Losing weight - 7 weeks to do it.

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I was going through some personal issues in the last couple of months and really got lazy with working out and hitting the gym.

My brother is getting married in about 8 weeks time and I really want to drop some of the weight I picked up since like May (I know).

What would you recommend to try and do and shift as much weight as possible within the next 7 weeks?

I'm hitting the gym from next week. In easing back in, what routines would you suggest?

Diets?

I'm weighing at around 250 now and want to drop as much as possible (ideally 220 but am realistic). I was eating around 6,000 calories a day before but am controlling this now to a more humane figure!

Thanks a lot!

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Comments (95)

Nov 15, 2011

Easy.

Cut out all liquid aside from water. That is an easy 5 lbs right there.

If you are a drinker, limit alcohol intake to one night a week.

During the week, get into the routine of running before breakfast.

Set a carb ceiling. What I mean by this is decide on an amount of carbs you want to intake per day (say 20 [grams]). Do not put any carbs in your body after 3pm. This will give your body time to burn them off before bed.

Here is how carbs work: They are your bodies main energy source, when they are gone, your body switches to its secondary, which is fat. If you are going to be lifting, you are going to want carbs, so don't cut them out entirely, simply limit them and cut yourself off after 3pm. By doing this your body can burn through them and then switch to your fat sources for energy, resulting in increased burning of fat.

If you follow these simple rules along with weight lifting you will be down to where you want to be.

Nov 15, 2011
Nefarious-:

Easy.

Cut out all liquid aside from water. That is an easy 5 lbs right there.

If you are a drinker, limit alcohol intake to one night a week.

During the week, get into the routine of running before breakfast.

Set a carb ceiling. What I mean by this is decide on an amount of carbs you want to intake per day (say 20 [grams]). Do not put any carbs in your body after 3pm. This will give your body time to burn them off before bed.

Here is how carbs work: They are your bodies main energy source, when they are gone, your body switches to its secondary, which is fat. If you are going to be lifting, you are going to want carbs, so don't cut them out entirely, simply limit them and cut yourself off after 3pm. By doing this your body can burn through them and then switch to your fat sources for energy, resulting in increased burning of fat.

If you follow these simple rules along with weight lifting you will be down to where you want to be.

Does cutting out carbs after a certain time really work? I've never tried it...seems pretty tough.

Nov 15, 2011
RonaldBacon:
Nefarious-:

Easy.

Cut out all liquid aside from water. That is an easy 5 lbs right there.

If you are a drinker, limit alcohol intake to one night a week.

During the week, get into the routine of running before breakfast.

Set a carb ceiling. What I mean by this is decide on an amount of carbs you want to intake per day (say 20 [grams]). Do not put any carbs in your body after 3pm. This will give your body time to burn them off before bed.

Here is how carbs work: They are your bodies main energy source, when they are gone, your body switches to its secondary, which is fat. If you are going to be lifting, you are going to want carbs, so don't cut them out entirely, simply limit them and cut yourself off after 3pm. By doing this your body can burn through them and then switch to your fat sources for energy, resulting in increased burning of fat.

If you follow these simple rules along with weight lifting you will be down to where you want to be.

Does cutting out carbs after a certain time really work? I've never tried it...seems pretty tough.

Carb ceilings are a take on (and premise of) the anabloic diet, a very popular dominant diet for weightlifters and bodybuilders.

Whereas no-carb (low-carb) is a lifestyle (due to the fact of once you start eating carbs again, the weight comes back) carb ceilings allow yourself to limit carbs and burn them off naturally throughout the day giving your body plenty of time to switch to fat for energy sources.

No carb is really stupid, especially if you are going to be lifting weights. This is why I always suggest carb ceilings.

Google anabolic diet for more in-depth information.

Nov 16, 2011
Nefarious-:
RonaldBacon:
Nefarious-:

Easy.

Cut out all liquid aside from water. That is an easy 5 lbs right there.

If you are a drinker, limit alcohol intake to one night a week.

During the week, get into the routine of running before breakfast.

Set a carb ceiling. What I mean by this is decide on an amount of carbs you want to intake per day (say 20 [grams]). Do not put any carbs in your body after 3pm. This will give your body time to burn them off before bed.

Here is how carbs work: They are your bodies main energy source, when they are gone, your body switches to its secondary, which is fat. If you are going to be lifting, you are going to want carbs, so don't cut them out entirely, simply limit them and cut yourself off after 3pm. By doing this your body can burn through them and then switch to your fat sources for energy, resulting in increased burning of fat.

If you follow these simple rules along with weight lifting you will be down to where you want to be.

Does cutting out carbs after a certain time really work? I've never tried it...seems pretty tough.

Carb ceilings are a take on (and premise of) the anabloic diet, a very popular dominant diet for weightlifters and bodybuilders.

Whereas no-carb (low-carb) is a lifestyle (due to the fact of once you start eating carbs again, the weight comes back) carb ceilings allow yourself to limit carbs and burn them off naturally throughout the day giving your body plenty of time to switch to fat for energy sources.

No carb is really stupid, especially if you are going to be lifting weights. This is why I always suggest carb ceilings.

Google anabolic diet for more in-depth information.

The fact that you are suggesting the anabolic diet for someone who was just eating 6000 calories/day and hasn't been working out for a few months is fucking laughable. How the fuck is he going to stick to that?

Nov 16, 2011
Nefarious-:

Cut out all liquid aside from water. That is an easy 5 lbs right there.

If you are a drinker, limit alcohol intake to one night a week EDIT ....OR just have ONE or TWO and then go home

During the week, get into the routine of running before breakfast.

Eat greens and meat, no carbs. Eat good food: you are what you eat

Chew gum...you get something tasty with almost no calories

BUILD MUSCLE...it burns fat just to feed itself. Plus, it looks good. If you've got big shoulders, your belly draws less attention

Turn off the TV, it will kill your motivation

Get a LOT of sleep. When you're tired, your body goes into 'energy saver' mode, and takes a more conservative chemistry to functioning. When you're wide awake, you tend to put more energy into everything, and thus burn more energy

Take a walk at lunch, it will make a huge difference. Walk fast, try to catch up to and pass every person you see in front of you...turn it into a game and you'll just start moving faster overall.

Avoid drugs, it's not worth it

Good luck

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Nov 15, 2011

Holy. Fucking. Shit. You were eating 6,000 calories daily?

Look. There are two parts to living better:
1) Eat less
2) Exercise more

It's that simple. Most people don't have the mental determination or simple intelligence to accept that fact. Eat less. Put yourself on 2,500 daily. Exercise. Lifting will help you get muscle definition but if your goal is to drop weight, cardio needs to be your primary focus. Run in the morning, cycle at night. Don't eat after 10pm, drink a ton of water throughout the day, and cut out sweets altogether.

Nov 15, 2011
A Posse Ad Esse:

Holy. Fucking. Shit. You were eating 6,000 calories daily?

