J.P. Morgan - Online Numerical Reasoning test (London, UK)

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Hi everyone,

I just received an email to complete an online numerical reasoning test for J.P. Morgan after applying to their London, UK office.

a) Is everyone automatically invited to do this test or has the application pool been given a first cut already?

b) What % of people do they cut with this?

c) Any advice/resources? Has anyone done JPM's test?

I am from North America, so I have never had to do anything like this before. Any advice is appreciated!

Comments (26)

Nov 22, 2011

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1) Depends on bank

2) 90%

c) SHL

Don't be a little bitch, these are easy.

Nov 22, 2011

SHL tests are absurdly simple.

That said practise will easily put you in the top 1%. Underestimate these are your peril.

At a company I worked for though, the recent grads were talking about their marks on the numeracy, the marks ranged from 40 to 73, I was sitting on 97, so subtracted 30 from my answer to avoid being the socially awkward penguin.

Read from that what you will, that either im some arrogant jumpstart, or I know how t do these tests really really well.

Nov 22, 2011

trazer985, you're not alone, now prop trading shop tests are different beast.

Nov 22, 2011

the online numeracy ones are easy, the on hte phone ones are easy when written on a screen, but nasty on the phone. Practise with someone reading problems back to you over the phone for these, it really is very very different.

Nov 22, 2011

a) Yes

b) Not much, just people who can't be bothered to complete them

c) They are not hard. However if you want to practice just apply to as many banks as you can (London office) and practice with the tests of the banks you don't care about since they are all the same

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Nov 22, 2011

If it's SHL they're easy going. PSL is a bit harder. Just my feeling. Didn't apply at JPM so don't know which one they're using. Follow the advice of Maximus if you don't feel prepped well. Further I recommend:

http://www.shldirect.com/practice_tests.html http://www.kent.ac.uk/careers/psychotests.htm
http://www.aptigenius.com/ http://www.practiceaptitudetests.com/

This should do the trick. Just get a grasp on timing.

Btw. how come that you can apply the regular way? German office is not hiring this year besides giving some former interns full time offers (started a pretty strict rule: no intern, not eligible to apply).

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Nov 22, 2011

Everyone gets invited to do them this year. They are SHL tests and very easy. If you get to AC, you will have to repeat the test (20 in 20).

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Nov 22, 2011

I applied to J.P. Morgan London, UK office as well for an analyst summer intern. Numerical test is fairly easy but I did not manage to complete the whole test in time. I missed 3 questions, but had all other questions answered correctly I think. Never practiced before, I wanted to be really sure about the answers. Only advise I can give you is to watch your time! I think practice is not necessary as it is about logical reasoning and knowing high school math. This is difficult to improve by doing more tests. You just need some luck.
Given the fact that they don't give that many offers to people who use the online application and I did not complete the numerical test, I guess I am doomed

Nov 22, 2011
Wer:

I applied to J.P. Morgan London, UK office as well for an analyst summer intern. Numerical test is fairly easy but I did not manage to complete the whole test in time. I missed 3 questions, but had all other questions answered correctly I think. Never practiced before, I wanted to be really sure about the answers. Only advise I can give you is to watch your time! I think practice is not necessary as it is about logical reasoning and knowing high school math. This is difficult to improve by doing more tests. You just need some luck.
Given the fact that they don't give that many offers to people who use the online application and I did not complete the numerical test, I guess I am doomed

Completely disagree. You do improve a lot doing more tests, not by learning answers, but by gaining time. The logic is always the same, so while it might take you 10s the first and second time, it takes 0.1 after doing 10 tests. I started out missing 3-4 questions like you and in the last tests I always have about 1-2 minutes to spare and I'm sure about all the answers. You shouldn't have any problems if you answered 17 correctly, but I'd rather answer all of them, it's not that much extra work.

Nov 22, 2011
Maximus Decimus Meridius:
Wer:

I applied to J.P. Morgan London, UK office as well for an analyst summer intern. Numerical test is fairly easy but I did not manage to complete the whole test in time. I missed 3 questions, but had all other questions answered correctly I think. Never practiced before, I wanted to be really sure about the answers. Only advise I can give you is to watch your time! I think practice is not necessary as it is about logical reasoning and knowing high school math. This is difficult to improve by doing more tests. You just need some luck.
Given the fact that they don't give that many offers to people who use the online application and I did not complete the numerical test, I guess I am doomed

Completely disagree. You do improve a lot doing more tests, not by learning answers, but by gaining time. The logic is always the same, so while it might take you 10s the first and second time, it takes 0.1 after doing 10 tests. I started out missing 3-4 questions like you and in the last tests I always have about 1-2 minutes to spare and I'm sure about all the answers. You shouldn't have any problems if you answered 17 correctly, but I'd rather answer all of them, it's not that much extra work.

