-fuzzies from being someone's lifeline has nothing to do with a free lunch, I'll tell you that much.

In any case, if you don't get into finance, it wouldn't be your brains that hold you back... it's how well you can spot what makes other people tick.

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Really, I think you should start looking more towards focusing on interpersonal skills than your GPA, Internships, etc. I'm not on WS, and I may never be there, but at least I know I can get on an anonymous message board and not make myself out to be a completely pompous asshole.

If this is how you come off over the internet I highly advise you start working on your personality and character.

Look I'm trying to help. When I told you your story of being the most intelligent person on Earth and only having a 3.5 GPA doesn't make any sense, trust me, it DOESN'T. But no your ego get's in the way and make up some BS about 1% intelligence, 99% hard work., and that GPA is not equal to intelligence.. common man.. you aren't fooling no one.. i don't want to get in a debate with you, and since you are the king of debate in canada I will lay off this topic.

Now about school: You didn't go to the best schools in Ontario, okay, deal with it. Not everyone gets the opportunity to go to the best schools in Canada, but if your a good student it shouldn't really matter in the long-run. if your motivated, you'll push hard in school. You know what you could of done which you didn't? Be the #1 student at your so called -non- target school. If the school was so bad, why aren't you the #1 student.. i purposely declined offers from the best schools because i knew i would be AVERAGE in them.. i went to a school where i am top 10 in a class of 1000 students.. im playing it smart.. you should of done the same man!! that way when RBC/TD/CIBC comes to your school, which they do, you'd be #1 candidate in their eyes.. how come you didn't play it like this? was RBC not good enough for you? only want to work at GS hotshot?

Now about your social skills: You seem to lack experience with people already working on Bay Street, my suggestion is to contact alumni and speak to them !!! You didn't participate in any finance clubs/gigs/events when you were at school, and now you feel entitled to invite people to lunch from gs/ms?? Are you even ready for an informational interview? You sure you won't blurt out MENSA or DEBATE CHAMP when you meet them?

Also the people who work on Bay Street do not walk like 'yo I bank $150k, and im the smartest guy in the planet because im beta gamma sigma and mensa'... finance companies want to recruit people who are humble.. not the person thinking he is the next soros/buffet!!

You should also realize that the majority of finance students have huge egos. I'm not going to lie, I have an ego, but you need to hide it AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

Look I'm not the brightest person, but when you type in grammar that I do not understand, I just think your a tool. Common, are you seriously going to talk about philosophical interpretations of banking questioning your existence on planet Earth? Even if your last name was 'Socrates', I would still think your tooling/trolling.

quote ''Just because my opinions differ from an entire herd full of negative-mob-mentality does not mean that my philosophical interpretations of banking will not manifest, nor does it bring into question my very existence.''

Honestly good luck.. many people lack the brains for finance, you say you have it, so what are you waiting for? You just need to contact alumni, be humble and the jobs will come.. bay street are only interested if 1) they'll enjoy spending 12 hours a day with you, 2) you can get the work done fast you seem ready for 2), so work on 1).