Look. There are two parts to living better:
1) Eat less
2) Exercise more

It's that simple. Most people don't have the mental determination or simple intelligence to accept that fact. Eat less. Put yourself on 2,500 daily. Exercise. Lifting will help you get muscle definition but if your goal is to drop weight, cardio needs to be your primary focus. Run in the morning, cycle at night. Don't eat after 10pm, drink a ton of water throughout the day, and cut out sweets altogether.

Weight and caloric intake are relative terms.

I am 6'1 230 right now. I am probably taking in about 4k calories/day to support my weight lifting.

I am fairly obese according to the BMI despite my 8-10% body fat.

Nov 15, 2011
Nefarious-:
A Posse Ad Esse:

Holy. Fucking. Shit. You were eating 6,000 calories daily?

Look. There are two parts to living better:
1) Eat less
2) Exercise more

It's that simple. Most people don't have the mental determination or simple intelligence to accept that fact. Eat less. Put yourself on 2,500 daily. Exercise. Lifting will help you get muscle definition but if your goal is to drop weight, cardio needs to be your primary focus. Run in the morning, cycle at night. Don't eat after 10pm, drink a ton of water throughout the day, and cut out sweets altogether.

Weight and caloric intake are relative terms.

I am 6'1 230 right now. I am probably taking in about 4k calories/day to support my weight lifting.

I am fairly obese according to the BMI despite my 8-10% body fat.

That's true. I'm 6'1" and 180, but I have never had the frame for getting truly massive. I still model underwear too though, so I'm happy staying slender and toned. I'm on 2,800 calories daily, 40-40-20.

Feb 10, 2019
APAE:

I still model underwear too though, so I'm happy staying slender and toned.

[record scratch]

APAE:

I still model underwear too though, so I'm happy staying slender and toned.

Don't you dare lie to me.

Nov 21, 2011
Nefarious-:
A Posse Ad Esse:

Holy. Fucking. Shit. You were eating 6,000 calories daily?

Look. There are two parts to living better:
1) Eat less
2) Exercise more

It's that simple. Most people don't have the mental determination or simple intelligence to accept that fact. Eat less. Put yourself on 2,500 daily. Exercise. Lifting will help you get muscle definition but if your goal is to drop weight, cardio needs to be your primary focus. Run in the morning, cycle at night. Don't eat after 10pm, drink a ton of water throughout the day, and cut out sweets altogether.

Weight and caloric intake are relative terms.

I am 6'1 230 right now. I am probably taking in about 4k calories/day to support my weight lifting.

I am fairly obese according to the BMI despite my 8-10% body fat.

lmao sold 230 @ 8%. I'm offered @ 15% whatever size you think you can handle.

Nov 15, 2011

you should be able to lose a good amount of weight in 8 weeks. Since you're...pretty big, you'll be able to drop a lot of weight initially. It'll get harder once you progress more. But, my advice:

  1. Limit the number of calories you take in. Literally, write out a plan and eat that everyday. You can break down these calories into macronutrients too...like 40% of calories come from protein, etc. Drink a lot of water too, this will help you to keep full throughout the day.
  2. Start working out. There's a common misconception that running helps you lose weight the quickest. But, weight lifting actually burns more body fat than cardio/running. (A pound of muscle burns about 300-500(estimate) calories daily) But, your best bet is to do a mixture of both.
  3. Start implementing things into your day. Such as taking the stairs instead of the elevator. etc.

Most importantly, you really have to diet. Diet contributes about 80% of what your body looks like...exercise around 20%. Diet is key, remember that.

Good luck dude, you can definitely burn off some weight in 8 weeks. But you have to be consistent, and DON'T MISS WORKOUTS.

Nov 15, 2011
RonaldBacon:

2. Start working out. There's a common misconception that running helps you lose weight the quickest. But, weight lifting actually burns more body fat than cardio/running. (A pound of muscle burns about 300-500(estimate) calories daily) But, your best bet is to do a mixture of both.

You don't say? So if I have 10 pounds of fat, I'd be burning 3000 to 5000 calories daily? I believe the research is that every pound of muscle you add on burns 6-10 extra calories a day, which is much more realistic.

Nov 15, 2011
redninja:
RonaldBacon:

2. Start working out. There's a common misconception that running helps you lose weight the quickest. But, weight lifting actually burns more body fat than cardio/running. (A pound of muscle burns about 300-500(estimate) calories daily) But, your best bet is to do a mixture of both.

You don't say? So if I have 10 pounds of fat, I'd be burning 3000 to 5000 calories daily? I believe the research is that every pound of muscle you add on burns 6-10 extra calories a day, which is much more realistic.

Good catch.

Nov 15, 2011
RonaldBacon:

you should be able to lose a good amount of weight in 8 weeks. Since you're...pretty big, you'll be able to drop a lot of weight initially. It'll get harder once you progress more. But, my advice:

  1. Limit the number of calories you take in. Literally, write out a plan and eat that everyday. You can break down these calories into macronutrients too...like 40% of calories come from protein, etc. Drink a lot of water too, this will help you to keep full throughout the day.
  2. Start working out. There's a common misconception that running helps you lose weight the quickest. But, weight lifting actually burns more body fat than cardio/running. (A pound of muscle burns about 300-500(estimate) calories daily) But, your best bet is to do a mixture of both.
  3. Start implementing things into your day. Such as taking the stairs instead of the elevator. etc.

Most importantly, you really have to diet. Diet contributes about 80% of what your body looks like...exercise around 20%. Diet is key, remember that.

Good luck dude, you can definitely burn off some weight in 8 weeks. But you have to be consistent, and DON'T MISS WORKOUTS.

Good shit Ronnie the Bear.

Nov 15, 2011
DSKisNOTGUILTY:

I'm weighing at around 250 now and want to drop as much as possible (ideally 220 but am realistic). I was eating around 6,000 calories a day before but am controlling this now to a more humane figure!

Thanks a lot!

I call bs on the 6000 calories per day...

Eat 10-12x calories per pound of bw per day.
Aim for 1 gram of protein/lb of lean body mass [per day]
Exercise 4 days a week
Stop eating 11 big macs every day
Done

Nov 15, 2011

ketosis

cardio

Nov 15, 2011

I knew that it was only a matter of time before Ronnie Coleman created a WSO username.

6,000 calories? Ain't nothin' but a peanut!

