Jobs you can do until you’re 75

Title says it all. Maybe not the right sub-forum on this website but HF careers seem to be/are pretty short relatively speaking. I have family members who work standard professional jobs (doctors, lawyers, etc.) and they can practice into their 60’s and 70’s


Are there similar paths in finance? How about the world in general today? Seems like everything is changing so rapidly

 

You definitely see PE shops where there are some old guys (sometimes called “Partner Emeritus”) who show up a couple times a quarter and probably still get a fuckton of carry. 

Plenty of family office types are up there as well, especially if it’s part their money

And of course you could always try and be Warren Buffett. Still crushing it in his 80s

 

PE has had lack of upward mobility for years now. It's what you get when you have overly saturated field with founders and senior level partners only looking to hold on for carry. The usual route to becoming an MD now in the PE fund is to bounce and start your own fund. 

 

Interned at a FO like that through connections. Old guys pushing mid-upper 60's. Smartest people I've ever met, still do calculations on paper instead of excel. They usually bring in younger people (30's and 40's) every now and then for operational expertise in the industries they own companies in. They work a lot but have tremendous amount of freedom and all wear a bunch of different hats in different industries like real estate, energy, consumer products. Sounds like the dream to be able to get all the interesting aspects of business along with being able to work in both equity and debt.

 

We talking any level of gov't here? I always figured being a senator was the best position to be in. No one knows what you do all day and every 6 years you usually have a pretty good chance at getting reelected. 

 

There are certainly similar paths in finance where you can work until you are in your 60's and 70's. Basically, as long as you enjoy your job, you can work in it easily until your 70's. You see, for some people their job is stressful, for others, they genuinely enjoy their job. Take for example a hedge fund manager. There are hedge fund managers that are stressed out badly, but others who see their job as a fun game that they enjoy. So their job can actually make them healthier. Basically, anyone who loves their job can work on it forever because for them their job is also their leisure and they are having fun at it. So really, if you enjoy your job, you can work into your 60's and 70's in any area of finance whether it's being a hedge fund manager, a floor trader, a venture capital executive, a financial advisor, anything. I see this pattern over and over again in every sector. If you enjoy your job, you will last at it. It's not so much the job itself, it's whether the person enjoys doing it or not.  

 

Yes. You can head up an asset management company. 

Have an amazing track record and reputation until you're about 50 years old. Then, hand off all work and decisions to juniors. Next, tell clients that you're still the genius creating all the alpha and continue to "work" for another 30 years while actually doing jack shit.

 
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Yes. You can head up an asset management company

Have an amazing track record and reputation until you're about 50 years old. Then, hand off all work and decisions to juniors. Next, tell clients that you're still the genius creating all the alpha and continue to "work" for another 30 years while actually doing jack shit.

Kind of like some HF Founders... there are only twenty four hours in a day and you are not researching/making trading or portfolio decisions when you are dining at Le Bernardin or playing tennis six times a week or randomly flying out on the gulf stream to heliski somewhere. But your name is on the door and so you’ll get the credit. 

I used to do Asia-Pacific PE (kind of like FoF). Now I do something else but happy to try and answer questions on that stuff.
 

I have a couple MDs who I think are around late 60s early 70s. They aren't as aggressively out in the market as the younger ones, but rather continue to do good business off of the relationships they've built over the last four to five decades. They seem to have chiller lives than other MDs and are pretty comfortable knowing that they are winding down business and may call it quits sometime kinda soon. I don't know how normal this is, but they seem to like it.

Dayman?
 

happens in PWM all the time. if you have junior partners ready to take the reins when you step away, you don't ever need to retire until health forces you to. I had an office colleague in his 80s, was probably making 4-500k near the end and working 3 days a week (his business partner was clearing $1mm easily, so it's not like the senior was hoarding everything).

https://richmond.com/business/two-colleagues-at-davenport-co-mark-65-ye…

 

Asset Allocator. Most people on this board have no idea...

I used to do Asia-Pacific PE (kind of like FoF). Now I do something else but happy to try and answer questions on that stuff.
 

If strictly in finance, a partner role in PE or being an absolute rainmaker just by your presence in a meeting at a bank would probably be the top two in my mind. 

Those I've seen who carry jobs into their 70s tend to be sole proprietors of small to medium-sized businesses in which they hold a significant if not controlling stake.

 

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