Long or Short Mail Order Brides?

I am completely disillusioned with the dating scene here in the states- I think a majority of the girls have a perverted sense of entitlement, and the ones that are actually good looking can basically get away with murder. I also believe I have perhaps discovered an economic rationale for my observations…
I think that women have a much higher opportunity cost because they are laden with so many dating options. The value that women see in their partner must therefore be less than the value that men see in their partner. Imagine a typical couple in any social setting. Now imagine them separating and seeking a date in this setting. It is a certifiable fact that the girl will have a much better chance of getting a date than her partner. I can honestly say that all of my ex-girlfriends would be much more successful finding a date than I would. They were always getting hit on while we were dating, and sometimes guys had the audacity to do it blatantly right in front of me. As an aside I am a decent looking guy, but I am in very good shape. I was usually taken aback when guys much smaller than me would hit on my girlfriend. This is only further evidence of how unevenly balanced the social construction of dating has become.
I understand that Mail Order Bride is a pejorative term so I was hesitant to use it in the title, but any other euphemism would just not fit or receive a suitable number of comments. I am legitimately considering a “tour” to Eastern Europe- Russia and the former satellites- to look for a respectable girl. Does anyone have any firsthand knowledge or know a relative or friend that has actually tried this? Perhaps it is only an anachronism, but is it possible for a girl to be pretty, domestically inclined, intelligent, and actually “cool” without being a bitch or having lived a life of complete debauchery from 20-25? Are you long or short Mail Order Brides?

 

first, you are basically paraphrasing theorems of game with regards to women's dating market value

second, you should not deal with EE broads under any circumstances unless you have the mind and hand of a pimp and have thoroughly mastered using American women as a door mat...chicks from over there are slicker, smarter and born to hustle...thinking that they will act the same way once you've married them/brought them over as they do in the getting your chump ass hooked period, is a surefire recipe to disaster

third, if you want to go the mail order route...go Islamic or Asian, the only chance you have of not getting seriously fucked over long term is by going with a girl from a Patriarchal upbringing who has never been outside of her family's sight and is afraid to stand on her own

remember, any "pay for play" relationship with a woman implies that your ass will pay...thinking a mail order bride will act how you expect her to is a serious mistake...like it or not, this is a slave/master relationship and you better have the stones and the lack of conscience to be cruel and domineering.

in general, i'm long MOBs...but only for those who accept what i've written above to be fact and are ready for a lifetime of control games the likes of which can often bring a very negative ROI.

 

OP you say that there is no women in USA, you would date? And that you have to go another country to find a girl. That is extremism , agree that many girls in USA does not have a good head on her shoulder but many do.

Try to find a good girl in your home town, I am sure there would many good girls around.

 
financialmanagement786:
OP you say that there is no women in USA, you would date? And that you have to go another country to find a girl. That is extremism , agree that many girls in USA does not have a good head on her shoulder but many do.

Try to find a good girl in your home town, I am sure there would many good girls around.

Home town may be a poor choice of words. I'm in a college town (albeit in the midwest), and after spending some time looking on dating sites I'd say less than 5% of the women there meet my very reasonable criteria: Not a creationist, goes to a real school, and no fucking kids. And that's even letting fat chicks and psych majors slide. Filter out those and other red flags like listening to country or rap, or "I just left a long-term relationship" (I'm 21 and the girls I look at are in that range, how fucking long could it have been?), and you're left with just about nothing.
 
obscenity:
financialmanagement786:
OP you say that there is no women in USA, you would date? And that you have to go another country to find a girl. That is extremism , agree that many girls in USA does not have a good head on her shoulder but many do.

Try to find a good girl in your home town, I am sure there would many good girls around.

Home town may be a poor choice of words. I'm in a college town (albeit in the midwest), and after spending some time looking on dating sites I'd say less than 5% of the women there meet my very reasonable criteria: Not a creationist, goes to a real school, and no fucking kids. And that's even letting fat chicks and psych majors slide. Filter out those and other red flags like listening to country or rap, or "I just left a long-term relationship" (I'm 21 and the girls I look at are in that range, how fucking long could it have been?), and you're left with just about nothing.

You are 21? Forget about a long term relationship for a few years, have fun-date short term and wait for the right one!! 21 is too dam young to settle down

 
obscenity:
financialmanagement786:
OP you say that there is no women in USA, you would date? And that you have to go another country to find a girl. That is extremism , agree that many girls in USA does not have a good head on her shoulder but many do.

Try to find a good girl in your home town, I am sure there would many good girls around.