Nov 15, 2011

Watch this when you wake up and go workout:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUc62jD-G0o

Nov 15, 2011

p90x muscle burns more fat, cycle is critical, dont do the same thing over and over body normalizes and u plateau quick (3 weeks)

Nov 15, 2011

doubt you were eating 6k unless you were eating 2.5k pasta dinners or something ridiculous like that.

eat less, less carbs, do cardio (who gives a shit about weights if you care only about your waistline).

eat like 5 x 400 calorie meals per day (or 6 x 350 etc)

Nov 18, 2011
meezy:

doubt you were eating 6k unless you were eating 2.5k pasta dinners or something ridiculous like that.

eat less, less carbs, do cardio (who gives a shit about weights if you care only about your waistline).

eat like 5 x 400 calorie meals per day (or 6 x 350 etc)

this is terrible advice. it is much easier to achieve an athletic physique- slimming waistline, widening shoulders and upper body) by lifting weights, especially compound lifts. compound lifts (squat, deadlift, power clean, bentover row, bench press) give you the most bang for your buck without question. they pack on the most muscle in the shortest time, and burn the most fat while youre doing the. furthermore, when you have more muscle mass, your body burns more calories to maintain it.

so basically not only will you be getting fitter looking from the muscle gains, but youll burn fat during the exercise, and youll burn fat around the clock since your body;s caloric needs are higher as you add muscle.

given that you have 8 weeks, thats plenty of time. try mark rippetoe's "Starting Strength" program. its really easy, simple, and is designed to make maximum impact in short time by focusing on compound lifts. do not listen to anyone who says cardio > lifting (even if you just wanna trim down), he doesnt know what hes talking about.

that said, combine the training with a diet that is extremely heavy in protein and fiber and low in fat, sugar, and carbs.

The 5 best foods you can eat to get fitter, whether youre going for lean muscle gains, fat loss, or both:

Chicken (grilled, skinless)
Oatmeal (steel cut oats, not the instant oatmeal shit with sugar) (you can put fruit or granola, but no brown sugar)
Beans (chickpeas, black beans, pinto, whatever except for baked beans)
egg whites (lots and lots)
tuna/salmon

make sure carbs are whole grain (wheat bread, brown rice, etc, instead of white bread, white rice, pasta, etc)

Nov 16, 2011

Look up HIIT. I guarantee you'll lose 15+ pounds by doing it 3 times a week and throwing some strength training sessions in between. Eat more veggies, drink more water and you'll be fine.

Nov 16, 2011

Just do a gram of protein for every lb of body weight.
Walk in the morning before you have breakfast.
Lift (but make sure you do a mixture of Heavy [sets of 3-5] and light [sets of 10-15] otherwise you'll only work one type of your muscles, fast or slow twitch)
You can supplement if you want..for a low key weight loss supplement, just take down green tea extract pills...they work, great thermogenic.
You dont have to cut out carbs, just limit them to good carbs (Fruit, Veggies, Brown bread, Brown rice)

Also, if you're doing a ketosis diet, you have to take in a shit ton of fat..no one else on here mentioned that...if you dont take in a lotta fat your body will just get all fucked up and you'll probably immediately jump off the diet.

I eat success for breakfast...with skim milk

Nov 16, 2011

so much broscience in this thread...

Nov 16, 2011

(calories out > calories in) = weight loss...it doesn't matter how you achieve this.

http://www.nutrition.com.sg/ha/hacalcal.asp
^calculate maintenance and then eat 500-800 calories less per day (~3300 calories = 1lb). it doesn't matter what time you eat, what your protein/fat/carb ratio is or what type of exercises you are doing as long as you are burning more calories than you take in. instead your focus should be on the best way for you to stick to a diet and exercise regimen that meets this criteria. if you eat extra you need to exercise more and vice versa.

optional:
buy some clenbuterol, ephedrine, caffeine, yohimbe, geranamine, and synephrine. take all of those 3x every day. you will never need to eat (you also run a ~50% chance of death).

Nov 16, 2011
duffmt6:

(calories out > calories in) = weight loss...it doesn't matter how you achieve this.

http://www.nutrition.com.sg/ha/hacalcal.asp
^calculate maintenance and then eat 500-800 calories less per day (~3300 calories = 1lb). it doesn't matter what time you eat, what your protein/fat/carb ratio is or what type of exercises you are doing as long as you are burning more calories than you take in. instead your focus should be on the best way for you to stick to a diet and exercise regimen that meets this criteria. if you eat extra you need to exercise more and vice versa.

optional:
buy some clenbuterol, ephedrine, caffeine, yohimbe, geranamine, and synephrine. take all of those 3x every day. you will never need to eat (you also run a ~50% chance of death).

Ignore everything in this post.

Nov 16, 2011
Nefarious-:
duffmt6:

(calories out > calories in) = weight loss...it doesn't matter how you achieve this.

http://www.nutrition.com.sg/ha/hacalcal.asp
^calculate maintenance and then eat 500-800 calories less per day (~3300 calories = 1lb). it doesn't matter what time you eat, what your protein/fat/carb ratio is or what type of exercises you are doing as long as you are burning more calories than you take in. instead your focus should be on the best way for you to stick to a diet and exercise regimen that meets this criteria. if you eat extra you need to exercise more and vice versa.

optional:
buy some clenbuterol, ephedrine, caffeine, yohimbe, geranamine, and synephrine. take all of those 3x every day. you will never need to eat (you also run a ~50% chance of death).

Ignore everything in this post.

please explain

Edit:
In case I need citations?
http://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/calories/index.html
Also, was obviously kidding about the last part

Edit #2:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.... just some anecdotal evidence as well.

Nov 16, 2011
duffmt6:
Nefarious-:
duffmt6:

(calories out > calories in) = weight loss...it doesn't matter how you achieve this.

http://www.nutrition.com.sg/ha/hacalcal.asp
^calculate maintenance and then eat 500-800 calories less per day (~3300 calories = 1lb). it doesn't matter what time you eat, what your protein/fat/carb ratio is or what type of exercises you are doing as long as you are burning more calories than you take in. instead your focus should be on the best way for you to stick to a diet and exercise regimen that meets this criteria. if you eat extra you need to exercise more and vice versa.

optional:
buy some clenbuterol, ephedrine, caffeine, yohimbe, geranamine, and synephrine. take all of those 3x every day. you will never need to eat (you also run a ~50% chance of death).

Ignore everything in this post.

please explain

Edit:
In case I need citations?
http://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/calories/index.html
Also, was obviously kidding about the last part

Edit #2:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.... just some anecdotal evidence as well.

First of all:

"it doesn't matter what time you eat, what your protein/fat/carb ratio is or what type of exercises you are doing as long as you are burning more calories than you take in. instead your focus should be on the best way for you to stick to a diet and exercise regimen that meets this criteria. if you eat extra you need to exercise more and vice versa." - duffmt

Is circular logic. You are telling him that it doesn't matter how he plans out his diet or in what ratio his diet is split up OR what type of exercises he is doing, but rather he should be focusing on his diet and exercise.

Further, the most important part of losing weight is the diet, which includes, not only, a solid understanding of what protein, fats and carbs do, but how they work and how they can work against you. Knowledge of complex carbs v. regular carbs can go a long way in weight loss. Proportioning the proper amount of carb/fat/protein intake/day goes a long way in losing weight. I could double my caloric intake from 2,500 to 5,000/day and as long as it is followed correctly with meal rationing and the proper carb/fat/protein breakout, I will actually lose fat, lean out and build muscle.

What time you eat is indeed important.

Exercise is important.

If you are giving me citations from a government website or cnn on diet and exercise, you have already lost this argument.

