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Jan 5, 2013 - 9:37am

It is one of my favorite movies. The Social Networks maybe tops it, but other than that my favorite one. Very accurate, authentic movie. Great actors. I especially love the trading scene at the end. Saw it in cinema and then bought it on DVD to watch it again. Most of my friends think it's pretty boring, but that is mostly because they are not interested in finance.

It is far better than this shitty Wall Street Money never sleeps. Wall Street by Oliver Stone is simply cheap, inaccurate, unrealistic and full of cliches. Margin Call draws a far more accurate picture of the financial services industry.

Jan 6, 2013 - 6:02am

startups08:
"Arbitrage" was tangentially related to finance, which I found to be entertaining.

I haven't watched Arbitrage yet, as I am currently a little busy with my studies, but I will definitely once I have more time again. Thanks for the recommendation!

Jan 5, 2013 - 2:28pm

one question: what are actually the titles of the guys in margin call? is will emerson (played by paul bettany) a managing director? what is the rank of the guy portrayed by kevin spacey? and what is the rank of the department head portrayed by simon baker? thank you!

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Jan 6, 2013 - 3:17am

Kevin Spacey as Sam Rogers, Head of Sales and Trading.
Paul Bettany as Will Emerson, Head of Trading.
Jeremy Irons as John Tuld, CEO and Chairman of the Board.
Zachary Quinto as Peter Sullivan, Senior Risk Analyst.
Penn Badgley as Seth Bregman, Junior Risk Analyst.
Simon Baker as Jared Cohen, Head of Capital Markets.
Stanley Tucci as Eric Dale, Former Head of Risk Management.
Demi Moore as Sarah Robertson, Chief Risk Management Officer.

Source: Wikipedia

Jan 6, 2013 - 6:00am

blkprime:
Kevin Spacey as Sam Rogers, Head of Sales and Trading.
Paul Bettany as Will Emerson, Head of Trading.
Jeremy Irons as John Tuld, CEO and Chairman of the Board.
Zachary Quinto as Peter Sullivan, Senior Risk Analyst.
Penn Badgley as Seth Bregman, Junior Risk Analyst.
Simon Baker as Jared Cohen, Head of Capital Markets.
Stanley Tucci as Eric Dale, Former Head of Risk Management.
Demi Moore as Sarah Robertson, Chief Risk Management Officer.

Source: Wikipedia

thanks a lot!

Jan 6, 2013 - 8:00am

blkprime:
Kevin Spacey as Sam Rogers, Head of Sales and Trading.
Paul Bettany as Will Emerson, Head of Trading.
Jeremy Irons as John Tuld, CEO and Chairman of the Board.
Zachary Quinto as Peter Sullivan, Senior Risk Analyst.
Penn Badgley as Seth Bregman, Junior Risk Analyst.
Simon Baker as Jared Cohen, Head of Capital Markets.
Stanley Tucci as Eric Dale, Former Head of Risk Management.
Demi Moore as Sarah Robertson, Chief Risk Management Officer.

Source: Wikipedia

From watching the film, it's important to delineate that each of those roles was only for a product. Sam was head of S&T for MBS, he was essentially a product head. Will, below him, was head of trading but only for that product. Peter would be known as the desk analyst, a title that is used for a research, risk, or structuring employee placed directly on the desk and tasked specifically with that product. Jared as portrayed by Simon Baker was the actual division head, a role that would be responsible for overseeing the dozen or so product heads that would be Sam's peers from other assets.

For instance, in the fixed income area alone, there could be a "Head of Sales and Trading" for MBS, ABS, high yield/distressed, IG credit, FX, rates, municipals, etc. There could even be product heads within each of those. MBS, for instance, could be divided by rezzy, agency, commercial, and FX could be divided into G10, Asia, and LatAm.

This is corroborated by the several times that the characters in the film reference other floors within the firm: Sam mentions how bad the firing is for affecting employees even on other floors, and when discussing risk parameters they mention how losses from their floor (MBS) alone could bankrupt the firm.

Sorry to be a stickler, just wanted to point out that of those positions, few were actually very senior. Obviously the Boardmembers and C-suite officers were quite high-ranking (John Tuld, Sarah) and Simon Baker's character was a division head, but Sam was basically a tenured MD and Will could easily have been only a VP. Eric Dale was certainly not that senior; his role was limited purely to their product and he managed a two-person team.

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Jan 6, 2013 - 9:02am

trailer's good, but the "we did this on purpose to save our asses" is bullshit. This is why I hate Hollywood.

