Is the $35/hr part time job worth taking?
Folks, a little advice needed here. I've finally accumulated enough courage to kiss goodbye to the mediocre 9-5 office life, preferably and hopefully forever. I used to question myself a lot for the reason why I hate staying in a cubicle and working for someone so much. I have to admit sometimes it did give me that "loser" feel. But finally, I have to give myself up to the reality: I just cannot stand it and I don't see any pleasant rewards awaiting for my suffering.
Instead I have a start-up (very early stage) which I want to work on afterwards. While developing the business plans and searching for partners, I need to maintain my income. So I figured to take a relatively decent paying part-time and found there are some opportunities around. Of course strip clubs should not be an option. The one I'm particularly eyeing is to work at a piano bar or lounge in manhattan as a "hostess" or a "floor lady" as they call it. The job requires serving drinks (bottles) while sitting and chatting up with the customers who are predominantly international men working for big corporates, banks and so in manhattan. Clientele is very good. Start pay is around $35/hr.
any thought on jobs like this? This is certainly not the kind of job I will be proud of but not the kind to make me feel bad, either.
This was a long post so let me see if I understand. You don't like working for someone else in a "9-5" office gig basically because it was beneath you. You are considering working for someone else in a role as 'eye candy' and drink server. Am I close?
almost. just some temp gig so I can have free time to work on my start-up.
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I knew once "midtowngal" started posting that it was really a guy all along. No surprises here.
I don't understand.
what about this? http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/fbh/3394838660.html
[quote=captainkoolaid]what about this? http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/fbh/3394838660.html[/quote]
Thanks, my intuition tells me that one is gonna be ugly. really.
I would say to go for the hostess gig.
-low stress -you can make money at night while you focus on your start up during the day -good networking opportunity [more likely than not you will chat up one of these rich dudes who will take an interest
I've been to a few places here and there, in other countries and to places that shouldn't be their own country, and every time I see a "foor girl" serving bottles, "sitting and chatting with the clientele," who so happen to be "international men working for big corporates," I always get the thought that she's a certain type of girl...
Don't get me wrong, I know you're a nice, well-intentioned girl. Hey, if it pays $35/hour, that's more than a lot of people in finance make. Go for it.
Thanks for the comment, FSC. No, I don't feel insulted at all and I enjoyed reading your posts on the board. You are one of them who talk no shit. Yeah, the image is like that, I know what you mean. But I guess it is you living your life, not others. I have to tell you I still remember how I was blown away by all the attention I got when I achieved the #1 status in a club like that after paying attention and using effective sales techniques. What makes me happy is that at least it is not Flashdancers.
If my friend paid you $3 million, would you sleep with him?
You just don't get it, sir. what I enjoy is being like a social butterfly while making quick money. The customers are all helplessly stressed out and they need some lookers to soothe them with their softness and intelligence. It asks for fabulous people skills which I cannot get enough of practicing. I do enjoy this kind of work. If you don't konw what these bars are like, I will upload a video for you later.
Making 120k/year for talking to people and looking hot has appeal to you? Say it ain't so.
There's something like this in Asia, but for guys. I forget what it's called, but girls will pay money to hang out with guys at bars...SMH
In all honesty, you have a very immature view of the floor girl world. The businesses will never tell you to go home with the men if they offer you. But think about it for a minute. How many men are willing to pay $500 for a $50 bottle of liquor and more money to talk to a girl and then go home to masturbate? Then think about how many men would return to this so-called establishment if the women didn't go home with them for $400-$500-$1000?
These places are very popular in flushing and very commonly used by many bankers in the city. Essentially, here's how it works in flushing. You buy a bottle for about $250, rent a karaoke room for about $40/hr, hire girls to talk to you for about $30/hr each. The girls get half of the talk rate. Not that much money. While the rest goes to the establishment. You can't live off of $15/hr especially when you get no business from 12-6pm and very little clientele at night. So guess what most girls do? They'll go to a hotel/home with you for an hour of dessert for about $200-300. That's pretty much how it works. Men wouldn't come back to those places if it wasn't a hangout for hookers.
Erase everything you've read about men who just want companionship or a shrink so to speak. That's not going to happen. Sure there may be men who go just to have a good time and not take a girl home. But those men haven't taken the leap into the whole escort/hooker world.
I suggest you do some research online about escorts and hookers. You'll find that there are tons, I mean TONS of women who will have sex for about $300/hr in NYC.
So my question is.... if these men can get companionship and sex for $300/hr, why in the hell would they spend $500 on bottle service and then go on to tip you?
Cmon, OP knows exactly what will happen. This is a hooker thread...
Thank you, StrongMan. It is all about the clientele. Let's use Tokyo as an example: there are three levels of establishments in this business. The lowest level would be the small clubs in Kabukicho, the famous red district. Clientele are almost all average joes as they call "salary man". The second are the ones in Roppongi, the international hub. clientele vary from wealthy business owners to foreign bankers and local mafias. And you could only find the highest level in Ginza, the most expensive district. clientele are mostly influential people, some politicians. The Ginza ones have the most strict rules regarding any kind of harassment. But in general, this is a business to please men only. So all I need to do is to go to the ones similar to the Ginza clubs in Manhattan if I could.