Nov 16, 2011
Nefarious-:
duffmt6:
Nefarious-:
duffmt6:

(calories out > calories in) = weight loss...it doesn't matter how you achieve this.

http://www.nutrition.com.sg/ha/hacalcal.asp
^calculate maintenance and then eat 500-800 calories less per day (~3300 calories = 1lb). it doesn't matter what time you eat, what your protein/fat/carb ratio is or what type of exercises you are doing as long as you are burning more calories than you take in. instead your focus should be on the best way for you to stick to a diet and exercise regimen that meets this criteria. if you eat extra you need to exercise more and vice versa.

optional:
buy some clenbuterol, ephedrine, caffeine, yohimbe, geranamine, and synephrine. take all of those 3x every day. you will never need to eat (you also run a ~50% chance of death).

Ignore everything in this post.

please explain

Edit:
In case I need citations?
http://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/calories/index.html
Also, was obviously kidding about the last part

Edit #2:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.... just some anecdotal evidence as well.

First of all:

"it doesn't matter what time you eat, what your protein/fat/carb ratio is or what type of exercises you are doing as long as you are burning more calories than you take in. instead your focus should be on the best way for you to stick to a diet and exercise regimen that meets this criteria. if you eat extra you need to exercise more and vice versa." - duffmt

Is circular logic. You are telling him that it doesn't matter how he plans out his diet or in what ratio his diet is split up OR what type of exercises he is doing, but rather he should be focusing on his diet and exercise.

Further, the most important part of losing weight is the diet, which includes, not only, a solid understanding of what protein, fats and carbs do, but how they work and how they can work against you. Knowledge of complex carbs v. regular carbs can go a long way in weight loss. Proportioning the proper amount of carb/fat/protein intake/day goes a long way in losing weight. I could double my caloric intake from 2,500 to 5,000/day and as long as it is followed correctly with meal rationing and the proper carb/fat/protein breakout, I will actually lose fat, lean out and build muscle.

What time you eat is indeed important.

Exercise is important.

If you are giving me citations from a government website or cnn on diet and exercise, you have already lost this argument.

so you are disputing the fact that calories out > calories in = weight loss?

I stand by my argument that it doesn't matter what he eats or how he exercises, as long as he meets the above criteria. You simply stand to confuse him by dishing out shit advice on nutrient timing and ratios- that matters about .01%. Some people can go low carb, some can't. Some people can run 30 miles a week, some can't. If this guy is just getting ready for a wedding he simply needs to figure out how he can consume less calories than he burns- whatever works best for him.

The CNN article was about a college professor who dropped 27 lbs in 2 months eating Twinkies. It was a good example of how what you eat matters less than how much you eat (he was consuming 1800 cal/day). Thanks for reading.

Also you doubling of caloric intake hypothesis is complete bullshit unless you are burning 2500 additional calories/day as well (assuming no significant hormone alteration). You can't just ignore science (which has proven the whole calorie, calorie out thing).

Stop giving bullshit, broscience bodybuilder advice to someone looking to fit into his suit on his bros wedding day.

Nov 16, 2011
duffmt6:
Nefarious-:
duffmt6:
Nefarious-:
duffmt6:

(calories out > calories in) = weight loss...it doesn't matter how you achieve this.

http://www.nutrition.com.sg/ha/hacalcal.asp
^calculate maintenance and then eat 500-800 calories less per day (~3300 calories = 1lb). it doesn't matter what time you eat, what your protein/fat/carb ratio is or what type of exercises you are doing as long as you are burning more calories than you take in. instead your focus should be on the best way for you to stick to a diet and exercise regimen that meets this criteria. if you eat extra you need to exercise more and vice versa.

optional:
buy some clenbuterol, ephedrine, caffeine, yohimbe, geranamine, and synephrine. take all of those 3x every day. you will never need to eat (you also run a ~50% chance of death).

Ignore everything in this post.

please explain

Edit:
In case I need citations?
http://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/calories/index.html
Also, was obviously kidding about the last part

Edit #2:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.... just some anecdotal evidence as well.

First of all:

"it doesn't matter what time you eat, what your protein/fat/carb ratio is or what type of exercises you are doing as long as you are burning more calories than you take in. instead your focus should be on the best way for you to stick to a diet and exercise regimen that meets this criteria. if you eat extra you need to exercise more and vice versa." - duffmt

Is circular logic. You are telling him that it doesn't matter how he plans out his diet or in what ratio his diet is split up OR what type of exercises he is doing, but rather he should be focusing on his diet and exercise.

Further, the most important part of losing weight is the diet, which includes, not only, a solid understanding of what protein, fats and carbs do, but how they work and how they can work against you. Knowledge of complex carbs v. regular carbs can go a long way in weight loss. Proportioning the proper amount of carb/fat/protein intake/day goes a long way in losing weight. I could double my caloric intake from 2,500 to 5,000/day and as long as it is followed correctly with meal rationing and the proper carb/fat/protein breakout, I will actually lose fat, lean out and build muscle.

What time you eat is indeed important.

Exercise is important.

If you are giving me citations from a government website or cnn on diet and exercise, you have already lost this argument.

so you are disputing the fact that calories out > calories in = weight loss?

I stand by my argument that it doesn't matter what he eats or how he exercises, as long as he meets the above criteria. You simply stand to confuse him by dishing out shit advice on nutrient timing and ratios- that matters about .01%. Some people can go low carb, some can't. Some people can run 30 miles a week, some can't. If this guy is just getting ready for a wedding he simply needs to figure out how he can consume less calories than he burns- whatever works best for him.

The CNN article was about a college professor who dropped 27 lbs in 2 months eating Twinkies. It was a good example of how what you eat matters less than how much you eat (he was consuming 1800 cal/day). Thanks for reading.

Also you doubling of caloric intake hypothesis is complete bullshit unless you are burning 2500 additional calories/day as well (assuming no significant hormone alteration). You can't just ignore science (which has proven the whole calorie, calorie out thing).

Stop giving bullshit, broscience bodybuilder advice to someone looking to fit into his suit on his bros wedding day.

Calories out > Calories in will cause you to lose weight no question. So agree with Duff.

BUT

Eating in certain proportions of carbs( also what type of carbs), protein (also what type of protein), and fats (also what type of fats), will affect the chemical reaction rates in your body, otherwise known as metabolism.

If your caloric maintenance is 2800cals/day, and you take out 500, and maintain same routine, you will lose weight. Those cals can come from anything. Steak, pasta, twinkies etc.

Although eating lets say 1800 cals of twinkies, will undoubtedly lower your energy levels, and most likely make you more tired/ sedentary, and less likely to work out and burn additional calories. I'm also guessing twinkies have crap ton of simple sugars, saturated fats, and and additional nutritional value.

So you are both right to an extent. But you will lose weight eating less.

no way kimosabe, this is my house now --Brennan Huff

Nov 16, 2011
DNOsaur:

Eating in certain proportions of carbs( also what type of carbs), protein (also what type of protein), and fats (also what type of fats), will affect the chemical reaction rates in your body, otherwise known as metabolism.