Home town may be a poor choice of words. I'm in a college town (albeit in the midwest), and after spending some time looking on dating sites I'd say less than 5% of the women there meet my very reasonable criteria: Not a creationist, goes to a real school, and no fucking kids. And that's even letting fat chicks and psych majors slide. Filter out those and other red flags like listening to country or rap, or "I just left a long-term relationship" (I'm 21 and the girls I look at are in that range, how fucking long could it have been?), and you're left with just about nothing.

Sounds like wer're in almost the exact same place right now as far as dating goes. I've joined a big online dating site and it seems like only maybe 1 out of 10 girls actually knows what they are doing with their lives. I've actually thought about studying abroad in EE or Russia just to meet some of the women, haha.

"There are only two opinions in this world: Mine and the wrong one." -Jeremy Clarkson
 

Have you considered taking classes at a local university? Maybe graduate level classes in whatever youre interested in? Its my impression that a lot of girls from other countries come here and get masters degrees to compete in the market. One girl I know for instance is doing that, is from a Russian satellite and would be a great catch. Dresses really nice, very feminine compared to the manly, brutish American women, very family oriented. She tells me shed even be ready to settle down now and have a family, and shes only 23.

I think its more risky to go over there than to find the ones that are already here who are trying to achieve something for themselves. Also, the family oriented females are also common in the asian cultures, but there are many sleezey asians, so beware.

If youre really looking for family orientation though, I would sincerely suggest the mormons. Find a good mormon girl. They are just about the best people I have ever known, they dont have poor family who will leach off of you/be a moral drag on your kids, and they are just so nice it makes us all look like asses.

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 
financialmanagement786:
By the way if you wanna settle down, and are determined to get a foreign girl.

Indian girls are pretty cute, educated, good cook, family oriented and have a lot values. Not too difficult to get if you are good looking guy who has a decent career.

They also have a calculator in their mind and can be quite adventurous outside of their community. At least with Russian what you see is what you get...

 
financialmanagement786:
By the way if you wanna settle down, and are determined to get a foreign girl.

Indian girls are pretty cute, educated, good cook, family oriented and have a lot values. Not too difficult to get if you are good looking guy who has a decent career.

Not too difficult to get even if you're a black guy?

 
MrJetSet:
financialmanagement786:
By the way if you wanna settle down, and are determined to get a foreign girl.

Indian girls are pretty cute, educated, good cook, family oriented and have a lot values. Not too difficult to get if you are good looking guy who has a decent career.

Not too difficult to get even if you're a black guy?

No experience with that. Never seen an Indian girl with a black guy, have often seen with whites though. But I believe the Indian girls with international exposure wont care as long as your smart.

But really I have no experience with that, that just a guess.

 

I am an Eastern European who lives In New York. I have been born and raised in Eastern Europe and left when I was 22 (not a MOB, but through my parents who worked in the US, if it is relevant). I have an MBA from a top-10, and I was here today because I have an M&A interview on Monday... Then I discovered this topic, which is quite hilarious.

I can say a couple of things on the subject.

First of all, I have no clue where the idea of Eastern European casual morals come from. Why Brazilians, Chinese, etc. don't get the same label? My Russian girlfriends are saints compared with some other foreign women. Then again, if an American girl has a one night stand, if is OK, she is single and discovering who she is. If a Russian does - she is, apparently, a wh-re fishing for a green card:)

Stereotyping is dangerous, although I must admit there is some truth to them. Like all Arab and Indian men will lie to you to date you while they have the arranged bridges back home waiting for them to graduate and take that banking job. Like Americans are cheap and shallow and can't point Italy on the map. Etc, etc. Shall I go on?

Yes, we do expect guys to pick up the dinner bill. But on the other hand, an idea of greeting my husband with a take out pizza box for dinner and running to my lawyer for divorce the moment I suspect infidelity is very foreign for me.

We are beautiful, caring, home-oriented, loyal, respectful and good with kids. Providing you find a right girl and she has a right guy who loves her and treats her with respect.

The topic touched my heart. I am here to answer any questions you guys might have about Eastern Europeans brides and what things to avoid when looking for one.

 

CEE... I think we should meet… I am quite a bit younger than you, but if that is a problem maybe you have a sister or cousin that would be interested ;-) I just spent a year in Germany for school, and after returning home I find that I would really like to date a German girl or a girl from Russia or Eastern Europe. The Eastern European women are so beautiful, but more importantly they were all intelligent, cool, and they were all really nice to me. They are also very direct, and will tell you at any moment exactly what they are thinking. I love that…. I guess I have a few questions for you then… How would an American go about dating a girl from Russia or one of the former satellite countries? Do women there generally like American men, or do they find us disingenuous? What information would you give to somebody that is looking for a girl from this region? Thanks for any help you can offer. Cheers, Kevin

 
krmier:
CEE... I think we should meet… I am quite a bit younger than you, but if that is a problem maybe you have a sister or cousin that would be interested ;-) I just spent a year in Germany for school, and after returning home I find that I would really like to date a German girl or a girl from Russia or Eastern Europe. The Eastern European women are so beautiful, but more importantly they were all intelligent, cool, and they were all really nice to me. They are also very direct, and will tell you at any moment exactly what they are thinking. I love that…. I guess I have a few questions for you then… How would an American go about dating a girl from Russia or one of the former satellite countries? Do women there generally like American men, or do they find us disingenuous? What information would you give to somebody that is looking for a girl from this region? Thanks for any help you can offer. Cheers, Kevin

Kevin, I will try... It is slow at the office today...