So folks, I want to clarify a bit why I have to leave the office. I would say I'm dysfunctional in the office even though some people may disagree. I hate working on all the basic softwares especially like excel, I think I look retarded whenver working on those. I've been developing a depression along the way and I found all my life turns to be more and more mediocre. Nothing good happens to improve my financial status and even my dating life. So I start missing my old days, the carefree days. I used to work at a club in Ginza of Tokyo Japan as the hostess lady. The club was like an exclusive membership club. I would count those days a peak of my life. Not only I got well paid, but I was trained to be a classy, sophisticated lady who knows how to deal with a man with certain social status. It is not like everyday I could meet famous guys from CEO of Fortune 500, Wall Street bankers on business trip or celebs in showbiz, but it was close. Eye-opening. and I admit, as a girl, I enjoyed the attention I got from all the successful men at the moment, regardless if it was delusional. I felt like a star.
No worries, call me. I like Japanese av gals.
If you can't even do your work properly at a 9-5 job you aren't going to make it in business...
Also, I've been to more than my fair share of these "exclusive" Ginza clubs (let me tell you, they honestly aren't that exclusive, especially if you're a foreigner) and you are neither classy, nor sophisticated or intelligent. You are just eye candy.
I guess if you couldn't hack it in the office, you can always get paid to whack it for some guy in some club.
Ever thought of cam shows? You never have to touch or see anyone and you'll make more money than that for basically just doing what you probably do a lot of nights anyways.
That would be the route i'd take if I was a semi-attractive female.
Thanks for the advice. That is very different from the level and content I am seeking . When I was hostessing, through talking and interacting with customers, I felt I was a therapist to some extent, so to give myself moral boost. Most importantly, I need to be around people, a lot of different people every single day.
If its an upscale place- than just try it and find out. Maybe it'll be fun easy money. Maybe it'll be even worse with old men pawing at you. Maybe it'll suck but you'll meet a handsome billionaire who marries you. But either way- a part time night job isn't going to define you for the rest of you life, right?
+1. Glad to hear this from you. But for the marring handsome billionaire part, let's just leave it to younger girls who still have their Prince Charming dreams. (I know how far the real dating world is from a fancy tale, appreciate the good wish though)
You should look into investor relations/biz dev stuff
Why don't you try part-time at some industry association/non-for-profit related to your start-up? I was planning something similar for next year. Btw, are you really from Japan? Even the most respected mamasans there won't do business by merely 'sitting and talking'.
Yeah I know. I was being kind of flippant. But my point was that she has nothing to lose.
Dignity is worthless in and of itself. You can't eat dignity. You can't even use it as collateral for a loan.
You'll find the shame is like the pain, you only feel it once.
Where's OP? Damn, she just took my heart...and my money
OP is back, folks! Took two days off to do due diligence and shop for professional attire aka gowns.
Thanks for caring, everyone. I will keep looking into this kind of jobs while getting myself look-ready. This kind of clubs all require you to doll up even for the interviews. I've been going "freestyle" for quite long: no make up, no hair set, no nothing. But to be pro, you need to be a good eyecandy first. That's #1 rule. I understand what everyone just told me here and as I said, this kind of jobs is certainly not the kind to make me proud. However, I echo the thought "you can't eat dignity". I'm still a kinda pretentious and fun loving female who likes to enjoy the best of life my youth could hand to me, especially being around the people who are on the relatively upper levels of the food chain. One thing I want to point out, excessive dignity makes not so much sense in this particular case. Back to my hostessing days overseas, I got asked out for date by a lot of hot (young) guys who were either locals graduated from their top 3 universities or western bankers who worked for the local BB branches. During those days, I went to a lot of Michelin restaurants, dressed in my best outfits and was pampered like some hot shit, Those are the days I really enjoyed and I don't think anyone should blame a young girl displaying some superficiality, On the contrary, after I left behind my hostess experiment due to its non-legit nature, my life hasn't been filled with anything hot any more. Same plain outfits, same people around, same fruitless work. The best part is that I have never again been asked out by anyone whom I would consider a hot shot, making my life not so tiny miserable. I may look like bitching but the dating life seems more and more important to me because finally I will have to settle down with a particular one. How are you gonna ask me to carefully choose when the good pool has almost disappeared from my lfe? The end, to all prudes who think dignity means everything, I want to warn you based on my relatively heavy experience, most men are all visual animals, particularly the "successful" men.
Gotta love this. Thanks for sharing, grandma.
I hope you realize the guys who are asking you out at hostess clubs you probably don't want to settle down with...
Also, honestly, if you aren't getting dates on your own, that just means you aren't as desirable as you thought.
It's easy getting laid at a brothel, not so easy at a museum.
Reading this makes me very happy that I have sons instead of daughters. I can't even imagine my reaction if I had a daughter who became a "ho"stess.
Don't generalize Sir, you are gonna upset a lot of ladies. Are you sure the OP is female? Are you sure he/she is not someone from rehab, with some clearly demonstrated self-esteem issues? This is so sick.
My rage and disbelief over OP's post and responses is huge, but you, sir, disappointed me a little, so I threw monkey poop at you, for the very first time ever.
To put my foot in my mouth in a little further, anybody considering taking a job like the OP mentioned, do not do it. I'd rather be poor with dignity, than "rich" with none.
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