I agree with this. But for a 7 week crash diet, this is insubstantial. I'm by no means advocating eating shitty foods long term (not saying it is even healthy for the short term, but to lose weight it doesn't really make a difference).

Re: Energy
Everyone responds to carbs differently, which is why I told the OP to do whatever works best for him, as long as it is calorie restrictive.

Nov 17, 2011
Nefarious-:
duffmt6:
Nefarious-:
duffmt6:

(calories out > calories in) = weight loss...it doesn't matter how you achieve this.

http://www.nutrition.com.sg/ha/hacalcal.asp
^calculate maintenance and then eat 500-800 calories less per day (~3300 calories = 1lb). it doesn't matter what time you eat, what your protein/fat/carb ratio is or what type of exercises you are doing as long as you are burning more calories than you take in. instead your focus should be on the best way for you to stick to a diet and exercise regimen that meets this criteria. if you eat extra you need to exercise more and vice versa.

optional:
buy some clenbuterol, ephedrine, caffeine, yohimbe, geranamine, and synephrine. take all of those 3x every day. you will never need to eat (you also run a ~50% chance of death).

Ignore everything in this post.

please explain

Edit:
In case I need citations?
http://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/calories/index.html
Also, was obviously kidding about the last part

Edit #2:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.... just some anecdotal evidence as well.

First of all:

"it doesn't matter what time you eat, what your protein/fat/carb ratio is or what type of exercises you are doing as long as you are burning more calories than you take in. instead your focus should be on the best way for you to stick to a diet and exercise regimen that meets this criteria. if you eat extra you need to exercise more and vice versa." - duffmt

Is circular logic. You are telling him that it doesn't matter how he plans out his diet or in what ratio his diet is split up OR what type of exercises he is doing, but rather he should be focusing on his diet and exercise.

Further, the most important part of losing weight is the diet, which includes, not only, a solid understanding of what protein, fats and carbs do, but how they work and how they can work against you. Knowledge of complex carbs v. regular carbs can go a long way in weight loss. Proportioning the proper amount of carb/fat/protein intake/day goes a long way in losing weight. I could double my caloric intake from 2,500 to 5,000/day and as long as it is followed correctly with meal rationing and the proper carb/fat/protein breakout, I will actually lose fat, lean out and build muscle.

What time you eat is indeed important.

Exercise is important.

If you are giving me citations from a government website or cnn on diet and exercise, you have already lost this argument.

Im sorry but what time you eat is not important, all that matters is total calories, at the end of the day. This is assuming you eat meals with protein/carbs and fats. You could eat one meal a day or 10 meals as long as you are under your caloric daily needs you will lose weight.

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Nov 16, 2011

Im very confused Nefarious....why wouldnt you want to take that mixture?

I eat success for breakfast...with skim milk

Nov 16, 2011
TonyPerkis:

Im very confused Nefarious....why wouldnt you want to take that mixture?

Tony used that mixture every day.

Nov 16, 2011

Just run like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1V5ngy-0LE8
Everywhere

I eat success for breakfast...with skim milk

Nov 16, 2011

And I cancelled lunch due to lack of hustle

I eat success for breakfast...with skim milk

Nov 16, 2011

Here's how I dropped 30 pounds in 8 weeks:
1. I ran 5 days a week, averaging about 4 miles a day (anywhere between 2 and 8 on any single day) up and down a mile long hill (a very steep one at that).
2. Eating nothing but Cereal, Ramen Noodles and PBJs whenever I wasn't at work. I started working about three weeks into this so for about three weeks, I was averaging 1k calories a day tops (not feasible if you're working to be honest). Once I started working, I would eat a reasonable (not healthy per se, but normal portions) lunch everyday and kept eating PBJs before going for a run at night.

This is as unhealthy as it sounds, but it works. I started dropping weight at a ridiculous rate as I upped the mileage on my runs and lost muscle bulk as well. That being said, this completely changed my metabolism and I've now gained back maybe 15 pounds, but in muscle.
I'm 6-0, about 170 right now and I went from 185 to 155 in that period.

Nov 16, 2011

Velocity Diet. Guaranteed way to lose way, and quickly. The premise is all protein shakes for 4 weeks, with fish oil caps, milled flax seed, and a stimulant (coffee/caffeine). You drink about 5 whey protein shakes a day, and take about 6 fish oils caps as well. Mix in some milled flax seed in every other shake. You are allowed 1 food meal a week, when you can eat anything you want in any quantity you want.

I would not do this diet with much cardio, because your energy levels when running will be noticeably lower. I have done it on a heavy weight lifting regime, where I lift 5-6/week. Also note, this is not a ketosis diet (like atkins), because you are eating carbs, but at a very low level. It will work, there is no doubt, and you won't be hungry. But you WILL crave certain tastes like nobody's business.

The results are pretty dramatic, and if you stick to it, you will lose a lot of weight very quickly.

Do a search on Bodybuiling.com or google to see results and other tips for it.

no way kimosabe, this is my house now --Brennan Huff

Nov 16, 2011

The velocity diet is the one off of TNation right? thing is like 500 bucks

I eat success for breakfast...with skim milk

Nov 16, 2011
TonyPerkis:

The velocity diet is the one off of TNation right? thing is like 500 bucks

Tnation has a rendition of it. The reason its 500 bucks is because they want you to buy their super inflated products on their site. You can do it for less than 4 dollars a day. Much cheaper than eating normal food. So only about 100 per month.

Go to nutraplanet.com and buy the cheapest whey protein, cheapest fish oil, and go to your supermarket for the milled flax seed.

no way kimosabe, this is my house now --Brennan Huff

Nov 16, 2011

I tell you what, you keep throwing around your cnn and .gov articles and I will stick to the 10+ years of real world power lifting and weighlifting and crossfit experience that I have.

If you want to go through life thinking that eating only 2 big macs a day is the way to lose weight, go for it.

Every post you make is filled with idiocy. Do some fucking research on something for once in your life aside reading a pointless research article about a professor that ate twinkies to lose weight.

Guess what dipshit, not eating anything results in weight loss too.

Nov 16, 2011
Nefarious-:

I tell you what, you keep throwing around your cnn and .gov articles and I will stick to the 10+ years of real world power lifting and weighlifting and crossfit experience that I have.

If you want to go through life thinking that eating only 2 big macs a day is the way to lose weight, go for it.

Every post you make is filled with idiocy. Do some fucking research on something for once in your life aside reading a pointless research article about a professor that ate twinkies to lose weight.

Guess what dipshit, not eating anything results in weight loss too.

^ ROID RAGE?

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Nov 16, 2011
UFOinsider:
Nefarious-:

I tell you what, you keep throwing around your cnn and .gov articles and I will stick to the 10+ years of real world power lifting and weighlifting and crossfit experience that I have.

If you want to go through life thinking that eating only 2 big macs a day is the way to lose weight, go for it.

