@neoking you stated that you're from the Dallas area and are going to graduate from the Top 1% of your class. I believe it's safe to assume you'll get into McCombs. If you get into Business Honors...even better.

If you have a strong academic background I'm hoping you applied to schools outside the state of Texas. Even with UT's pedigree its not viewed the same as UPenn, Michigan, etc. However should you choose UT you have a better chance at IB with a boutique (some only recruit at UT in the entire state of Texas).

In short, I would apply to the top business programs that have a pipeline into IB otherwise if you settle on Texas focus on the boutique firms and you should be positioned well if you have what they're looking for.

Good Luck

 

Thanks! But if someone doesn't get accepted into the Business Honors Program but can still attend McCombs, is it futile looking for a career in investment banking (regardless of location)?

 
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@neoking" I can't say for a fact that it is futile for any location (not just Texas) but you would be in a better position than others in Texas if you go to McCombs vs Bauer, Hankamer, Mays, etc. It all boils down to if you get into an IB feeder school or not. If you don't and you get into UT, its not impossible but it will be difficult compared to if you had gone to Wharton as an example.

I hope I didn't discourage you but if I were you I would weigh several options such as IB feeder, cost, location, etc and then make a decision. Even if you end up in Houston for I-Banking I don't see why you can't transition to NYC (not sure but don't see why this wouldn't be an option).

user39 posted this on a topic about transfer friendly schools...may want to get his/her thoughts:

"I can vouch for UT Austin. Goldman, Wells Fargo, Evercore, Greenhill, RBC, and a couple other boutiques recruit for NY IB slots right on campus through the business school's OCR system (you have to be a business major/preferably finance obviously). Placement was crazy good this year and there are several going to Goldman NY full-time and as summer interns (as well as at Wells, Evercore, and Greenhill). A few others backdoored their way into MS and JPM. That said, the vast majority prefer to bank in Houston, and UT absolutely crushes every other Texas school for Houston IB placement. Every Houston bank recruits like half their analysts from UT, and I know very few guys who actually went through IB recruiting without holding offers at the end.

The other good thing is that a lot of McCombs (that's the b-school) kids prefer to do consulting/corp. fin./accounting instead, so the competition isn't as intense as at other target schools. Overall, UT is the best place if you want to bank in Houston, and the best place in Texas if you want to bank in NY. Most McCombs kids do legitimately prefer Houston though, because compensation is the same (~$120-150 1st year salary + bonus), but the cost of living is unfathomably cheaper. I know guys who pocket 80% of their salary each month as pure profit. Plus no state income tax (!). Only downside is most of your exit opps will also happen to be in Houston, so it really does need to be something you're interested in for the long term."

 

UT has a massive pipeline into houston IB for the natural resources group. If that's what you want to do then mccombs is the best for it. NY is harder to get to through mccombs but people do it.

 

All the BHP kids are gungho about getting a ib/consulting gig so naturally they will have taken the necessary steps to stand out as candidates and as a result are likely to get picked for an ib interview over a non-bhp kid who more likely than not doesn't care about ib or just frankly doesn't know what it is. As long as you have the grades, internship, clubs, and network I don't see why you shouldn't get interviews. I switched to mccombs my jr. yr, knew zero about ib, and still landed ib interviews as a non-bhp student.

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wow this guy sounds exactly like me, but I promise you right now this isn't me as another poster lol.

But basically (since I asked similar stuff), what I gather is that McCombs is decent, and BHP is top-notch. You have to be the best at McCombs, but from there, you can still get into BB, M/B/B, etc. Most of the jobs are in Texas, but I mean even if you hate Texas, just stick it out for 6-7 years (including undergrad), then get a top MBA and move elsewhere. Plus UT would have a good socal scene, etc. as well, which is a huge plus. Others can chime in though b/c I'm still not an expert on my own school yet (sad huh)

 

Hey hookemhorns

I know your a fellow longhorn so I thought you might like to know that I just spoke with a recruiter from New York with Citi and she said that UT Austin was the second most represnted school for there summer analysts

 

BY being in the BHP program, a student takes special classes which are meant to be more difficult and advanced. These student are the best of the best....kind of like GT or PRE-AP classes in high school and their major is Business Honors. The FAP is a program were any finance major can apply and run a special budget of the school. It is hard to get into and a student lasts for a year and a half.

 

Lots of UT-Austin kids in my analyst class. 3 of them are in Houston doing oil/gas, a couple more got S&T and IBD gigs in NYC. Compared to a lot of other semi-targets, it's got an unbelievable college atmosphere. Great weather, beautiful girls, amazing sports, and Austin is a helluva a college town. Could do a lot worse than UT, especially if you get into BHP.

