Lunch: an enemy or an ally

Fellow monkeys,

Just out of curiosity, do you consider lunch as an enemy or as an ally?

I mean, firm where I'm working now (F100) has a work canteen where everyday are offered rich plates such as pork ribs, fried chicken, pasta, fish and so on. I am trying to balance it eating too heavy in workout days and cutting down portions in days off.

Downside of eating too heavy is that makes me want to take a nap on Excel models, while downside of cutting portions is to be hungry throughout the day

Your eating habits?

Disclosure: I know lunch is for wimps

 

I eat once a day. And a mug of broth and micronutrient shake within an hour or so of that. You 3X a day with snacks people are reducing longevity and wasting time.

heister: Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad. https://arthuxtable.com/
 
GoldenCinderblock:
I eat once a day. And a mug of broth and micronutrient shake within an hour or so of that. You 3X a day with snacks people are reducing longevity and wasting time.

Counterpoint: we've seen your broth, and it's fucking disgusting

"Son, life is hard. But it's harder if you're stupid." - my dad
 
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Real Marcus Halberstram:
Fellow monkeys,

Just out of curiosity, do you consider lunch as an enemy or as an ally?

I mean, firm where I'm working now (F100) has a work canteen where everyday are offered rich plates such as pork ribs, fried chicken, pasta, fish and so on. I am trying to balance it eating too heavy in workout days and cutting down portions in days off.
Downside of eating too heavy is that makes me want to take a nap on Excel models, while downside of cutting portions is to be hungry throughout the day

Your eating habits?

Disclosure: I know lunch is for wimps

Plan on getting the fish and then saving the leftovers in a container in the fridge for two weeks and then re-heating it at about 9:30am one morning, conveniently before the 10am meeting in the conference room across from the kitchen and smelling up 2 floors of the office with fish.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

I like to keep my protein relatively moderate on workout days (250-300g), with a good amount of carbs (350g range), and fairly low fat (~90g). On rest days, I will bump up the protein to provide more satiation and will cut carbs back by 100-150g compared to workout days, keeping fat unchanged. I will also add a lot more salad and veggies on off days to keep me feeling full in the absence of carbs. I meal prep though, because this can be tough with an office cafeteria.

In terms of protein, I would opt for things that aren't drowned in a sweet sauce and/or aren't fried. Outside of that, it doesn't really matter whether it's beef, chicken, fish, pork, etc. as long as you aren't scarfing down an excessive amount of red meat every day, and you are taking the varying fat content of each protein source into account. For carbs, I tend to avoid pasta for the most part and will go with any sort of rice as my first choice or alternatively something like potatoes (not fries, but if you can get a baked potato, that's money).

This strategy has helped me drastically reduce the food coma effect during working hours, and it's done wonders for my digestive system as well while remaining conducive to my powerlifting program and body composition. I'm obviously not familiar with the specifics of your cafeteria but you should be able to make it work at least to a good degree if you give your food choices some thought.

 

I went through a period where I tried every supplement under the sun, and honestly I think 99% of them are unnecessary. If you can digest whey protein well, or can afford to get a non-dairy protein powder, I think there might be a case for using them when work/life prevents you from getting enough from whole foods. Also, I think regular creatine monohydrate is good at a reasonable dose per day, the research on that is pretty robust. Then come your various vitamins and fish oil and all that jazz, but I'm guessing that's not what you were asking about.

Everything else I've tried has had virtually no effect for me, and things like BCAA products are getting a ton of negative research published on them, so I would advise to save some money and spend it on your food budget. Nothing beats a good diet of nutritious whole foods.

The only other thing that I will occasionally splurge on would be preworkouts, because admittedly I like some stims from time to time, but obviously this is again not necessary.