Every post you make is filled with idiocy. Do some fucking research on something for once in your life aside reading a pointless research article about a professor that ate twinkies to lose weight.

Guess what dipshit, not eating anything results in weight loss too.

^ ROID RAGE?

No, roid rage is always in caps.

Nov 16, 2011
Nefarious-:

I tell you what, you keep throwing around your cnn and .gov articles and I will stick to the 10+ years of real world power lifting and weighlifting and crossfit experience that I have.

If you want to go through life thinking that eating only 2 big macs a day is the way to lose weight, go for it.

Every post you make is filled with idiocy. Do some fucking research on something for once in your life aside reading a pointless research article about a professor that ate twinkies to lose weight.

Guess what dipshit, not eating anything results in weight loss too.

Sweet ad hominems. No substance. Gtfo if you are just going to bitch about the (solid) advice I gave. This dude is not a powerlifter/bodybuilder. Get out of meathead mode for 5 minutes and actually think about what will benefit the OP.

Also, a Big Mac is 540 calories. 2 of those a day and you would definitely lose weight, even without exercise. Not healthy for the long term (sodium, saturated fat), but you still lose weight.

I'm actually pretty well versed on sports nutrition and supplementation. I just realize that not every person is going home and crushing 600lb dead lifts while sucking down protein shakes.

Nov 16, 2011
duffmt6:
Nefarious-:

I tell you what, you keep throwing around your cnn and .gov articles and I will stick to the 10+ years of real world power lifting and weighlifting and crossfit experience that I have.

If you want to go through life thinking that eating only 2 big macs a day is the way to lose weight, go for it.

Every post you make is filled with idiocy. Do some fucking research on something for once in your life aside reading a pointless research article about a professor that ate twinkies to lose weight.

Guess what dipshit, not eating anything results in weight loss too.

Sweet ad hominems. No substance. Gtfo if you are just going to bitch about the (solid) advice I gave. This dude is not a powerlifter/bodybuilder. Get out of meathead mode for 5 minutes and actually think about what will benefit the OP.

Also, a Big Mac is 540 calories. 2 of those a day and you would definitely lose weight, even without exercise. Not healthy for the long term (sodium, saturated fat), but you still lose weight.

I'm actually pretty well versed on sports nutrition and supplementation. I just realize that not every person is going home and crushing 600lb dead lifts while sucking down protein shakes.

It can't be an ad hominem if it is a fact. Your replies are filled with idiocy.

You are not well versed on anything because you stated previously that carb/fat/potein knowledge is not important, what time you eat is not important, etc.

Nov 16, 2011
Nefarious-:
duffmt6:
Nefarious-:

I tell you what, you keep throwing around your cnn and .gov articles and I will stick to the 10+ years of real world power lifting and weighlifting and crossfit experience that I have.

If you want to go through life thinking that eating only 2 big macs a day is the way to lose weight, go for it.

Every post you make is filled with idiocy. Do some fucking research on something for once in your life aside reading a pointless research article about a professor that ate twinkies to lose weight.

Guess what dipshit, not eating anything results in weight loss too.

Sweet ad hominems. No substance. Gtfo if you are just going to bitch about the (solid) advice I gave. This dude is not a powerlifter/bodybuilder. Get out of meathead mode for 5 minutes and actually think about what will benefit the OP.

Also, a Big Mac is 540 calories. 2 of those a day and you would definitely lose weight, even without exercise. Not healthy for the long term (sodium, saturated fat), but you still lose weight.

I'm actually pretty well versed on sports nutrition and supplementation. I just realize that not every person is going home and crushing 600lb dead lifts while sucking down protein shakes.

It can't be an ad hominem if it is a fact. Your replies are filled with idiocy.

You are not well versed on anything because you stated previously that carb/fat/potein knowledge is not important, what time you eat is not important, etc.

It's not for someone going on a 7 week crash diet for a wedding. For a powerlifter, yes. Bodybuilder, yes. For your average Joe, unequivocally no. Here's my ad hominem for you- you are a huge mook.

Nov 16, 2011
duffmt6:
Nefarious-:
duffmt6:
Nefarious-:

I tell you what, you keep throwing around your cnn and .gov articles and I will stick to the 10+ years of real world power lifting and weighlifting and crossfit experience that I have.

If you want to go through life thinking that eating only 2 big macs a day is the way to lose weight, go for it.

Every post you make is filled with idiocy. Do some fucking research on something for once in your life aside reading a pointless research article about a professor that ate twinkies to lose weight.

Guess what dipshit, not eating anything results in weight loss too.

Sweet ad hominems. No substance. Gtfo if you are just going to bitch about the (solid) advice I gave. This dude is not a powerlifter/bodybuilder. Get out of meathead mode for 5 minutes and actually think about what will benefit the OP.

Also, a Big Mac is 540 calories. 2 of those a day and you would definitely lose weight, even without exercise. Not healthy for the long term (sodium, saturated fat), but you still lose weight.

I'm actually pretty well versed on sports nutrition and supplementation. I just realize that not every person is going home and crushing 600lb dead lifts while sucking down protein shakes.

It can't be an ad hominem if it is a fact. Your replies are filled with idiocy.

You are not well versed on anything because you stated previously that carb/fat/potein knowledge is not important, what time you eat is not important, etc.

It's not for someone going on a 7 week crash diet for a wedding. For a powerlifter, yes. Bodybuilder, yes. For your average Joe, unequivocally no. Here's my ad hominem for you- you are a huge mook.

god damn it duff, you go and use a word like mook, a word that I love, and it makes me happy and not want to slander you.

Nov 16, 2011
Nefarious-:
duffmt6:
Nefarious-:
duffmt6:
Nefarious-:

I tell you what, you keep throwing around your cnn and .gov articles and I will stick to the 10+ years of real world power lifting and weighlifting and crossfit experience that I have.

If you want to go through life thinking that eating only 2 big macs a day is the way to lose weight, go for it.

Every post you make is filled with idiocy. Do some fucking research on something for once in your life aside reading a pointless research article about a professor that ate twinkies to lose weight.

Guess what dipshit, not eating anything results in weight loss too.

Sweet ad hominems. No substance. Gtfo if you are just going to bitch about the (solid) advice I gave. This dude is not a powerlifter/bodybuilder. Get out of meathead mode for 5 minutes and actually think about what will benefit the OP.

Also, a Big Mac is 540 calories. 2 of those a day and you would definitely lose weight, even without exercise. Not healthy for the long term (sodium, saturated fat), but you still lose weight.

I'm actually pretty well versed on sports nutrition and supplementation. I just realize that not every person is going home and crushing 600lb dead lifts while sucking down protein shakes.

It can't be an ad hominem if it is a fact. Your replies are filled with idiocy.

You are not well versed on anything because you stated previously that carb/fat/potein knowledge is not important, what time you eat is not important, etc.

It's not for someone going on a 7 week crash diet for a wedding. For a powerlifter, yes. Bodybuilder, yes. For your average Joe, unequivocally no. Here's my ad hominem for you- you are a huge mook.

god damn it duff, you go and use a word like mook, a word that I love, and it makes me happy and not want to slander you.

fair enough. differences settled.