As for me personally, I decided I will date only 35-39 years old guys, preferable from Europe. My personal preferences, no negative feeling about any other group, as I get along with these types better.

Cousin or friend? You might be a bit young... My youngest friends are 26-29. Interested?

If you like Eastern Europeans, you don't have to travel there. There are plenty of them living in NYC already. You have to go to places where they hang out. I would recommend girls who has been here already for a while. Those who came as students, for instance, and got their H1Bs or those who grew up here, etc.

Many of my friends married Americans and were looking for Americans - to answer your question about American men.

How do you approach a girl? Well, do your home work: know where she is from. Also don't talk about movies, cartoon you watched as a kid (She would have no clue) and, most importantly, do not talk about sports!:)))))))) We are not shaped to learn baseball rules (I tried numerous times and I failed, and I have an MBA in finance, lol!) Soccer might be an exception:)

Also, under any circumstances do not try to show your Russian language skills. There is nothing more disgusting than a drunk foreigner at Marivanna shouting at you "krasivaya devushka!" (pretty girl) feeling all good about himself. Immediately raise a suspicion that he was on a brother tour somewhere in Southern Ukraine for vacation:)))))) Generally, we don't appreciate people trying to speak some words of Russian - we speak English:)

Opening "where are you from?" line is lame, too. We are being asked this question at least 5 times per night. Be creative:)

At the end of the day, we are not different from other girls, being sincere and nice is a the key.

On a separate note, if you like the girl, insist on paying the bill. We will contribute to the relationship, and we are generous with our money once it evolves. But splitting at the beginning is a huge turn off - paying is a way to show that you like her and interested in her... It is just a cultural thing... All my Russian girlfriends make $100K, but would not want to pay for a guy they just recently met.

In return, she would be taking care of you with attention and care you would NEVER get from anyone else. Russian women take very good care of their men.

 

In return... I would really appreciate advice on where to go to meet good men in New York. I moved here 5 months ago after I left my job in London. I don't have a circle of friends and NYC night life is not a place to find a husband... I am 34 and often get approached by 25 y.o. :))))

Any idea? Thanks in advance.

 

First of all, this post is hilarious....I don't even know what some of you are talking about.

Second, I thought the whole "mail order bride thing" was just a scam. Seriously, you're going to......buy a wife??

Third, if you ARE insane/insecure/socially retarded enough to go that route, go indian. The streotype is not that far off from reality, but do realize that you're going to marry into THEIR social reality, and not the other way around. You can take the person out of the village, but no the villiage out of the person.

And last:

CEE:
In return... I would really appreciate advice on where to go to meet good men in New York. I moved here 5 months ago after I left my job in London. I don't have a circle of friends and NYC night life is not a place to find a husband... I am 34 and often get approached by 25 y.o. :))))

Any idea? Thanks in advance.

^ are you for real?
Get busy living
 
UFOinsider:
First of all, this post is hilarious....I don't even know what some of you are talking about.

Second, I thought the whole "mail order bride thing" was just a scam. Seriously, you're going to......buy a wife??

Third, if you ARE insane/insecure/socially retarded enough to go that route, go indian. The streotype is not that far off from reality, but do realize that you're going to marry into THEIR social reality, and not the other way around. You can take the person out of the village, but no the villiage out of the person.

And last:

CEE:
In return... I would really appreciate advice on where to go to meet good men in New York. I moved here 5 months ago after I left my job in London. I don't have a circle of friends and NYC night life is not a place to find a husband... I am 34 and often get approached by 25 y.o. :))))

Any idea? Thanks in advance.

^ are you for real?

You got wrong idea about India. India is NOT all village. Dont put that picture in your mind. I have done school from USA but have been bought up in India so I can make a real comparison.

Most medium size cities, you will find plenty of girls who have years of global exposure, and are real advanced but still connected to values like loyalty, saving and investing, drinking but NOT getting drink and all.

Dont think village when you talk India. Think Diversity, education and values.

 
UFOinsider:
First of all, this post is hilarious....I don't even know what some of you are talking about.