Reality hits you hard, bro...
Jan 6, 2013 - 3:27am

Wow...sorry for the...million posts? Safari just took a shit

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Jan 6, 2013 - 3:25am

Funny this is at the top again, I just watched this movie for the third time in as many months...I love it, can't get enough of it. Great movie. Really makes it hard to watch anything else finance-related. Great cast, great acting, great script, shot very well, great music.

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Jan 6, 2013 - 9:09am

I might (keyword here) be able to make it to the early viewing this week. If I do end up seeing it I can post a review if anyone is interested.

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Jan 6, 2013 - 9:11am

Margin Call Official Trailer Released (Originally Posted: 07/28/2011)

Finally! After almost a year, we finally have the official trailer and release date for Margin Call, and it looks great. Is it possible that someone finally wrote a decent Wall Street script? The A-Listers in this are legendary (Spacey, Irons, Tucci, and yes, Demi Moore), and the up-and-coming talent looks pretty decent, too. Hits theaters on October 21. Let me know what you guys think:

Jan 6, 2013 - 9:13am

Wow, it looks like it's not... preaching. That's a nice change from the steaming pile that was Wall Street 2. Sadly I doubt it'll get much of an audience.

Jan 6, 2013 - 9:15am

I wrote a review of the film when it premiered at Sundance earlier this year. You can read it here if you so choose.

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Jan 6, 2013 - 9:16am

Looks a little better than the movie lookatmycock's friends made in their basement. The storyline is no match though.

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Jan 6, 2013 - 9:20am
Flake:
Looks a little better than the movie lookatmycock's friends made in their basement. The storyline is no match though.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA thanks to your constructive criticisms, they're posting a new trailer later this week either tonight or tomorrow lol

Jan 6, 2013 - 9:21am

Can't wait haha

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Jan 6, 2013 - 9:22am

They should make a real wall street movie. It could be a 16 hour long docudrama about excel shortcuts.

I have to return some video tapes.
Jan 6, 2013 - 9:23am

Just read James Hunt's review which confirmed my assumptions. Trailer didn't even grab my attention. Plus, what's with the cheesy filler lines: "The first 12 hours of the financial crisis that changed history." I'll most likely pass on this one.

Jan 6, 2013 - 9:27am

Without getting into any specific details, I've actually been very familiar with this movie for quite some time now. Prior to production I had an opportunity to read the script and in my opinion, it was very good actually (would have made for a great book). Anyways, I didn't have an opportunity to see the cut that was screened at Sundance, however after purchasing the rights to the movie, Lions Gate may made it a bit more audience friendly (aka cleaned up / shortened it to be more in line with mainstream America's viewing habits).

On a side note, I recall after a few friends read the Wall St. 2 script, they were mortified over how bad it was (and we know how that turned out). So if the script is any indication (and after the studio massaged it a bit), it may turn out halfway decent.

Jan 6, 2013 - 9:31am

Hollywood needs to give the crisis a rest. We get it. We all know what went down.

People who don't get it hated WS2 because it was filled with technical jargon and a typical hollywood plot line, and people who knew what happened were bored by it. This will have some phony little cheesy plot line as well. These movies don't make enough money or have enough fans because only a very small percentage of the population can understand and follow them.

That being said, I took WS2 for what it was and enjoyed the movie and I'll probably enjoy this one. But c'mon hollywood...inside job, wall street 2, now margin call? There will be an opinion or political view pushed. I promise

Thanks
Jan 6, 2013 - 9:32am

I think they will do a Wall Street reality show next.

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Jan 6, 2013 - 9:33am

I break Wall Street movies into 3 distinct categories:

1) Documentaries - These are straight-up, just-the-facts, here's what happened kind of movies. There are a ton of these, and many of them are very good. Inside Job is a recent one that I thought was great.

2) Docu-Dramas - These are dramatizations of things that actually happened. There are quite a few of these as well, and most are pretty enjoyable. They tell a mostly accurate story but they use Hollywood actors and ramp up the drama. Prime examples are Barbarians at the Gate and, most recently, Too Big to Fail.

3) Dramas - These are few and far between, and the decent ones are even more rare. They often have no basis in actual events, and just serve to entertain and tell a story. The gold standard here is probably the original Wall Street and Trading Places.

I'm hoping Margin Call is decent flick, because there has been a ton of dreck in the third category over the years.

Jan 6, 2013 - 9:37am

Hahah I missed that one...thanks.

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Jan 6, 2013 - 9:38am

fcking double posts.

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Jan 6, 2013 - 9:39am

the movie categories was legit however the problem with the new wall street is that instead of making a totally new fictional story they tried to combine it with truthful recent events. While negatively viewed I found it entertaining.

Inside job was great. But again, they pushed a policy and very specific opinion very harshly: Regulation of the industry and salaries which gives a good documentary a bad after taste.

Haha where does Boiler Room fit in at?

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