Nov 16, 2011
Nefarious-:
duffmt6:
Nefarious-:
duffmt6:
Nefarious-:

I tell you what, you keep throwing around your cnn and .gov articles and I will stick to the 10+ years of real world power lifting and weighlifting and crossfit experience that I have.

If you want to go through life thinking that eating only 2 big macs a day is the way to lose weight, go for it.

Every post you make is filled with idiocy. Do some fucking research on something for once in your life aside reading a pointless research article about a professor that ate twinkies to lose weight.

Guess what dipshit, not eating anything results in weight loss too.

Sweet ad hominems. No substance. Gtfo if you are just going to bitch about the (solid) advice I gave. This dude is not a powerlifter/bodybuilder. Get out of meathead mode for 5 minutes and actually think about what will benefit the OP.

Also, a Big Mac is 540 calories. 2 of those a day and you would definitely lose weight, even without exercise. Not healthy for the long term (sodium, saturated fat), but you still lose weight.

I'm actually pretty well versed on sports nutrition and supplementation. I just realize that not every person is going home and crushing 600lb dead lifts while sucking down protein shakes.

It can't be an ad hominem if it is a fact. Your replies are filled with idiocy.

You are not well versed on anything because you stated previously that carb/fat/potein knowledge is not important, what time you eat is not important, etc.

It's not for someone going on a 7 week crash diet for a wedding. For a powerlifter, yes. Bodybuilder, yes. For your average Joe, unequivocally no. Here's my ad hominem for you- you are a huge mook.

god damn it duff, you go and use a word like mook, a word that I love, and it makes me happy and not want to slander you.

I know how this can be settled...

Bear Fight.

Tomorrow.

Galway Hooker.

no way kimosabe, this is my house now --Brennan Huff

Feb 9, 2019
Nefarious-:

real world power lifting and weighlifting and crossfit experience that I have

CrossFit....real world power lifting.

Yeah right.

Feb 9, 2019

Thats right. OP needs to start sling cars like monster machines and he will be ready for the final boss.

Nov 16, 2011

Drink the piss of pregnant women, it is scientifically proven to reduce a shit ton of weight.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/nov/02/health/he-...

Nov 16, 2011

Just Jack Hoffman.

Nov 16, 2011
Midas Mulligan Magoo:

Just Jack Hoffman.

Hah.

Nov 16, 2011

@ DNOsaur you get what you pay for though...if you buy the shit supps you're gonna get shit result

I eat success for breakfast...with skim milk

Nov 16, 2011
TonyPerkis:

@ DNOsaur you get what you pay for though...if you buy the shit supps you're gonna get shit result

Not joking, Tnation's supps are the exact same. The ingredients are so simple for the diet, it doesn't matter where you get them from. nutraplanet and bulknutrtion sell the higher end supplements for very cheap, and the are better brands than Tnation for sure. Things like fish oil and whey are pretty standard across the board, all you pay extra for is the taste quality and how well the protein mixes.

But I agree with if you pay cheap for supplements, you get bad supplements. But just not applicable for the supplements in this diet.

no way kimosabe, this is my house now --Brennan Huff

Nov 16, 2011
TonyPerkis:

@ DNOsaur you get what you pay for though...if you buy the shit supps you're gonna get shit result

Nah not really. You can spend more for whey protein isolates vs. whey protein concentrate- this might be easier on the stomach for some people, but for many the concentrates aren't an issue. I agree you should get a decent quality fish oil so you aren't eating mercury. For stimulants, really all you need is caffeine and maybe some ephedrine, which are both cheap (you can get ephedrine sulfate in Bronkaid). A good multi might be a good idea as well. NOW ADAM is pretty inexpensive. Flax seed is flax seed.

The supps they try to sell you in the TNation article aren't even good (if I remember correctly, Hot Rox are one of the recommendations and these are basically just caffeine + other crap).

Just to reiterate, the supps really are just tertiary and help you stay on the diet and do the exercise, which is the most important part. The diet can be done for less than your normal cost of food.

Nov 16, 2011

Im gonna agree with you though that Tnation is a load of crap..only thing good they have is FlameOut (Fish oils)

prosource.net is great ... same as site you mentioned i think

I eat success for breakfast...with skim milk

Nov 16, 2011

Flax seed may be inexpensive, but I can give you Flake seed for free.

Nov 16, 2011
Flake:

Flax seed may be inexpensive, but I can give you Flake seed for free.

You need to chill out on the sex jokes.

Nov 16, 2011
Fantasy Football Rodgers60 minutesCJ2k:
Flake:

Flax seed may be inexpensive, but I can give you Flake seed for free.

You need to chill out on the sex jokes.

But it's so hard...

Nov 16, 2011

Aw, I love happy endings.

Nov 16, 2011

Thank you for all this help. I never expected this much. I will have a better chance to read all of this after work but thanks a bunch. Anyone in NYC, I owe beers too.

"Teachers open the door, you enter by yourself".

Nov 16, 2011
DSKisNOTGUILTY:

Thank you for all this help. I never expected this much. I will have a better chance to read all of this after work but thanks a bunch. Anyone in NYC, I owe beers too.

Come to happy hour this week.

EDIT

You can buy me dranks since you're on a diet now.

Nov 16, 2011
Flake:
DSKisNOTGUILTY:

Thank you for all this help. I never expected this much. I will have a better chance to read all of this after work but thanks a bunch. Anyone in NYC, I owe beers too.

Come to happy hour this week.

EDIT

You can buy me dranks since you're on a diet now.

Maybe he can have a Mich Ultra?

Nov 16, 2011
duffmt6:
Flake:
DSKisNOTGUILTY:

Thank you for all this help. I never expected this much. I will have a better chance to read all of this after work but thanks a bunch. Anyone in NYC, I owe beers too.

Come to happy hour this week.

EDIT

You can buy me dranks since you're on a diet now.

Maybe he can have a Mich Ultra?

No, iced water for him only after 6,000 calories.

Nov 16, 2011
Flake:
DSKisNOTGUILTY:

Thank you for all this help. I never expected this much. I will have a better chance to read all of this after work but thanks a bunch. Anyone in NYC, I owe beers too.

Come to happy hour this week.

EDIT

You can buy me dranks since you're on a diet now.

Where's the happy hour?

"Teachers open the door, you enter by yourself".

Nov 16, 2011
DSKisNOTGUILTY:
Flake:
DSKisNOTGUILTY:

Thank you for all this help. I never expected this much. I will have a better chance to read all of this after work but thanks a bunch. Anyone in NYC, I owe beers too.

Come to happy hour this week.

EDIT

You can buy me dranks since you're on a diet now.

Where's the happy hour?

http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/wso-thanksgi...

