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A shipbuilding company, by nature, should have a lot of debt on their balance sheet. This is mainly because of the low turnover of their expensive product. For that reason, all other things being equal, I would say that the shipbuilding company would have a higher EV/EBITDA because its EV will be heavily weighted by its debt.

 

its not a target, but im sure there are some alumni from your school in banking, so take a look at your alumni database and network all you can. being out of school actually makes it a little tougher to break into the field since you cant go through the standard analyst/associate recruiting process, but there are always firms hiring (not necessarily the BBs and elite boutiques, but occasionally some decent firms), so always keeps your eyes and ears open for opportunities. good luck!

 

I would network hard, BB certified will not change your pay, and Temple is definitely a non-target. But if you have any alums in finance they will probably be willing to help. You may have to look hard or into the higher levels.

Reality hits you hard, bro...
 

Haha Temple is definitely a club in SF, and sorry to say, but Temple isn't even a semi-Target. It all depends on what you've been doing since you've been out of school. If you work in corp. dev. somewhere, I'd recommend going to B-school and then move to an associate role in IB. It'll be tough to start as an analyst since practically all banks recruit straight out of undergrad. Best of luck.

 
brisbane:
Several schools not in the top 10 are legitimate targets (Cornell/Brown/Dartmouth/Berkeley/Michigan, for example). Don't make such a stupid generalization.

yeah, but those schools ARE in the 10-30 range and thus are generally targeted.

so i think what he is saying is very accurate, actually.

 

No, they're full-on targets, as in heavily recruited (Ross and Haas at UMich and UCB). A semi-target -- which is a stupid term anyways, but since she used it -- to me would be a Northwestern, Georgetown or UCLA.

In any case, my point is that "targetness" and ranking aren't directly correlated. Hell, Amherst, Williams and Morehouse are targets, too. This is a big "Top 10" we're building here.

 
brisbane:
No, they're full-on targets, as in heavily recruited (Ross and Haas at UMich and UCB). A semi-target -- which is a stupid term anyways, but since she used it -- to me would be a Northwestern, Georgetown or UCLA.

In any case, my point is that "targetness" and ranking aren't directly correlated. Hell, Amherst, Williams and Morehouse are targets, too. This is a big "Top 10" we're building here.

seriously? we're going to get our panties in a wad over semantics?

every single school you listed above is well recruited by BBs and MMs, and they are all in the top 30.

the other poster was right- once you get out there past 35-40, recruiting gets tougher.

 

How about this, there are schools that BB IBD directly goes to for OCR. Then there are schools that have MM OCR. Then there are schools which are well knows, top 30-40, lot of alumni, sports schools/whatever, that you have to network your way into IB, but you go to a well known school so it isn't impossible and then you have small, generally not well known places where you have to network and fight to get interviews from.

 

I am not trying to be mean, but I know 2 kids from my high school who are going to Temple. One was actually retarded (medically) and the other was a class clown who took special math classes and I am pretty sure he had lower than the nation-wide average SAT score of 1,000 (math and verbal).

Temple University is at the extreme end of the "non-target" spectrum.

-------------------------------------------------- "Whenever I'm about to do something, I think, 'Would an idiot do that?' And if they would, I do NOT do that thing." -Dwight Schrute, "The Office"-
 
BespokeAnalyst2010:
I am not trying to be mean, but I know 2 kids from my high school who are going to Temple. One was actually retarded (medically) and the other was a class clown who took special math classes and I am pretty sure he had lower than the nation-wide average SAT score of 1,000 (math and verbal).

Temple University is at the extreme end of the "non-target" spectrum.

rofl

post of the year right here

 
BespokeAnalyst2010:
I am not trying to be mean, but I know 2 kids from my high school who are going to Temple. One was actually retarded (medically) and the other was a class clown who took special math classes and I am pretty sure he had lower than the nation-wide average SAT score of 1,000 (math and verbal).

Temple University is at the extreme end of the "non-target" spectrum.

Temple is a low end semi-target for the NBA developmental league

haha this thread is great

 

University of Michigan - Ross School of Business is definitely a target school.

However, University of Michigan - LS&A and Engineering schools are semi-target.

-------------------------------------------------- "Whenever I'm about to do something, I think, 'Would an idiot do that?' And if they would, I do NOT do that thing." -Dwight Schrute, "The Office"-
 

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