Second, I thought the whole "mail order bride thing" was just a scam. Seriously, you're going to......buy a wife??

Third, if you ARE insane/insecure/socially retarded enough to go that route, go indian. The streotype is not that far off from reality, but do realize that you're going to marry into THEIR social reality, and not the other way around. You can take the person out of the village, but no the villiage out of the person.

And last:

CEE:
In return... I would really appreciate advice on where to go to meet good men in New York. I moved here 5 months ago after I left my job in London. I don't have a circle of friends and NYC night life is not a place to find a husband... I am 34 and often get approached by 25 y.o. :))))

Any idea? Thanks in advance.

^ are you for real?

Aside from asking pointless questions, can you say something useful? :))) Thanks!

 
CEE:
In return... I would really appreciate advice on where to go to meet good men in New York. I moved here 5 months ago after I left my job in London. I don't have a circle of friends and NYC night life is not a place to find a husband... I am 34 and often get approached by 25 y.o. :))))

Any idea? Thanks in advance.

PICS or its useless you can PM me ;-]

everyone is always '34 but act 25'

 

Interesting... Everywhere I go in NYC, I see lots and lots of pretty girls and young women... Are they really don't make the cut?:) What does it take to project "not know what you are doing with your life"?:)

 
CEE:
Interesting... Everywhere I go in NYC, I see lots and lots of pretty girls and young women... Are they really don't make the cut?:) What does it take to project "not know what you are doing with your life"?:)

You seem like the type of lady who shouldn't be trusted with handling a condom.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into SWANSONS.
 
Flake:
CEE:
Interesting... Everywhere I go in NYC, I see lots and lots of pretty girls and young women... Are they really don't make the cut?:) What does it take to project "not know what you are doing with your life"?:)

You seem like the type of lady who shouldn't be trusted with handling a condom.

Me? Why?

 

@Flake and shorttheworld, I was out of line there. My post was admittedly beginning to sound like a MOB blog. However, the first comment was gold, and shorttheworld, is your icon a guinea with a pancake on its head? I respect that- I also have two guineas at home.

 
krmier:
@Flake and shorttheworld, I was out of line there. My post was admittedly beginning to sound like a MOB blog. However, the first comment was gold, and shorttheworld, is your icon a guinea with a pancake on its head? I respect that- I also have two guineas at home.

I'm a dick sometimes but good luck with your wife search. You're kind of over thinking it though...

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into SWANSONS.
 

That's why I said the condom thing. I guarantee you her nightstand is filled with condoms, and they all have holes in them. Bring your own.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into SWANSONS.
 
Flake:
That's why I said the condom thing. I guarantee you her nightstand is filled with condoms, and they all have holes in them. Bring your own.

You might be overvaluing your genes, dear:)))))))

 
CEE:
Flake:
That's why I said the condom thing. I guarantee you her nightstand is filled with condoms, and they all have holes in them. Bring your own.

You might be overvaluing your genes, dear:)))))))

My babies will have x-ray vision.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into SWANSONS.
 

So flake, keeping it classy as usual? ; )

“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” - Schopenhauer
 
whatwhatwhat:
once you make second year analyst at a bb are you able to afford more than one eastern european bride and if so, does that change if you decide you are more interested in eastern asia how does that change with hf, pe, etc.
fucking hilarious +1
Get busy living
 

Sweet Lord! I came here with an honest attempt to put together a nice EE girl and a decent American baker guy! Now I see you guys are posting here just to take a revenge on being bullied by seniors in the office, while eating your corporate dinners:)))

 
CEE:
Sweet Lord! I came here with an honest attempt to put together a nice EE girl and a decent American baker guy! Now I see you guys are posting here just to take a revenge on being bullied by seniors in the office, while eating your corporate dinners:)))

Who needs corporate dinners when you're a baker guy =x

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into SWANSONS.
 
CEE:
Sweet Lord! I came here with an honest attempt to put together a nice EE girl and a decent American baker guy! Now I see you guys are posting here just to take a revenge on being bullied by seniors in the office, while eating your corporate dinners:)))

Jeniha ishesh? ) Na etom sayte v osnovnom indusi i kitaytsi sidyat, poetomu i nih takaya reaksiya. ) Takiye tebe nujni? A tak smeshno bilo chitat vse eto. ))

 
corporate_finance_interested:
CEE:
Sweet Lord! I came here with an honest attempt to put together a nice EE girl and a decent American baker guy! Now I see you guys are posting here just to take a revenge on being bullied by seniors in the office, while eating your corporate dinners:)))

Jeniha ishesh? ) Na etom sayte v osnovnom indusi i kitaytsi sidyat, poetomu i nih takaya reaksiya. ) Takiye tebe nujni? A tak smeshno bilo chitat vse eto. ))

