Dude next to me answers every "how's it going" with some variation of "you know how it is; just living the dream, man". Little background; He's vegan and almost sounds like the Dude in his laid back nonchalant manner. I know it's standard corporate generic robot response, but holy crap its starting to irk me hearing it at least 10 times a day. Anyone have any other anecdotal corporate salutations that irrationally irritate them? Or not. I just needed to vent.
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It's a fairly common response among disenfranchised bankers. "Good, Good" is another one that in my view has the implication of cancelling out and being sarcastic.
I answer "how's it going" or "how are you" in one of three ways:
living the dream is a good one
I guess it could be worse. I have to call a contact at another firm almost daily and every time I call the guy, after hello I offer the standard courtesy how's its going before I segue into whatever I'm calling about.
It throws him off every time. Sometimes he stammers and then he'll stop and ponder how he's doing "...uhh...I...umm...I... I'm pretty good" with a degree of surprise; like he just realized at that moment he is in fact doing good. It cracks me up so I do it intentionally now. I'm trying to think of ways to vary it up and catch him off guard some more.
Maybe he's not American. I've noticed foreigners doing that because they're not used to the "How's it going?" question. They take it literally.
that's so true. my PM asks me how I am doing every morning and I'm like wtf will it ever stop?
I hear you, but the guy is 100% American.
If my MD asks: "Doing well, how about yourself?" If a fellow analyst asks: "Pretty shit man, fuck this"
When I was an analyst, none of us ever even bothered asking each other because we already knew what the answer was.
It irks me too, so I just respond with a "hello" since "how's it going" is just a greeting, not an actual question, in the US.
The one that really gets me is "got any plans for this weekend". It seems like everyone who asks that never does anything, so when you respond in kind, it ends the exchange with an awkward "nothing" or "I have no plans".
Interesting. I've noticed the opposite, someone usually ask about weekend plans as a segue to tell you about their weekend plans
I had an associate when I was in banking who always did this. It was extremely annoying to say the least.
Lol at the "got any plans for the weekend" crowd. Completely agree with you. In banking my response to this was always "I'll be up here in my cubicle, living the dream - how about you?". That's too snarky in PE though, so I usually just say it's been a long week and I look forward to relaxing and leisurely preparing for Monday's investment committee.
Hahahahaha. There was actually an SVP at my bank who would ask this one analyst every Friday what the analyst was doing knowing full well that the SVP had assigned the analyst a crap ton of work an hour earlier. The analyst would always respond, "Just spending the weekend here living the dream. Might get a little crazy and let my hair down with some Excel." The SVP still asked every Friday...
I once worked with a "case of the Mondays" girl. She'd greet anyone (from the MDs on down) with a variation of "Hey, buttercup!", "How you doin', sunshine?" or "Hi, sweetie!" She also wasn't a sweet old secretary that gives out candy and gossips with you, but a recent graduate with a couple of years of work experience.
It weirded me out at first, but I eventually got used to it.
I say living the dream.
Now I see I sound like a douche.
Haha. To be honest, I'm the one being the douche. He doesn't even know he's annoying me and he's just being friendly. I'm just a grumpy assh*le..... Switching it up every now and then wouldn't hurt though.
I find myself getting caught in the same 'greeting response' like 'living the dream.' Then I switch it up and then get caught in something else.
Go to response regardless of situation for me is simply "good". In return I expect the same answer as well as opposed to a full list of issues.
Hahaha well i appreciate shit like that in the office. Theres a guy who does the same thing and i eavesdrop his conversations because it brings light to a serious atmosphere
Sounds better than, "Another day in paradise!"
Also, "Well, any day you wake up and your elbows don't hit wood is a good day!"
Right. If being dead is your closest comparison point, it's time for a change.
Why is this so funny to me.
"Just living the dream". Really? Well alrighty then.