I agree with you that by practicing there could be a gain in time. However, the logic is never the same. Every problem is different and by practicing you will become more comfortable by the way of asking and maybe more self-confident. There might always be a question that you don't completely understand and takes more time to solve correctly compared to practice test questions. If you have solved similar problems before, ofcourse it takes less time. I don't assume all numerical tests are more or less the same, are they?

Nov 22, 2011
Wer:
Maximus Decimus Meridius:
Wer:

I applied to J.P. Morgan London, UK office as well for an analyst summer intern. Numerical test is fairly easy but I did not manage to complete the whole test in time. I missed 3 questions, but had all other questions answered correctly I think. Never practiced before, I wanted to be really sure about the answers. Only advise I can give you is to watch your time! I think practice is not necessary as it is about logical reasoning and knowing high school math. This is difficult to improve by doing more tests. You just need some luck.
Given the fact that they don't give that many offers to people who use the online application and I did not complete the numerical test, I guess I am doomed

Completely disagree. You do improve a lot doing more tests, not by learning answers, but by gaining time. The logic is always the same, so while it might take you 10s the first and second time, it takes 0.1 after doing 10 tests. I started out missing 3-4 questions like you and in the last tests I always have about 1-2 minutes to spare and I'm sure about all the answers. You shouldn't have any problems if you answered 17 correctly, but I'd rather answer all of them, it's not that much extra work.

I agree with you that by practicing there could be a gain in time. However, the logic is never the same. Every problem is different and by practicing you will become more comfortable by the way of asking and maybe more self-confident. There might always be a question that you don't completely understand and takes more time to solve correctly compared to practice test questions. If you have solved similar problems before, ofcourse it takes less time. I don't assume all numerical tests are more or less the same, are they?

Yes. I remember once taking two in the same day and seeing significant overlap in the questions, the majority are provided by SHL and so you're likely to see the same style of question, if not the same question, from test to test.

Nov 23, 2011

With SHL's, sometimes if you're lucky, the practice questions for one firm are the real questions for another.

Just Do It

Nov 26, 2011

Where can you find a firm's practice tests?

Nov 26, 2011

RBS talentQ is a bitch.

Nov 17, 2012

If you struggle you will definitely benefit from practicing, SHL tests suck.

Dec 6, 2012

To improve your numerical ability, try the game or test on calculationrankings.co

Dec 6, 2012

Can't comment on the books - not really my style - but for the tests I did anyway there was a lot of stuff from the Integrated Reasoning part of the GMAT so I would give that a look. If you just look at SHL in general you should be fine, theres a lot of free practice tests floating around. The tests aren't really that hard.

S&T ones on the hand were completely different, a good bit harder and different at each place.

Dec 6, 2012

you are most definitely not allowed to use a calculator if they give you a test during an interview

happy to give advice; no asking for referrals please

Dec 6, 2012
matayo:

you are most definitely not allowed to use a calculator if they give you a test during an interview

shut up. you haven't a clue what you're on about.

these things really aren't a big deal. banks will sit you in a room with the other candidates that day, and leave you to it, you could cheat if you really wanted by just chatting to guys in the room. they don't seem to take it too seriously. i did have some people (more than one occasion, more than one bank) bring up my high scores (self high-five), but it's not going to swing a vote for you in your favour much.

Dec 6, 2012

then your experience is irregular

banks generally don't administer test- OP is mostly talking about a proprietary trading firm, or something in markets (i could very well be wrong)
they don't let you use a calculator

happy to give advice; no asking for referrals please

Dec 6, 2012
matayo:

then your experience is irregular

banks generally don't administer test- OP is mostly talking about a proprietary trading firm, or something in markets (i could very well be wrong)

they don't let you use a calculator

Nope, you're just living in a world where the USA is the only country on the map. We're talking Europe here, buddy.

Dec 6, 2012

Is this for the UK? Yes, you are definitely allowed a calculator in the retake at the office (assuming you mean the SHL ones?). As the purpose of these is to verify your score, they would want to mimic the conditions.

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