дебил... Почему вы думаете, что Есть только китайский или индийский здесь? Lern2 type in Cyrillic also
 
corporate_finance_interested:
CEE:
Sweet Lord! I came here with an honest attempt to put together a nice EE girl and a decent American baker guy! Now I see you guys are posting here just to take a revenge on being bullied by seniors in the office, while eating your corporate dinners:)))

Jeniha ishesh? ) Na etom sayte v osnovnom indusi i kitaytsi sidyat, poetomu i nih takaya reaksiya. ) Takiye tebe nujni? A tak smeshno bilo chitat vse eto. ))

What a faggot. There are more Russians here than you think.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into SWANSONS.
 

Things to consider mate:

If you depict lower Growth Capital and ample Hedging experience, prospect is likely to allow you passage into her Private Equity.

Raise your overall GPA women ding you at 3.5 or lower

Disregard the models... acquire bottles. Models are a night-end bonus. Not quite 2007 numbers, but very attractive figures.

- Currently under review for Senior Monkey position. Will networking with alum help any?
 

Chinese girls, if they're well raised (and you're attracted to them) might fit the bill for you. A Hong Kong girl recently said to me "find yourself a Chinese girl. She'll wake you up in the morning, cook you breakfast, have dinner ready for you when you come home. She'll take care of you for the rest of your life." As long as you're okay with not having more than two children.

Hong Kong girls are another story.

 

What the American girls have in perverted sense of entitlement, the Russian's have in opportunistic get-me-out of Russia attitude. Plus there's no way you're actually good looking or well built as you claim if guys are hitting on your girl right in front of you. The reason you can't find anyone here is probably because you're a cowardly pencil neck dork who thinks he isn't.

 
Walkio:
Blastoise you apple tart, please enlighten us with your brilliance on this matter.
Seconded. Read through this whole thread just waiting to find his response.
I am permanently behind on PMs, it's not personal.
 

I think I was in love once...she was Brazilian or Chinese, or something weird. I met her in the bathroom of a K-Mart and we made out for hours. Then we parted ways, never to see each other again...

For real though, I'm into South American girls. You wanna talk about passion?? Watch out! Just be honest, respectful and a fucking man...they'll take care of you ;) If anybody wants to hit up Brazil, let me know

yellow t-shirt
 
LancelotLink:
For real though, I'm into South American girls. You wanna talk about passion?? Watch out! Just be honest, respectful and a fucking man...they'll take care of you ;)
...yeah and if you anger them, they'll cut you, puta. For real, I used to work in a very well known ER and the shit that would come in from downtown was unbelieveable. One chica came in with her husband, screaming, and he'd been stabbed in the chest: after he was stable and she started talking, it turns out they had a fight and she shanked him.....now THAT'S passion. true story
Get busy living
 
UFOinsider:
LancelotLink:
For real though, I'm into South American girls. You wanna talk about passion?? Watch out! Just be honest, respectful and a fucking man...they'll take care of you ;)
...yeah and if you anger them, they'll cut you, puta. For real, I used to work in a very well known ER and the shit that would come in from downtown was unbelieveable. One chica came in with her husband, screaming, and he'd been stabbed in the chest: after he was stable and she started talking, it turns out they had a fight and she shanked him.....now THAT'S passion. true story

if that ain't love, i don't know what is lol

yellow t-shirt
 

I plan to get one when I am of age, or I am going back to my home country to find a woman.

There is no way I would want any girls grown up win modern western society to be the mother of my children. It simply is not fair for the children or me. I want a girl for whom it is a privilege to be with me, privilege to have and grow my seeds, and understand what loyalty and love mean.

 
Universite:
I plan to get one when I am of age, or I am going back to my home country to find a woman.

There is no way I would want any girls grown up win modern western society to be the mother of my children. It simply is not fair for the children or me. I want a girl for whom it is a privilege to be with me, privilege to have and grow my seeds, and understand what loyalty and love mean.

You sound frighteningly unenlightened.
I am permanently behind on PMs, it's not personal.
 
A Posse Ad Esse:
Universite:
I plan to get one when I am of age, or I am going back to my home country to find a woman.

There is no way I would want any girls grown up win modern western society to be the mother of my children. It simply is not fair for the children or me. I want a girl for whom it is a privilege to be with me, privilege to have and grow my seeds, and understand what loyalty and love mean.

You sound frighteningly unenlightened.

So when is he going back to Afghanistan?

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into SWANSONS.
 
A Posse Ad Esse:
Universite:
I plan to get one when I am of age, or I am going back to my home country to find a woman.