I worked elsewhere where a principal used to respond like that to me. It bugged me then too because it came across to me as dismissive. Because if I were genuinely trying to initiate a conversation, how am I supposed to follow that up? "Oh really? Wow tell me more about how awesome your life is." Or "Really? Mines been pretty shit." smile
What a world
I've stopped idle chit chat altogether. I'll say good morning or good afternoon, but never ask "how are you?" unless I have something specific. if I want to know something, I'll make it specific. like "hey, I know your son was sick the other day, how's he doing?" or "how was your vacation?"
asking someone "how are you?" on a daily basis is just your way of saying "I'm dull, have nothing to talk about, but want to make it seem like I give a fuck about you."
communication is important, but only with substance
up to VP level everyone just about gives the same response to how's it going - "living the dream...liv-ing the dreeeeam"
After that, Directors / MD's are 'oh great, how are you?' then I naturally respond with a blanket 'good good'.
I say "God bless you" at the end of most phone conversations with juniors, because sometimes I'm a passive aggressive atheist.
nice
funny
"Oh ya know, another day another dollar" was beaten to absolute death by a VP I worked with over the summer.
"Living the dream" (Originally Posted: 02/27/2009)
I've heard this phrase about a million times since I was a junior in college and in my time in banking.
What is your definition of living the dream?
My definition of living the dream is two brazilian babes wrapped around me in a hammock on a white sand beach in Brazil.
Travel around the world and do as I please.
Live in San Francisco for 6 months: train and complete a tri-athalon Live in Hawaii for 6-12 months: learn to surf Live in France for 2 years: learn to speak French, cook, and paint Live in Italy for a year: see every inch of Rome, Florence, Venice, and Milan Island hop in Greece for an entire spring and summer Safari in Africa Spend an entire winter skiing in Colorado/Utah Spend a summer partying Miami Wind surf in Spain, party in Monaco Watch a Super Bowl from the sidelines, next to the players, coaches, and trainers Mardi Gras in Louisiana Carnivale in Brazil Climb Mt Everest Party with corrupt Russian billionaires See ancient ruins throughout Europe, Egypt, Mexico, Turkey Participate in a major jewel/art/bank heist See the Northern Lights Get dropped into a remote location and have to survive on my own Drive my Ferrari from LA to Las Vegas, top speed at least a quarter of the way Attend a major film premier, film festival Own and magazine Tour a Columbian cocaine facility Live in a castle Party at the Playboy mansion Build and own something in NYC as amazing as Grand Central Station Learn to sail Drive a Formula 1 car
I think that'll do it for now.
Amazing list.
+100000000000 My new roommate owns a real estate consulting business in NYC (small but successful) and currently has an apartment in Miami, NYC, and Puerto Rico, where he bounces around every month. Not bad at 35, was a former GS employee and quit and vowed never to enter a corporate office again....this is living the life!
awesome list! How am I the first to SB you? This is gold man, like one of the bets posts I've seen.
I'm going to pull an Ed Norton from "The Italian Job" and mirror elan's list every step of the way. Jesus, that is an exemplum of living the good life.
A buddy of mine in Paris did the Russian billionaire thing (it was Russian mafia apparently). I think pulling a heist would be pretty tits, especially if I can do it like in Heat and still be able to finish off the rest of that list.
I struggle to imagine how you can have two brazilian babes wrapped around you unless you have two penises.
actually, i do have two penises.
The world has changed. And we must change with it.
add Tomatia in Spain, Base jumping, and being in ESPN's top 10 countdown.
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, cigar in one hand, bourbon in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO! What a ride!'
When you're on your deathbed, the only regrets you'll have are the risks you didn't take. Trust me, you're not going to lay there and wish you'd spent more time in your fucking cubicle.
Some highlights of my journey thus far:
*Surviving a Styx missile attack in the middle of the Arabian desert. *Spending six months on the lam in a Mexican fishing village. (don't ask) *Owning a bar on a tiny island in the West Pacific where the ratio of women to men was 7:1. *Being sued for $14 million when I was 25. *Breaking the longest-running trading record in the history of my firm and walking out a week later.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg. You don't get any do-overs in life. The thing that scares the shit out of me is that my life is probably more than half over and there is still so much to be done. If you're not living the dream, what the fuck are you waiting for?