 

texas is one of the best schools to go to if you want to have a balance between a great college experience and banking ops as well. the business school really preps students well for ibd, especially with the FAP program. in my opinion, the FAP tag is even stronger than BHP when it comes to recruiting for banks. some companies actually ask the head of FAP directly for recommended recruits.

i'm not sure about international experience, other than several students that have done internships abroad in london, singapore, and hk. i feel that UT does not have a high degree of direct international recruiting exposure, however you can definitely get there on your own if you make the effort.

as far as placement goes, if you are interested in houston offices, UT is hands down the place to go. it blows away rice and a&m in terms of preparation for the position, esp since those regional offices are looking for technical skills. for ny, there are clear opportunities with each bank as well. UT's alumni base in NY is huge, and UT regularly places 1-2 kids in each BB each year. Same for boutiques like Lazard, Greenhill, Evercore, Blackstone, etc as well.

overall, texas will give you not only a great college experience with its parties and live music, but you'll also find plenty of opportunities.

 

Career Services does a great job with placement. BHP and a top GPA, and you can write your ticket to anywhere. If you want to stay in Texas, there are a ton of energy-related i-Banking jobs (including trading floors) in Houston.

Also agree 100% with the statements about Austin - great town, college atmosphere, three lakes, sixth street, good looking women, you name it... the hardest part will be for you to keep from being distracted and keep your GPA up.

I don't know about Chicago recruiting, though - are you trying to trade ags and softs? Otherwise Chicago seems a little show from an i-Banking standpoint.

 

UT Austin feeds well into most of the big investment banks and also has a superabundance of very attractive women. I work in DFW but am all about the weekend excursions to Austin.

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McCombs is great. As long as you stay focused and keep your GPA up you should be fine. If you do well enough after your freshman year, consider applying to BHP. Extremely prestigious - I've known people who have gotten great ibd interviews just based off the fact that they're in BHP. Look to join a finance org as well (UIA, USIT, UCF, etc.) I'm more partial to UIA because nearly all of their executive members have gone into IBD. Hook 'em!

 

Hook 'em and congrats on getting into McCombs! Echoing the others, try to get into BHP if you can. It's a wonderful program. You can't go wrong with either accounting or finance, but finance seems to have more interesting options within, like energy finance. Granted, you could take energy courses even if you're not a finance major. Definitely try for FAP or any of the other student orgs. The alumni network is also unparalleled, so you're in a great place.

Enjoy your summer and good luck with freshman year!

 

change your picture and get a new account...

no need to double major - waste of time. Time better spent elsewhere. and please work on your social skills while in college...thats probably your #1 weakness right now if I had to take a guess.

presentation skills, confidence, charisma, getting laid... all that should be your focus

workout...get somewhat jacked...go to pool parties

 

^ I second what zeroblued said. Don't double major, it really doesn't add any value. Instead you should take GPA boosting classes. Go finance instead of accounting. FAP gives you crazy connections. Work on your social skills because whether you like it or not your interviewer will look at you and give you the offer based on if they like your or not.

 
WSO429:

I would do finance personally. You'll be wasting a year doing the MPA program if you want to do investmenr banking. Don't know many MPA kids in banking here in houston.

Probably self selecting though - most MPA kids aim for Big4 / Corpfin.
Currently: future neurologist, current psychotherapist Previously: investor relations (top consulting firm), M&A consulting (Big 4), M&A banking (MM)
 

Two people I went to high school with are in the 5 year mpa program at McCombs took the Investment Banking route. One them had so many credits and managed to finish the program in 4 years of them did local boutique IB internships their second year summer, Citi Houston IBD their third summer, and got GS NY FT.

The other one took the normal 5 year route. Second year summer did Wealth Management at Merrill Lynch, then third year summer did Financial Reporting at GS NY, and now will be doing Greenhill or Jefferies (not sure) IBD Houston for his"fourth summer".

The extra year is what you make of it. Personally I think its great because it can work in your favor as an extra summer internship to build up experience to break into a great bank like the latter person mentioned above (notice the progression from BO to FO slowly).

So all in all IB is definitely possible out of MPA. According to them the BB offices (Houston at least) seem to have a more considerate GPA cutoff since they are MPA students. Also keep in mind with most of the MPA kids aiming for Big 4//MBB/F500 that leaves less "competition" for IB from the MPA pool, but then again you will be vying for spots against the BHP guys.

 

^ good point. For some reason I was thinking of the 1-year MPA program, not the 5-year.

Currently: future neurologist, current psychotherapist Previously: investor relations (top consulting firm), M&A consulting (Big 4), M&A banking (MM)
 

UT is recruited. Aren't you in McCombs? Just go to the Ford Career Center and ask. Don't you have friends? You should have been overhearing about their interviews.

 
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UT is recruited. Aren't you in McCombs? Just go to the Ford Career Center and ask. Don't you have friends? You should have been overhearing about their interviews.

Agreed. From my knowledge UT has a great contact at JPM in NY

 

The different between a 3.8 and a 3.9 is marginal. If it's within that range, they will look for other factors to differentiate.

Banking > VC > Tech PE; PM me if you would like any advice I'm happy to help
 

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