Long term investment/diversification strategy
Hi everyone, I am looking for some guidance on diversification and starting my investment strategy early on. I am sure a lot of you are in a similar situation now or used to be a couple years ago, any advice would be helpful.
I am in my early 20s, one year into my first job and things are going great so far. I contribute to my 401k up to the maximum matching from my company, I have saved up for a squirrel fund (6 months living expenses), and I actually get a big part of my compensation in RSUs and options (with vesting requirement of course).
I am now in a situation where I am saving a little extra and do not want that cash to sit in the bank for no reason so I am not sure if I want to contribute more to the limited choices I have on the 401k, open a roth IRA and choose from more options or take bets on stocks doing my own research. I am not saying I can beat the market, I am just asking in your opinion the most efficient way to invest long-term.
Thanks for your time,
Bump
short answer - if you want simple, just be globally diversified, indexed or cheap active, whatever. here's what I'd do
30% US large cap 10% US mid cap 10% US small cap 30% developed international 20% EM
if you want more commentary let me know, if you're just looking for blanket help, that should work.
Yes these guidelines are helpful thanks. I'm opening a Roth IRA and will probably put most of it in cheap indexing as low fees is already a good start to outperform... I would love some more commentary if you have the time. I want to start it now and do it right (or at least have the right mindset).
A couple follow-up questions: -Would you put 100% in stock? Not even bother with HY bonds? -Would it make sense to add some blue chip stocks (GDP + 1-2%) with decent dividend payout since I get a tax break on investment income? Or should I just go for some SPX ETFs and call it a day. -I am playing this with a 40 year horizon, do you have a couple of riskier plays in mind that I could think about?
slow mondays...
I'm 90% stock, 10% cash. for my non cash investments, I'll always stick with stocks until I get sufficiently close to retirement that I need to switch to wealth preservation mode (unless we have another tech bubble). that's general advice, stocks will always be the best game in town for regular investors. as far as high yield, I wouldn't touch it with a 10ft pole right now if you're indexing. the spreads are way too low so unless you're picking out individual deals, you have a good likelihood of getting fucked (take a look at PHK, it's up over 15% this year but the NAV is down 3%, HY is a time bomb and people will realize why indexing in fixed income is just flat out wrong, practically and empirically)
you'll get blue chip stock exposure if you index/buy cheap active. also, the ETFs will pay dividends so you get a "break" on the investment income.
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your questions 2 & 3 beg the question - should you even bother picking individual names? this is the age old question, and there's a couple of different perspectives on this. I won't go on a diatribe about active/passive because that's been done to death. where you can get into trouble picking individual names is if:
I personally love it. while I've outperformed long term, there are times where I want to punch somebody because positions are souring or I have one loser cancelling out 2 winners. it's not for the faint of heart, like any investing, but buying individual names causes all sorts of other psychological effects that are detrimental to investor success - confirmation bias, tunnel vision, fear of admitting to a loss, etc., and while you get the ups and downs of this with index investing, it's not the same as individual names. plus, with index investing, you'll never be staring at 1000 shares of GE on your statement which totally overshadows a few good picks like Mastercard and Conoco, you just see the S&P or R3000 up/down with everything else.
for the lay person, I'd say just pick broad based funds (as outlined above) and save 25%+ of your income. if you want to take chances, here's the ways to hit it big (non exhaustive)
if you really want to swing for the fences, you'll have to look into more esoteric areas, tie up capital for longer, and so on. if everyone could find the next AAPL, it wouldn't be as lucrative
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