That is some of the most baller shit I have ever read.
"My life is probably more than half over"
I assumed you were fairly young, are you older than I thought are you (still) living dangerously?
Travel the world. Period. So much out there...I've seen lots of Europe/Middle East, and I still think there is so much more to see.
check this out: http://www.100goals100weeks.com/
from the same guy who sold his ENTIRE life: http://www.alife4sale.com/
I would fking LOVE to do what he did. Thats my dream.
Good concept. Horrible blog.
"Party with corrupt Russian billionaires"
Hilarious!
By the way, I have actually done that before.
...on multiple occasions
Thats a hell of a list.
Months / Description / Cost
9 San Fran + Triathalon $45,000--- $5K/month to live & train 24 Prepare for and climb Everest $240,000--- 8K/month live & prepare, 50K transport, equip, sherpa 12 Live in Hawaii; learn to surf $60,000--- 5K/month 24 Live in France; learn to speak French, cook, and paint $144,000--- 6K/month 18 Live in Italy; see every inch of Rome, Florence, Venice, and Milan $108,000--- 6K/month 6 Island hop in Greece $48,000--- 8K/month 4 Ski all winter in Colorado and Utah $32,000--- 8K/month 4 Party in Miami $32,000--- 8K/month 1 Wind surf in Spain, party in Monaco $8,000--- 8K/month 0.5 Party with Russian billionaires $20,000--- 10K/week 0.5 Attend Super Bowl on the sideline $250,000--- peddle influence, could be much less, could prob buy a field pass for 50-100K off a press member, or pay off security with 20K 0.5 Mardi Gras $5,000--- 2500/week 0.5 Carnivale in Brazil $6,000--- 2000/week, 2000 transport 0.5 Tour cocaine facility in Columbia/Bolivia/Peru $100,000--- peddle influence + transport 3 See ancient ruins in Mexico, Turkey, Egypt and Europe $24,000--- 8K/month 12 Orchestrate and execute jewel/art/bank heist $250,000--- equip, plan, transport 24 Optional 24 months in prison until you bribe or escape... +1 for prison escape $250,000--- peddle influence, orchestrate escape 0.5 See northern lights $7,500--- transport/lodging 2 Survive in remote locale for 1-2 weeks + preparation $16,000--- 6K/month live & prepare, 4K transport 0.25 Attend major film festival/premier $50,000--- peddle influence, trans/lodging 0.25 Attend a party at the Playboy mansion $50,000--- peddle influence 6 Learn to sail $72,000--- 6K/month + rent yacht + lessons 6 Learn to and dive a Formula 1 car $72,000--- 6K month, live + 36K get access to car and lessons
158.5 months, costing $1,889,500
Now we're assuming the 250K to escape prison, and we're not assuming the $5M windfall from the jewel/art/bank heist. This list is VERY doable.
-Living inside of cell A4 in Excel
I gather you're having a slow day.
Awesome list elan, and that math is inspiring Marcus. Looking forward to that should make anything else bearable
or did, anyway:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2275504.ece
What a way to go.
mmm some good ideas here. Forgot to get fked up the arse by someone besides your MD
No Homo?
No wonder i cant get anyone to spread fckin comps for my retail portfolio company, everyone is on WSO jerking off in fantasy land. JK
The most difficult aspect of living the dream is trying to balance the reality of time and money youth provides for lots of free time but no cash and by the time you have the cash to do all the aforementioned cool shit you have a wife and kids and no time
Wish i had a larger trust fund or impregnated an heiress in college Everyone have a good weekend
I'll be 40 in a couple months, so that (together with my continued consumption of vast Nordic lakes of grain alcohol) makes me secure in the assumption that I'm on the down slope. Of course, I wasn't sure I'd ever see 30, so you never know.