There is no way I would want any girls grown up win modern western society to be the mother of my children. It simply is not fair for the children or me. I want a girl for whom it is a privilege to be with me, privilege to have and grow my seeds, and understand what loyalty and love mean.

You sound frighteningly unenlightened.
Sounds like just another immigrant / 1st gen who likes making money here but has no interest in integrating.
Get busy living
 

do they accept AmEx?

"The right to have children should be a marketable commodity, bought and traded by individuals but absolutely limited by the state."—Kenneth Boulding
 

If you're going to date Europeans only look at the EU or Switzerland, German girls are great, despite the stereotypes they are really sweet, generally gorgeous, driven, no nonsense and bright, same applies for Austrian women. Marry a Swiss girl and you get the world's best passport. HK has great women too, plus your kid will go to Princeton.

 

You didn't but your statement was retarded. You don't know how many Indians or Chinese are here, so for you to say it's the majority of this site's user base...is pretty fucking stupid.

It's cool that you're trying to be a hero and all, acting concerned for CEE's well being, but take it elsewhere you pussy.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into SWANSONS.
 
krmier:
They were always getting hit on while we were dating, and sometimes guys had the audacity to do it blatantly right in front of me. As an aside I am a decent looking guy, but I am in very good shape. I was usually taken aback when guys much smaller than me would hit on my girlfriend. This is only further evidence of how unevenly balanced the social construction of dating has become.

Lol I'm sorry I hit on your girl, bro. And why do you assume that just because you're in good shape and are bigger than the other dude that that is "evidence of how unevenly balanced the social construction of dating has become". Do you know how ridiculous that is to say? That's like how when rich dudes bitch about not getting hot chicks. Chicks want the full package, and personality trumps all else. Having the balls to hit on a chick, especially a hot one, in front of her boyfriend, is the most alpha thing someone can do, and is very attractive. I've done that shit to a lot of guys, and have never gotten into a fight over it.

And I'm cool with the whole mail order bride thing, sounds fun. I wish polygamy were legal so I could buy a harem when I'm older.

 
alexpasch:
krmier:
They were always getting hit on while we were dating, and sometimes guys had the audacity to do it blatantly right in front of me. As an aside I am a decent looking guy, but I am in very good shape. I was usually taken aback when guys much smaller than me would hit on my girlfriend. This is only further evidence of how unevenly balanced the social construction of dating has become.

Lol I'm sorry I hit on your girl, bro. And why do you assume that just because you're in good shape and are bigger than the other dude that that is "evidence of how unevenly balanced the social construction of dating has become". Do you know how ridiculous that is to say? That's like how when rich dudes bitch about not getting hot chicks. Chicks want the full package, and personality trumps all else. Having the balls to hit on a chick, especially a hot one, in front of her boyfriend, is the most alpha thing someone can do, and is very attractive. I've done that shit to a lot of guys, and have never gotten into a fight over it.

And I'm cool with the whole mail order bride thing, sounds fun. I wish polygamy were legal so I could buy a harem when I'm older.

Alpha as fuck bro.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into SWANSONS.
 

i wouldn't date a russian girl, even if she appeared intelligent.. "Cause russians shallow, egotistical , basically addicted to emotions and most of them have a ghetto attitude+plus they like to think that they are the smartest , the best in the world.. I don't mind russian friends , in fact i have a lot of russian friends, but to choose a person to live with for the rest of your life i wouldn't go with russians or EE , by the way they also have calculator in their head, but indian girls more blatant about their calculator., but russian girls ,if you don't satisfy her needs ,will keep you around just in case, you'll become usefull to her in the future

 
Universite:
Why am I not surprised by this number? Monkey Shit thrown at this user: 103
If that's not proof that I'll never be part of groupthink, well, I don't know what is: I'm not here to jerk anyone off and agree with them for the hell of it. For what it's worth, your comment offended me just as much, hence the acerbic retort. If you think you can put insulting and inaccurate overgeneralizations up and not get flak for it, you may have some personal issues to work out that have nothing to do with Western culture.

Seriously, who in their right mind thinks that they're going to find a freethinking mate with the attitude of "they should be grateful for the privelage of being with me"?? THAT'S why you're not getting any quality action brother. Would YOU date someone with that attitude?

Chill out, get over yourself, and go get laid: I'm saying this because I think no one's ever told you this. It's simple: "Hi, what's your name, are you single?" Trust me, it works.

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UFOinsider:
Universite:
Why am I not surprised by this number? Monkey Shit thrown at this user: 103
If that's not proof that I'll never be part of groupthink, well, I don't know what is: I'm not here to jerk anyone off and agree with them for the hell of it. For what it's worth, your comment offended me just as much, hence the acerbic retort. If you think you can put insulting and inaccurate overgeneralizations up and not get flak for it, you may have some personal issues to work out that have nothing to do with Western culture.

