JP Morgan or Rothschild
Hi,
I got entry-level M&A offers from Rothschild and JP Morgan in London. I was hoping you could advise me which is a better bet for entering Business School/ future jobs.
Furthermore, I am considering TMT but would appreciate any advice you may have regarding other industry groups.
Thanks for your help!
Cant go wrong. Its a boutique v BB argument. Both are exceptionally strong in European M&A.
I would personally take Rothschild but as has been said, either way you're very well set-up.
Look for a fit. In terms of experience both will give you enough. In terms of prestige, I think JPM is still better. You also get many opportunities with JPM (beauty of too big too fail).
uh Rothschild hands down. They have been around for far longer than JP Morgan and own a lot more than you think. They are the secret IBank behind a lot of deals.
^^^^ill second that
I think with something like that it might come down to corporate culture. If you were US I'd go with JPM but Rothschild is big in Europe, and one of the oldest/most storied banks in the world. So go with the people you like the best, or where you'll have the best chance of getting on the group you want.
I can't speak to Rothschild but one thing to note is that at JPM there is a lot of mobility. Want to change offices, groups, or sides of the bank? VERY easy to do.
Wow i thought this would be a no brainer... Just ask yourself this:
Which would more impress the chick at the bar - saying that you work at some random boutique named Rothschild or saying that you work at a global investment bank named J.P. Morgan & Co ?
I think they are equally recognizable in London - can't go wrong with Rothschild in Europe though...
I really hope this point was a joke in so so many ways.
LMFAO@ trowing
Doesn't matter how you get the girl, if you get her then it's all fair game. I once convinced a drunk chick that I was an astronaut and that had her panties drop as if gravity changed from 9.81 to 50.
Dunno about Europe but in the US, Rothschild sounds like a lower tier boutique that the kids at lower tier schools (USC, non-Ross Michigan, UCLA etc.) go to. Unless you plan on staying in London forever, i'd say go for JP Morgan.
Whatever you choose, keep in mind that:
Ivy league + top BB bank = mad pussy.
rothschild is alot older, its jewish, which makes it better as a bank.
vs some massive american bank lulz.
Is this for JPM Cazenove or JPM Europe? If it's JPM Caze, I'd definitely take it over Rothschild
What's the difference? I was under the impression Cazenove is the 'brand name' for JPM's UK practice.
I will say this again, Rothschild has far and away much more connection to EVERYTHING in the market than JPM. Although JPM is a favored bank of the FED and US govnt, Rothschild owns sooooo many assets around the world you would shit yourself. Now they may not own it under the Rothschild name but as a subsidiary etc.
Also to the poster above who said it was a no brainer, I would much rather tell the chick in the bar that I dont work in Ibanking at all because I dont want someone to like me because I "supposedly" have money and prestige. Second I would much rather say I work for an I bank that is over 200 years old, has weatherd way more booms and busts than JP Morgan and basically went underground in the last 50 years because they realized that having their name tattoed all over the place is not smart business.
JPM is like the reality show winner of I Banking. They can only thrive because people know their name or make money for that matter.
And PS FUCK Blythe Masters. Some people on this forum will get that.
Blind leading the blind here. Don't listen to the Rothschild conspiracy dude and ask people at your school and the industry. WSO is very US oriented and is comprised of many college kids so definitely only use his site to confirm not make a decision
Seriously Blastoise? lol I am not saying Rothschild is any conspiracy but least you think Rothschild doesnt have its fingers in a lot of business's you would be very very wrong.
Look there is a reason that almost no one knows the name of physical commodity trading firms like Glencore (recent IPO) and Trafigura. Even people within finance dont know those firms. Its smart business not to have your name all over everything.
Here is just their investment bank http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N_M_Rothschild_%26_Sons
There is a reason you never hear about their holding company (Rothschild Continuation Holdings AG)
I dont think JPM makes wine or mustard like the Rothschild brand does.
Don't believe me about them selling all their major assets and donating all their art? Here you go
"Since the end of the 19th century, the family has taken a low-key public profile, donating many of their most famous estates, as well as vast quantities of art, to charity, keeping full anonymity about the size of their fortunes, and eschewing conspicuous displays of wealth.[32] The family once had one of the largest private art collections in the world, and a significant proportion of the art in the world's public museums are Rothschild donations which were sometimes, in the family tradition of discretion, donated anonymously.[33"
JPM cannot compete with this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family
and FYI blastoise, I am jewish I think i know a little bit about this. So no conspiracy here just reality.
Blastoise you really have no clue. I think you are the blind leading the blind. They have so many family members connected to every different type of asset. There is also a reason they normally do not run for public office, they dont want their name out there. They can easily throw their money around behind the scenes.
Just think this family has over 200 years of compound interest on their money. How much freaking money do you think they have? Seriously kid you have no idea.
And how exactly do the Rothschilds' wine and mustard brands affect your two year analyst stint at the Investment Bank?
Meph, it doesnt. I was just trying to point out that Rothschild is not just investment banking. They own a lot whereas JPM is no where close to them. Rothschild will most likely be around the next 100 years where I think JPM will go under or get bought out in our life time and cease to exist.
who let the jeff rense listening/ufo searching/loonie toon crew onto the board?
I have no idea who owns more wine and mustard, but I know that JPM and Rothschild both have strong brands in Europe, but JPM is stronger on a global basis.
Pedo you have no idea what your talking about. You can say all the bs you want but i have never listened to jeff rense or anybody of that ilk.
I am just pointing out that the more impotant bank is Rothschild who has a lot more going on than JPM. JPM will go bankrupt and get bought out just like most other Ibanks have done in the last 200 years whereas Rothschild is still here and has investments in many other business's unlike JPM who just owns a US bank and some commercial property.
Again read my posts and you will realize i am only dealing with facts not conspiracy theories. This is what happens when individuals do not understand something they resort to name calling defensive tactics.
I would rather work for Rothschild 1000 - 1 over JPM
OP please ignore prodigyofzen and get some info from your coworkers and friends to substantiate rumors
How did you get offers right now? Its little over a month to go before the new class comes in at Rothschild and groups and stuff have already been sorted.
You DO NOT get to choose groups at Rothschild, they choose you. From what I know TMT already has 3 incoming Analysts this year.
I'd take JPM if you're looking at US B - Schools down the line.
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