Some would say I still live dangerously, albeit toned-down quite a bit since becoming a dad. Even that, though, was a little off the reservation as we adopted two boys from an orphanage in the Siberian arctic. I've lived in the Middle-Eastern desert in August when it was 135 degrees outside and I would take that any day over the Arctic Circle in February. It hurts to even breathe in those conditions.
All of us would do well to ask ourselves, "If my life was a book, would anyone be willing to read it?" It is important to know your motivation for working on the Street.
For 95% of the young people working on Wall Street, it is all about security. By spending an obscene amount of money on the right school, they bought their desk on the Street and now feel entitled to make 6 figures a year until they go spend another obscene amount of money on grad school so that they can repeat the process at a higher level. The current crisis has shaken this model up a bit, but the basics are the same. There is no personal risk involved as long as you stick to the formula, and you may eventually wind up with a nice house in the Hamptons and a family that enjoys it but views you with casual contempt because of the choices you made to provide said house for them.
I went a different route. I basically viewed the Street as nothing more than a means to an end; the world's largest ATM machine that I could use to bankroll the things that I really wanted to do in life. To that end, I found the jobs that placed me at the greatest amount of personal risk and therefore provided the greatest upside.
I was fired often, and blew myself up several times. There were times that I was so broke that if it cost a nickel to take a shit, I'd have to throw up. But there were times I rung the cash register, too, and that money enabled me to chase the dream around the globe and make that book worth reading. When I wound up broke again, I'd come back to the Street and make more.
For me, it wasn't about security, it was about audacity. It's not a path I would recommend to any more than the slightest minority of poorly-adjusted malcontents. But it worked for me. I've made three fortunes in my life, and lost two of them. I've learned that making the money is the easiest part -- hanging on to it is the tough bit.
On a side note, living a life like this makes you inexplicably appealing to the ladies, regardless of what you look like. A word of caution here - they think they can handle it, but they can't. Women are security-based creatures and even though they may think they're all about living by the seat of their pants, they're not. You will burn through many a relationship if you go down this road. When you finally find a woman that can actually come to grips with your lunacy, lock her down and live happily ever after. If you've done it right, it won't be that much longer anyway!
Stepping down off the soap box now...
man, i wish i could be you...
Why isn't your book on amazon yet?
Just my 2c.
I'm not convinced it's worth reading yet.
Best thread on WSO ever.
It's posts like this that make me come back to this board.
-Build and run a massive corporation that pulls the strings of the government from behind -Take the helm of a country and wage war on other countries that I don't like, or on leaders that I don't like -Things along those lines, while partying at night with hot Russia, Brazilian, Spanish and Korean girls
I think he stole this from W and Cheney.
Did you steal that speech from T. Boone Pickens?
-Spreading comps in excel -Target screens for potential buyside opportunities -financial modeling -drafting offering memorandums -creating management presentations -due diligence -pitchbook creation -valuation analysis -16 hours a day in a cube -weekends at the office
I know you're joking....but I just threw up in my mouth a little....although I do love spreading comps and drafting OMs, thats the best.
King, no need to set your expectations so high. Stop trying so hard to impress us.
Open up my own advisory shop, make lots of money, and donate at least $100 mm (today's value) to my university.
lol. you just want do donate $$ to get the school named after you
I want my name on the building i donated, and have all the kids bow down in front of my golden statue.
Dow is flirting with 6,500 and you all are day dreaming here, go fix the economy so us juniors could get something for FT, pretty please :D
Where I went to school there is a statue of this guy standing tall triumphantly with his hands on his hips, chest puffed out and his shoulders thrown back. Its a favorite spot for pictures of drunken girls that drop to their knees as if they're blowing him.
-Wake up in the morning, get head from an 18 year old -pre-lunch, threesome with 2 superhot 22 year olds -pre-dinner, fuck a 32 year old cougar whose game is as tight as her puss -post-dinner, gang bang (4 hot chicks and me) -before bed, cop some more head from another teenie
how many days has it been since you've seen the outside world (and I don't mean from your MD's office window). I feel ya man. I think I went without any action for 4 straight months after I first started, and by that I mean NO action at all.
