Long time programmer in silicon valley, figuring out options in trading. Please help.

Hi guys,
I'm a programmer (BS/MS - CS from average state schools).

I'm currently working in silicon valley in a big software company(Ebay/Yahoo/Oracle/Cisco/MS etc). I have reasonably good algo/programming skills.

I'm considering a move to financial services industry due to an interest in trading,lack of interest in enterprise/internet programming and also compensation.

What would be a good step to make in trading domain, given my background?

I've read about HFT programming ; it sounds interesting and relevant to my background/interests, but the recruiters I talked to in this area, were trying to place me in the general infrastructure/trading systems development (and not developing algos that trade). Is this the best place to get in?

What are my options as a "pure programmer without any finance/trading background" to get my foot in the industry? Just wanted to get an idea of the various roles/place I could get in. Any help would be appreciated.

Currently based on my research online, I have found these options:
1) HFT programming (developing trading systems/infrastructure that power the trades)
2) Quant dev (code the math models). Not sure about this.
And finally which would be a good place to start? - prop trading firm or hedge fund or BB's trading division?

 
melvvvar:
in any shop like that you need to put in your dues for 1-3 years as a developer, and if you are good, eventually they move you into a trading role.
Thanks. Yeah, I do understand that (and dont expect) to get into a trading role anytime soon. But just wanted to understand what kind of role I can get into, that will position me well into a path where I can eventually become a trader. As far as a developer role, if I can get into a HFT trading systems (infrastructure development), will that position me well?
 

Ullam possimus hic voluptas nisi atque voluptate velit. Eveniet sunt blanditiis consequuntur est repudiandae. Impedit enim dolor dolore in dignissimos quia unde. Illum hic architecto quas ipsum molestiae veritatis et. Illo eius iste accusantium. Similique ipsa illo quaerat ut nobis.

Saepe fugit velit autem consequuntur voluptas totam. Perferendis accusantium et esse ad animi quasi eaque. Architecto in ea similique voluptatem. Omnis fuga commodi ullam suscipit exercitationem ut fugiat. Cum vitae dicta odio facere ut. Ipsa a dignissimos quia. Veniam officiis fuga expedita ut quibusdam ipsa.

 

Cupiditate est quo nobis esse. Ullam quia occaecati ratione magni magni. Officiis natus vitae reiciendis id.

At hic sit et doloribus saepe. Sapiente reprehenderit ut at placeat. Fuga quisquam ut dolorem est sed. Consequatur voluptatem vel veniam.

Sint et quasi voluptatum sit similique. Voluptas ipsa enim et minus odit. Possimus sed et ut beatae. Eos omnis similique assumenda quod id quis. Et et sint expedita qui voluptate amet. Inventore porro porro amet nisi architecto.

[Comment removed by mod team]

Career Advancement Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Goldman Sachs 19 98.8%
  • Harris Williams & Co. New 98.3%
  • Lazard Freres 02 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 03 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (19) $385
  • Associates (87) $260
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (14) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (66) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (205) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (146) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
3
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
4
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
5
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
6
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
7
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
8
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
9
Linda Abraham's picture
Linda Abraham
98.8
10
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”