Nov 16, 2011

I suppose everyone's body is different, but with me I find the easiest way to lose weight is to skip the exercise and just eat a lot less. If I exercise I get super hungry and end up eating even more than I did before. The first 4-5 days really suck (drinking lots of cold water helps) but after that you stomach and appetite shrink.

Nov 16, 2011
Nov 16, 2011

.

Nov 17, 2011

smaller portions
tuna and salad (no seasoning)
180 mins of cardio pero week.
weight traininglimit carbs, fat, coffee and salt intake.

Guaranteed at least 2 pounds per week.

Nov 17, 2011

Read the 4-Hour Body. Some of the stuff is a little off/unproven, but the slow carb approach is a great way to ease into dieting. Its stupidly easy to follow. If you have been eating 4k (let alone 6k), the weight will come flying off. The book also does a good job introducing macronutrients and the roles.

If you want more, google Lyle McDonald. His site has a ton of great articles on nutrition.

I will say, perhaps to the disapproval of other posters, that crash dieting for 7 weeks is not a great plan. You can lose more weight, but you'll lose a good amount of lean tissue too. Now, adipose tissue has a muscle sparing effect, but incorporating some heavy lifts will work wonders.

If slow carb doesn't work, try a ketogenic diet. That will kill your appetite fast. Just don't screw it up like some people: don't eat tons of nuts, butter, etc. Try to stick lean meat, healthy fats in seafood, etc. If you are really struggling, try some appetite suppressants.

Whatever you do, keep your protein up, especially if you exercise. Aim for 1 g per lb of body weight. Remember, a gram of protein actually has less caloric content than a gram of carbs, due to the thermic effect of protein.

Try to "couch to 10k" program for running. I don't run personally, but some friends had great success with it.

As an aside:

Nefarious-:

I am 6'1 230 right now. I am probably taking in about 4k calories/day to support my weight lifting.

I am fairly obese according to the BMI despite my 8-10% body fat.

Very impressive, especially working in finance. I like to maintain a similar tone, although I am an embarrassing fraction of your size.

Nov 18, 2011

On a serious note..just get liposuction..its fast, effective, safe, and looks good...

or just get plastic surgery on your abs

http://www.plasticsurgeryportal.com/articles/abdom...

I eat success for breakfast...with skim milk

Nov 18, 2011

Nefarious, you're a fucken beast, bro.

Nov 18, 2011
Flake:

Nefarious, you're a fucken beast, bro.

No doubt.

What happened to your certified user status?

Nov 18, 2011
Nefarious-:
Flake:

Nefarious, you're a fucken beast, bro.

No doubt.

What happened to your certified user status?

I've been a bad boy.

Nov 18, 2011

Mild bulimia seems to work wonders for most of the sorority girls on my campus. If that doesn't cut it, addherol will burn off those stubborn extra pounds.

Jan 27, 2019

"mild bulimia" lmao

thots and prayers

Nov 20, 2011

Every year my desk has a weight loss challenge, and this past year I dropped about 10% 160 -> 145 in 4 weeks mostly by just eating better. My diet consisted of Salads or Fish (Salmon, Tuna, Halibut, etc), sometimes Chicken for mains, with some vegetables, would eat fruit and some almonds if I wanted a snack. Just changing my diet and exercising once or twice a week I dropped 15, I'm sure you can meet your target with relative ease if you put in the effort.

Nov 21, 2011

how's your progress?

Nov 22, 2011

Have a car problem? Ask a bodybuilding forum.

Have a finance problem? Ask a car forum.

Have a weight problem? Ask a finance forum.

Come on OP, you're getting so many people telling you a lot of different places and you can't even see what they look like. Well There is some good advice in here, you probably won't be able to sort it from the bullshit. Go to a forum specific to this kind of stuff.

Nov 22, 2011

take it easy over there callaghan...just let us tell him he needs to become anorexic

I eat success for breakfast...with skim milk

Nov 22, 2011

I heard that if you jump out of a window your body core will fall faster then your fat.... Im not 100% sure this is true as I haven't tried it. Do let me know if you do.

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays

Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne

Nov 22, 2011

I love how someone has hit OP with monkey shit for every post of his. Real classy especially after that debate going on in the other thread. What did you do?

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Jan 27, 2019

Don't know the science behind it. Don't know if it matters when (time of day) you do it, but take it from a 54 yr old who has done all kinds of workouts since a15. HIIT works (High Intensity Interval Training). It works best for me when I:

  1. knock out drinking (at least during the week- c'mon you have to live!)
  2. Do it early in the morning (more to just get it done. I think yiou get the benefit of it burning calories all day but I don't know for sure)
  3. Minimize (not eliminate) carbs
  4. Lots of protein and vegetables.

The HIIT itself can be mainly cardio or combine cardio with weights (light, lots of reps). The whole concept is about crushing it in a short period of time (30 minutes). On for a minute, off for 15 seconds. No BSing with people, standing around, resting, etc. Intense for a minute, recovery for 15 seconds. See things like P90X, Insanity, Asylum, 21 Day Fix (Pretty much all the Beach Body stuff).

I'm naturally stocky. Doing this has made me more lean / cut and I challenge anyone to get through the intensive cardio without wanting to puke.

I used to spend hours in the gym. Heavy lift (benched 305 weighing 160 way back in the day), burn out session, jump rope, spin class, pickup hoop (one of the better workouts) and none of them compare to HIIT! I'm 200 now. Was 225 and lost 25 doing this for about 6 months. I've maintained the lifestyle albeit not as intense but return to it whenever I feel like I'm putting on the lbs.

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Jan 27, 2019

This thread was resurrected from deep in the crypts.

Jan 27, 2019

No one here even gave a straight answer lol. Just calculate your TDEE and cut 500-700 calories from that.

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Jan 29, 2019

You received a lot of great advice. I would recommend not just a carb limit but a food limit all together, as well as the hours of the day. If you would keep your food intake between the hours of 7-7 it could help you significantly. I find personally that eating late is never good (not because of science but simply that lack of self-control and bad habits can get the better of you) and if you have to because of work, keep it strictly healthy (green and/or baked/steamed)

I would also recommend that you work out with a weight lifting, ab and cardio routine. I would try to get to a place where you can run(even if slowly) a mile the first week and up it to two (second week) and you can add as you reasonably see fit. Try to run 2-3 times a week and supplement for recovery. Weight train on the days in between until you get the kind of stamina to be able to do both the same day. I would start with twice and week on the weight training and up it if you like. Abs, there is an app called Six Pack in 30 days, i thought it was BS until i tried it. They have a beginner level, intermediate and Advanced. Start on the Intermediate, finish it and go to the advanced one. (its free)

If you follow these you will not only lose weight but you will get a favorable body composition, and maybe even a six/eight pack. You will not only feel good about your progress but it might even turn into a permanent life style change.

Supplements(feel free to criticize):
I personally like-
Fish Oil (joints, heart and immunity health), Multi-vitamins, and Whey Protein (Vegan/Veggie proteins are healthier but for the love of God I can't stand the taste)

I hope this was helpful and that you meet your goals! Good Luck!

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