-Own my favorite soccer team and win the Champions League.
be the next billy beane, after I marry hayden panettiere
Way to reach for the stars...
pay enough to get the russians to send me into space even though they shut the program down.
If you want to go to space, book your tickets here, only for $200,000.
http://www.virgingalactic.com/booking/
When you come back from space, please do let us know about your experiences.
I thought of this thread today and found it. Decided to bump it. Life's short.
Great thread, Halberstram figuring how long and how expensive all that would be is classic.
Epic thread. I still don't know what I want out of life yet, but when I figure it out, I'm going to run with it.
-Run sub 4 minute mile -Climb Everest
Maybe these would fall more under the category of "killing it"
1) Start a Company, turn it into a multi-billion dollar corporation 2) My name in Forbes Top-10 richest people in the world,
3) Able to give employment to hundreds of thousands of people 4) Work closely on one of the world problems ie. poverty, research for cancer or aids , Global Warming. 5) Get knighted by the Queen. 6) Climb Mount Everest 7) Fly to Moon 8) Meet with Nelson Mandela and Stephan Hawkins 9) Travel the world on my own yatch 10) Own an exotic island.
Amazing
Build a successful business, sell it off, then reinvest the money from selling that off to build an even bigger business. Do this before I hit 27, and then leave company in the hands of my best friend. Join the military, go in to the special ops, do four years and get out. Wage war against criminals and politically corrupt. Take out hostile enemy countries.
Batman fantasy, here I come.
Possibly the best thread I've ever read on any blog.
I stole a part of the first list and added some of my own stuff:
-Travel around the world as many times as I please. -Complete in tri-athalons. -Live in Hawaii for 6-12 months: learn to surf -Live in France for 2 years: learn to speak French, cook, and paint -Live in Italy for a year: see every inch of Rome, Florence, Venice, and Milan -Island hop in Greece for an entire spring and summer -Safari in Africa -Spend an entire winter skiing in Colorado/Utah -Spend a summer partying Miami -Wind surf in Spain, party in Monaco -Watch a Super Bowl from the sidelines, next to the players, coaches, and trainers -Go to the MLB Homerun Derby and All-Star game. - Sit with the stars at the Academy Awards. -Make a top 10 play on ESPN. -Mardi Gras in New Orleans -Carnivale in Brazil -Climb Mt Everest -Party with corrupt Russian billionaires -See ancient ruins throughout Europe, Egypt, Mexico, Turkey -Participate in a major jewel/art/bank heist -See all the wonders of the world. -Get dropped into a remote location and have to survive on my own -Drive my Bugatti from LA to Las Vegas, top speed at least a quarter of the way -Attend the Cannes film festival. -Be a CEO -Tour a Columbian cocaine facility -Live in a castle -Party at the Playboy mansion -Build and own something in NYC as amazing as Grand Central Station -Learn to sail -Drive a Formula 1 car -Shoot a 50 caliber sniper rifle. -Learn to fly, and fly a jet -Write a book. -Wake up the next morning and do it all over again.
Someday I guess.
-Enjoy my job -Live comfortably -Support a good wife and kids - I want a close knit family -My priorities are to buy a Vermont house and beach house so on the weekends I can relax -also so my kids can have places to bring friends
I am not looking for anything crazy out of life...I just want some good money, a job I enjoy, and a happy family
is that to much to ask?
this. this guy here is the only responder in this thread who even mentioned "family." i applaud you man.
as for me, i want to make sure i'm always there for my kids as well and not have them turn into idiots cause their father was never home, off getting kidnapped in some radical islamic town in the middle east.
i hate his ass, but i do like the way donald trump raised his kids - nice, ambitious, hard working, unspoiled. i'd hate to have my kids imitate my lifestyle and end up as paris hilton or god forbid, kim kardashian.
i've slept with enough women in college in my fraternity (SAE anyone??)... i'm 27 right now and i'd love to get engaged some time (will be proposing soon to my gf) to a 24yrp beautiful woman who makes good money (private equity), caring as fuck (come on, who brings home cooked meals to my work place at 3am?), def not a gold digger, and knows her shit. we've been dating since senior year of college and wouldn't trade her for a million hot women or 5/nights a week clubbing and downing vodka and snorting coke off a hooker's leg. If I ever got a networth of over 500 million before age 40 (which is my goal), I'd still stay with her. Except now, i'd probably follow the guy and his wife who traveled around the world in Adventure Capitalist.
