Late sleepers are more intelligent?

Ran across an article saying that people in their 20's who sleep later on average are smarter than those who go to bed early. What are your guys thoughts?

Very Dull (IQ 125)
Weekday: 12:29 A.M.-7:52 A.M.
Weekend: 1:44 A.M.-11:07 A.M.

Link to the articles:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200911/in…

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/opinion/westview…

 
<span class=keyword_link><a href=/resources/skills/trading-investing/arbitrage target=_blank>ArbitRAGE</a></span>.:
As for me:

weekend (excluding Sunday): 4am- 11:30am weekday (including Sunday): 2am - 7:30am/ 8:30am

Do I get a MENSA award?

you and me both

“I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me.” - Malone
 

Spurious correlation? Statistical significance vs. practical significance? Population statistics vs. sample statistics (sometimes there might be a correlation between two variables in a sample, even though there's no correlation between them in a population)?

 

Most likely people with high iq have jobs that allow them a little flexibility/don't require them to punch their time card at a precise time. Also, people in their 20's probably have hard time going to bed by 10 pm and waking up at 5 am on the regular, like older people can, mainly due to late-night social life. So it would be safe to assume that all younger people would prefer a schedule that allows them to come to work later, leave later, and stay out later, but the people with lower IQ don't generally have their pick of careers to where they dictate what time they are gonna show up, and thus they take the jobs that require them to be at work by 6-7 am. There's no f-ing way I would take a job requiring me to be at work that early (regularly), not even for a significant pay increase.

More is good, all is better
 
Best Response
Argonaut:
Most likely people with high iq have jobs that allow them a little flexibility/don't require them to punch their time card at a precise time. Also, people in their 20's probably have hard time going to bed by 10 pm and waking up at 5 am on the regular, like older people can, mainly due to late-night social life. So it would be safe to assume that all younger people would prefer a schedule that allows them to come to work later, leave later, and stay out later, but the people with lower IQ don't generally have their pick of careers to where they dictate what time they are gonna show up, and thus they take the jobs that require them to be at work by 6-7 am. There's no f-ing way I would take a job requiring me to be at work that early (regularly), not even for a significant pay increase.

Equity derivatives trading - 6:30 am start, you have to love it to do it day in day out lol

 
derivstrading:
Argonaut:
Most likely people with high iq have jobs that allow them a little flexibility/don't require them to punch their time card at a precise time. Also, people in their 20's probably have hard time going to bed by 10 pm and waking up at 5 am on the regular, like older people can, mainly due to late-night social life. So it would be safe to assume that all younger people would prefer a schedule that allows them to come to work later, leave later, and stay out later, but the people with lower IQ don't generally have their pick of careers to where they dictate what time they are gonna show up, and thus they take the jobs that require them to be at work by 6-7 am. There's no f-ing way I would take a job requiring me to be at work that early (regularly), not even for a significant pay increase.

Equity derivatives trading - 6:30 am start, you have to love it to do it day in day out lol

You must have inevitably attained killer work ethic and discipline through the process.

I win here, I win there...
 

Wow, this is great to hear! And all this time, I thought my partying ways would end up hampering my GPA for this MBA program. For me, it's usually about 2 on weekdays, where i'm up by about 7:30 and on weekends, I usually sleep around the same time, but don't wake up before 10:30.

 

Another probable correlation is that smarter people go to school at that age, and the not so smart people go to stock shelves at walmart. I highly doubt that any of my coworkers that have to get up at 6 to get their kids ready for school are in any way dumb.

More is good, all is better
 

to all the posters i know that this doesn't obviously make you smart by sleeping later but its definitely an interesting observation / study and has been repeated many times (try googling it). If you guys skimmed the articles they note that most of it is probably do to social/job factors and that people with less IQ are more likely to be out working a job during daytime (earlier) or have less active social lives.

Take it like a nice Snapple fact.

“I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me.” - Malone
 

You must be pretty dumb...

To be fair I woke up at 2pm yesterday, so I must be a complete retard.

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 

Damn, you guys sleep in late during the week.

weekday: 2am - 6am weekend: 4am - 12pm

The data is obvious. A 21 year old is much smarter than a 29 year old (test taking wise). There's a certain point where your mind just goes down hill.

 

Y'all have some fucked up sleep schedules

I'm usually: 12:00 AM - 7:30 AM on weekdays 2:00 AM - 10:00 AM on weekends (Sometimes I'll stay out later than 2 but I'll always wake up around the same time)

College was basically the same thing

 

Dolores esse repellat cupiditate dicta. Eum libero nesciunt molestiae qui. Quia molestiae qui animi.

Voluptas nobis enim soluta voluptatem ea. Et magnam molestias est ipsam veniam pariatur. Eveniet ipsa illo voluptas neque at nesciunt. Est laborum labore aliquam quisquam quia labore rem. Velit ipsam sed quo ea dicta aut. Similique nulla quaerat quas occaecati in.

I do not think that there is any other quality so essential to success of any kind as the quality of perseverance. It overcomes almost everything, even nature. -John D. Rockefeller
 

Quo facilis aut consequatur voluptatem. Labore voluptatibus iure corrupti. Sint ut tempore rerum possimus. Aut asperiores illum quod doloremque assumenda et dolorem. Labore est vel alias est sunt voluptate consequuntur.

Necessitatibus autem ut nemo. Vel nihil quo rerum voluptate nihil placeat. Earum quos consequuntur aspernatur. Molestiae ut et rerum porro aut veritatis quia. Blanditiis sit ut assumenda qui. Eligendi qui sed et assumenda sit rem ea. Illum ea rerum velit accusantium illum exercitationem.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Career Advancement Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Goldman Sachs 19 98.8%
  • Harris Williams & Co. New 98.3%
  • Lazard Freres 02 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 03 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (19) $385
  • Associates (87) $260
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (14) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (66) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (205) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (146) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
3
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
4
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
5
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
6
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
7
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
8
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
9
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.8
10
Linda Abraham's picture
Linda Abraham
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”