Seriously, who in their right mind thinks that they're going to find a freethinking mate with the attitude of "they should be grateful for the privelage of being with me"?? THAT'S why you're not getting any quality action brother. Would YOU date someone with that attitude?

Chill out, get over yourself, and go get laid: I'm saying this because I think no one's ever told you this. It's simple: "Hi, what's your name, are you single?" Trust me, it works.

You don't have to worry about me getting sum of dat. Thankfully, the white western culture has gotten up the girl so loose that I have had no problem getting quality action. Honestly, where I am from, it would be near damn impossible to match the number of thangs that i whammed in the past year. Thank you for your culture.

 
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Universite:
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Universite:
Why am I not surprised by this number? Monkey Shit thrown at this user: 103
If that's not proof that I'll never be part of groupthink, well, I don't know what is: I'm not here to jerk anyone off and agree with them for the hell of it. For what it's worth, your comment offended me just as much, hence the acerbic retort. If you think you can put insulting and inaccurate overgeneralizations up and not get flak for it, you may have some personal issues to work out that have nothing to do with Western culture.

Seriously, who in their right mind thinks that they're going to find a freethinking mate with the attitude of "they should be grateful for the privelage of being with me"?? THAT'S why you're not getting any quality action brother. Would YOU date someone with that attitude?

Chill out, get over yourself, and go get laid: I'm saying this because I think no one's ever told you this. It's simple: "Hi, what's your name, are you single?" Trust me, it works.

You don't have to worry about me getting sum of dat. Thankfully, the white western culture has gotten up the girl so loose that I have had no problem getting quality action. Honestly, where I am from, it would be near damn impossible to match the number of thangs that i whammed in the past year. Thank you for your culture.

What, and people don't go to the Orient for all the whores? Same thing buddy. With all due respect to 'Confucian' culture, the East stagnated a thousand years ago and the ONLY thing they really do well is copy and refine the parts of Western technology that we've already moved on from.

How are things at the fuzzy dice factory?

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I'm disappointed that we have not yet heard from blatoise's musings on the matter. While I'm long MOBs, I'm short EE women in general regardless of MOB or 1st gen/2nd gen/whatever from US. They're cool, calculating, and conniving women who tend to take an "ends justify the means" philosophy to the extreme and more importantly will constantly be evaluating your worth to them. Granted, if you continue to offer value, she'll stick around but don't expect a woman who will remain with you through thick and thin. Oddly enough EE women also tend to age poorly so that's some piss poor ROI in the appearance department. As always there are exceptions to the rule, but you would be crazy to delude yourself into believing you will run into "the exception."

The posters on here who tout Indian women as domicile and fairly caring clearly are dealing with a specific subset. Plenty of South Asian girls have enough attitude and tend to believe their shit doesn't stink. Again, like any EE who is worth their salt, they will size you up and evaluate what you bring to the table. Now, I'm not against a gal who does some mental math and deduces your worth or lack thereof. My problem is with individuals who constantly keep on engaging in such calculations disregarding what has happened in the past. Essentially they focus on the old paradigm "What have you done for me lately?" Now if you're looking for some casual/NSA fun you will probably careless if someone adopts such a perspective. However, if you wish to pursue a serious relationship (which I think is a joke especially if you're sub 28 - but hey your life) that mindset will lead to either you feel exhausted as you must continually prove your value or part ways.

 
deltahedge:
I'm disappointed that we have not yet heard from blatoise's musings on the matter. While I'm long MOBs, I'm short EE women in general regardless of MOB or 1st gen/2nd gen/whatever from US. They're cool, calculating, and conniving women who tend to take an "ends justify the means" philosophy to the extreme and more importantly will constantly be evaluating your worth to them. Granted, if you continue to offer value, she'll stick around but don't expect a woman who will remain with you through thick and thin. Oddly enough EE women also tend to age poorly so that's some piss poor ROI in the appearance department. As always there are exceptions to the rule, but you would be crazy to delude yourself into believing you will run into "the exception."

The posters on here who tout Indian women as domicile and fairly caring clearly are dealing with a specific subset. Plenty of South Asian girls have enough attitude and tend to believe their shit doesn't stink. Again, like any EE who is worth their salt, they will size you up and evaluate what you bring to the table. Now, I'm not against a gal who does some mental math and deduces your worth or lack thereof. My problem is with individuals who constantly keep on engaging in such calculations disregarding what has happened in the past. Essentially they focus on the old paradigm "What have you done for me lately?" Now if you're looking for some casual/NSA fun you will probably careless if someone adopts such a perspective. However, if you wish to pursue a serious relationship (which I think is a joke especially if you're sub 28 - but hey your life) that mindset will lead to either you feel exhausted as you must continually prove your value or part ways.