I want to be a serial entreprenuer with over 10-20 companies with each company having an exit of $500MM+, one after the other. I want to work my ass off, even when i'm 90 and still kicking ass. I want to have $10 Billion in the bank, enough so that the next few generations wont have to go through the sweat and toil I did, get on Forbes' list of top 10 richest people in the world, innovate something that really changed people's lives (let's face it, nobody's gonna remember who the fuck Steven Cohen was 200 years from now but everyone today remembers Issac Newton).
Mid Life: Run for Senator of VA. Run for President. Become President (and fucking privatize everything; change this damn country to the way i always wanted it). Write a screenplay. Write novels. Write motivational autobiographies. Preside over WW3 if possible. Win WW3. Have sex on Air Force One.
End Life: Have fucking CNN/History Channel/CNBC/other media run special hourly sessions on my life. End it all with a national 21 gun salute when i die and people will all be inspired at what a great fucking president i was.
im serious about this. will be running for virginia senator in a little bit!
Really quite brilliant thread.
For me:
Hopefully make a few million by that time, then the world's my oyster
Travel
Etc.
Edmundo needs some SBs
Grow a sweet beard while in the Peace Corps.
This thread makes me dreamy, then jealous then depressed. Gotta work hard!
SICK thread.
My dream life:
hahahaha
This can't be real life.
Edmundo, I had no idea you were such a baller. I envy you, I just don't have the balls to take those risks with my future.
GET 39 FACEBOOK FRIENDS
haha my dream would be actually to be a MP at a top VC fund, produce a movie, write a book,
Have a Boss house in Cali or NYC, live with the girl I am serious about ( idk but all the girls I date recently is for the pussy, I dont even look at their faces when I ask them out.), travel all of fucking europe in a porche/lambo ( hit up all the clubs, bars in the big cities), actually fucking use my pilot licence ( i have my licence but I never fucking have the time to use it). Create a multi-billion dollar NPO, drive my audi R8 everyday to work.
I dont think I want to ever retire if I work as a MD/MP of a big/medium sized VC and/or be a CEO of a Multi-Bil/Mil NPO My dream involves 1 women though, call me crazy
Eddie, write that book!
Good to see this thread make a comeback. Hard to believe it's almost 3 years old.
^^^^^^ lol
this is my definition:
http://thefastlifestyle.com/
For me it's achieving something significant - not as much about money.
Live in the city, get rich. No summer/vacation houses as I don't like relaxing--I fret when I feel like I'm wasting time and get more enjoyment out of getting anything done than sitting there doing nothing.
My real goal if I get rich enough is to just retire early, get a graduate degree in math/physics, and just do theoretical physics academia for the rest of my life.
"Any better it'd be a sin"
Wanted to hit the flag button and report TFFW (too funny for work).
I need help...
I generally find myself going with, "every day above ground is a good one." It's kind of a catch all: if you're having a good day, it works; if you're having a shit day, it works.
Plus, like mentioned above, unless you have a personal relationship with someone, it's mostly just mindless banter.
Guy at my office says the same thing every morning to everyone who asks, "Blessed by the best on this wonderful morning, how are you"? I want to jump off a bridge every time I hear that.
I think that takes the cake. This sounds like the type of guy if I saw walking down the hallway I would turn the other way
How's it going is the most redundant, retarded, and insincere question out there. I wish people stop fucking asking this question like a fucking robot.
In Icelandic, we don't even have a translation for "Have a nice day!" So I guess I'll be a pretty rude jerk when I move to the USA.
I just give em the 'ol finger guns and walk away without saying anything.
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