Group Selection J.P. Morgan

I accepted a generalist IBD Summer analyst offer at JPM in NYC. Now I am looking into which group I should go into. I was hoping someone could tell me which groups to look at and which to avoid with the ultimate goal being a PE exit.

From what I've gathered top groups are:
1. HC
2. M&A
3. FSG/TMT (tie)

heard mixed reviews of LevFin (no modeling) and FIG (possibly get pigeontoed)

Any information would be great - thank you in advance.

 

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I talked a couple of people in FIG last semester. Definitely a top group with a fair account of modeling. They do all of their stuff in house so no outsourcing to M&A. Culture is good, rarely stayed past 11 and usually get at least one day of the weekend off (according to my former SA friend). Best group for PE is definitely M&A though. HC is very very good, probably the top coverage group. TMT broke up into T and M&T. I'd say they are behind FSG, FIG, and HC for PE placement though.

 

Summered at JPM last summer and can confirm that although FIG is a solid group, it was one of the least coveted groups due to poor group culture, an oversized team (25 SAs), unmeaningful work (lots of regulatory filings), and the lowest return rate firm wide.

 

What are people's thoughts on opportunities to switch groups/banks after the summer? Say you're at an ms/JPM type place and are a top performer in a mid-tier group - what type of opportunities are there at Evercore/laz/Moelis level boutiques? If you want to rerecruit, when do you typically need to make that decision and start reaching out to friends/contacts at those banks?

 

Thanks for this comment What I heard from a senior at JP london was that FSG was very into modelling, and dcm as well. SF&PI is structured finance and not PE.

quite surprising isn t it ?

 

ya...I left out Latin American Advisory because I figured knowing Spanish would probably be important but I could be wrong. FIG, M&A and Healthcare are all ones I am considering among others. What turns me off of FIG though is that I've heard the skills you learn there very specific to FIG. Can anyone back me up on that? Financial Sponsors interests me too but would now be a bad time for that? Thanks for the input

 
tndisco:
ya...I left out Latin American Advisory because I figured knowing Spanish would probably be important but I could be wrong. FIG, M&A and Healthcare are all ones I am considering among others. What turns me off of FIG though is that I've heard the skills you learn there very specific to FIG. Can anyone back me up on that? Financial Sponsors interests me too but would now be a bad time for that? Thanks for the input

i've heard that several times from people who considered FIG.. FIG people claim that if they can value something w/ no pre-financing CF (a financial), they can value anything

 

If you don't speak spanish LatAm isn't a choice. Yes, valuation skills in FIG are largely proprietary. And yes, the sponsors space is pretty much dead. Some sponsors have portfolio companies that are distressed and may be looking to do something, but any refinancing it happens mostly with the capital markets guys as they are generally debt for debt deals.

 
MDR:
If you don't speak spanish LatAm isn't a choice. Yes, valuation skills in FIG are largely proprietary. And yes, the sponsors space is pretty much dead. Some sponsors have portfolio companies that are distressed and may be looking to do something, but any refinancing it happens mostly with the capital markets guys as they are generally debt for debt deals.

unless you speak portuguese.. they were getting significant dealflow in Brazil

 

I heard from people working at the firm that they are scaling this back. I've heard this from a couple analysts working in NYC and regionals. Then again, it could be just an analyst rumor floating around.

 

This one:

Buffett sat at it AND it belonged to JP Morgan himself. You can't go wrong.

source:

 

OK so now its been a few more days and still nothing. Has any other summers at jpm nyc heard anything?

Question to everyone:

would it be appropriate to email HR and just ask?

Do I have to worry about annoying HR?

 
megafundguy:
What do you guys think are good groups at JPM?

Let me know and i'll tell you how right you are.

by the way, jpm levfin is utter crap and doesn't model, this board is really dumb.

um, and what makes you think we care about your assessment of JPM groups? Thanks for putting yourself on a pedestal by proclaiming "i'll tell you how right you are".

Noone cares about what you think. Stop wasting our time and piss the fuck off.

 

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