First of all I am NOT touting, never mind the language you will "grow up" eventually. India is a country of 1.2 Billion people, every seventh person in the world is Indian. Also India is the most diverse country in the world. Indian girls can be as ugly as shit, on the hand they can be supermodels, miss universe, astronauts CEOs and world leaders. I was talking about the kind of girls and society I grew up with, tradition North Indian-upper middle class religious families, which will constitute around 30% of India (1.2 Billion people).

I am from North India , but your racist remarks about south Asians (their shit doesn't stink) ,who can also be supermodels and miss world, is extremely inappropriate. This is what is called lack of personal values.

Hope you evolve to be a non-racist my friend.

 
financialmanagement786:
deltahedge:
I'm disappointed that we have not yet heard from blatoise's musings on the matter. While I'm long MOBs, I'm short EE women in general regardless of MOB or 1st gen/2nd gen/whatever from US. They're cool, calculating, and conniving women who tend to take an "ends justify the means" philosophy to the extreme and more importantly will constantly be evaluating your worth to them. Granted, if you continue to offer value, she'll stick around but don't expect a woman who will remain with you through thick and thin. Oddly enough EE women also tend to age poorly so that's some piss poor ROI in the appearance department. As always there are exceptions to the rule, but you would be crazy to delude yourself into believing you will run into "the exception."

The posters on here who tout Indian women as domicile and fairly caring clearly are dealing with a specific subset. Plenty of South Asian girls have enough attitude and tend to believe their shit doesn't stink. Again, like any EE who is worth their salt, they will size you up and evaluate what you bring to the table. Now, I'm not against a gal who does some mental math and deduces your worth or lack thereof. My problem is with individuals who constantly keep on engaging in such calculations disregarding what has happened in the past. Essentially they focus on the old paradigm "What have you done for me lately?" Now if you're looking for some casual/NSA fun you will probably careless if someone adopts such a perspective. However, if you wish to pursue a serious relationship (which I think is a joke especially if you're sub 28 - but hey your life) that mindset will lead to either you feel exhausted as you must continually prove your value or part ways.

First of all I am NOT touting, never mind the language you will "grow up" eventually. India is a country of 1.2 Billion people, every seventh person in the world is Indian. Also India is the most diverse country in the world. Indian girls can be as ugly as shit, on the hand they can be supermodels, miss universe, astronauts CEOs and world leaders. I was talking about the kind of girls and society I grew up with, tradition North Indian-upper middle class religious families, which will constitute around 30% of India (1.2 Billion people).

I am from North India , but your racist remarks about south Asians (their shit doesn't stink) ,who can also be supermodels and miss world, is extremely inappropriate. This is what is called lack of personal values.

Hope you evolve to be a non-racist my friend.

This is ridiculous. In no way was I being racist in any shape, way, or form. I simply offered a differing perspective from other posters who tended to believe that South Asian women are more domicile. My earlier statement "they believe their shit doesn't stink" could be applied to a VAST majority of women of various ethnicities. That does comment does not SOLELY apply to South Asian women.

FYI your demographics on India seem to be a bit skewed. A World Bank estimate said 41.6% of the Indian population falls below the world poverty line. I'm willing to buy maybe 10% of the North Indian population is "upper-middle-class" but when adjusting for PPP, India is basically a country of HAVES and HAVE NOTS. There is a burgeoning middle class, but by no means is at large as 30% of the population.

 

"...on the hand they can be supermodels, miss universe, astronauts." Yes astronaut chicks are awesome. It's a b*tch getting their helmet off, but I have that issue with most of the women I date.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into SWANSONS.
 

Wait...are some of you guys suggesting South Asian or East Asian chicks because they're more obedient? Like LOL, wow...you some of you guys are the ultimate pussies...

A Mail Order Bride is basically a glorified hooker. You OWN that bitch. Eastern European girls are more attractive. Put them in their place, grow a pair. That you guys would go for a less attractive girl because you are afraid of the more attractive ones is beyond funny.

 
alexpasch:
Wait...are some of you guys suggesting South Asian or East Asian chicks because they're more obedient? Like LOL, wow...you some of you guys are the ultimate pussies...

A Mail Order Bride is basically a glorified hooker. You OWN that bitch. Eastern European girls are more attractive. Put them in their place, grow a pair. That you guys would go for a less attractive girl because you are afraid of the more attractive ones is beyond funny.

Read the entire thread, first most people said the same thing as you, that mail-order bribes is incredibly stupid. That too when a 22 yr old is asking. But OP is adamant.

Also NOT because of their obedience, but it all started from "sticking through thick and thin" . Read the whole thread u will get it.

 

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