 

What is wrong with pasta for lunch (or overall)? I try to vary between pasta and rice (one week each) for lunch. I do meal prep on Sunday (cook all at once) and then just put everything together the night before as I don’t have much space in the fridge. I though pasta was good for the carbs to keep me going but it’s always good to learn something new. I normall eat around 40g of protein in chicken plus pasta/rice or 40g of protein from tuna plus pasta/rice for lunch. It’s a bit dull eating the same and I don’t really eat veg during lunch but I manage to get some during the evening when I get home. I also go to the gym 3x a week after work and lift somewhat heavy and do sprints. People in the gym ask me if I’m a footballer hahaha (soccer player is you are from the US)

 

There's nothing wrong with it in terms of macros, but many people have difficulty digesting pasta if you're eating a good amount of it consistently. Personally, I found that I get bloated and lethargic if I overdo the pasta, so these days I try to stick to rice or potato as my go-to carb source when doing meal preps. This doesn't mean I won't have pasta on the weekend or when going out, I don't think there's anything wrong with having it once in a while, or even regularly if your digestive system can handle it.

 
straighttohellxo:
You know who eats salads? Poor people

Said no one, ever.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

You are 22yo... this should be relatively easy. Spread your caloric intake out a little more through the day. Drink a lot of water. RE: supplements...at 22 if you eat right you shouldn't need anything unless you are trying to bench over 300 and/or get huge. At 42 it's a different story....you will need BCAAs / Glutamine in particular else the day after lifting you will wake up feeling like you fell out of a 3rd story window.

 

Between a pre-workout meal then protein + eggs/oatmeal post-workout, I rarely have enough appetite at normal lunch hours to put down anything larger than a small sandwich, if anything at all. Following this routine for a couple months now, I have come to find that the hunger makes me feel a little sharper if managed properly vs. going to eat gut bombs with coworkers.

 

You guys are too healthy for me. Sure I don't drink coffee so when I eat a heavier lunch I find myself lethargic. But who cares? That canteen @Real Marcus Halberstram" workplace sounds wonderful. If it's free then I'd be pigging out on the daily. And working out? Chill.

p.s. aren't you in Europe @Real Marcus Halberstram"? If so, is there any way they can be making the fried chicken/ ribs the right (the southern American) way? curious

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I haven'd a real lunch in years. That doesn't mean that I don't go but when I do it's a meeting with someone to talk about deals, projects and things like that (no, those don't count). Some days when I do this I have multiple lunches (one day I had 4 lunches with 4 different people) so those days basically drink water and order the most ridic rabbit food they have on the menu. Dinner on the other hand, that is when the warriors feast...

"I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing. " -GG
 

Try to eat more balanced meals with protein, complex carbs, good fats(avoid fats from processed food, fast food and trans fat) and make sure to consume greens for micronutrients. Low energy levels usually come from over eating, processed food, too much simple carbs and too high of a sugar intake. And of course caffeine crashes as well. A lack of consuming high quality, balanced meals is usually another reason people have low energy. And don't be afraid to eat whatever you want once in a while. Balance is everything. Some tips on carbs since modern diets are high in carbs- usually low quality carb sources:
1)Complex carbs provide lasting energy. 2)Simple carbs cause an insulin spike(ie- quick energy) followed by a crash. These are quick acting carbs and are best to eat after a workout. TL;DR: Eat balanced meals(protein, carbs, natural fats- not fats from processed foods or fast food) and regarding carbs, eat mostly complex carbs. Get more micro nutrients in your body through greens.

 

TheROI

I meal-prep before the week begins nowadays. It helps a lot, and cuts down the stress of having to choose over the "lesser" evil when it comes to corporate lunches. I had to switch to a more green-friendly diet, with less protein and sodium intake.

Once you get your diet down, work on doing cardio and other aerobic exercises. Reduce stress (if possible), then you're set.

No pain no game.
 

I've really gotten into intermittent feasting recently. I'll go 2,3,4 days at a time without eating a thing only water then I'll eat like 10 steaks and sleep for 18 hours.

It helps that my schedule is flexible. Last week I broke 16 minutes for 5k and benched three wheels so it's obviously working. It's also been scientifically proven by hunter gatherers I think I read somewhere.

 

I see lunch as an ally.

It’s nice to break up the day a bit and give my brain a break from work. I usually bring my lunch, so time isn’t an issue. Also, I eat around 4-6 times per day and the generally smaller meals don’t put me in a food coma.

 
Jamie_Diamond:
I eat 2 chipotle bowls and dont truly awaken from my coma till 6pm but thats when the real work is handed out anyways

Have you stepped into the world of eating 3 chipotle bowls? I have.

You can do itttttttttt.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

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