MBA - Studying Abroad

I'm not in a program yet but will be applying R2. I've been looking at some of the exchange programs at some of these schools and they look really interesting. Who wouldn't want to live in Istanbul or Rio for a semester....sounds like a great idea to me.

Now....I'm going to be shooting for IBD post-MBA and I'm not currently in IBD so I don't have that going for me.....would it be smart to study abroad in the Fall or Spring of my 2nd year. I'm sure it all depends on whether I land an internship and get the offer immediately after I'm done.

Just curious to see how many of the MBA's on WSO have done this or is it considered a stupid decision if you're aiming for IBD or some other highly compettive industry....

I didn't have the typical undergrad experience so I couldn't study abroad so any kind of input would be cool, how was your experience? any crazy stories?

Thanks.

Comments (26)

Nov 22, 2013

I have no MBA experience but am in UG and got an offer and then studied abroad...I can't see how studying abroad after you've locked in the offer you want (as long as you still graduate on time etc) would be a bad idea. Someone with MBA experience should be able to add more- maybe there is something MBA specific I'm missing.

Nov 22, 2013

go for it, IBD you lock in your first year generally with summer internship, it isnt heavily recruited for during 2nd year

Nov 22, 2013

The downside of studying abroad for a semester during your second year is that it reduces that bonding/networking time you'll have within your class when everyone (more or less) has offers and just wants to hang out. I decided not to look into it at my M7 for precisely that reason.

Nov 23, 2013

Can you list top 10 MBA programs that have study abroad programs in place? I am not familiar with any except for Wharton/Lauder

Nov 23, 2013

all of them?

Nov 23, 2013

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Nov 23, 2013

i didnt do it.. but some of my MBA classmates did.. basically most of them fall into one of 2 categories:

1. those who had a fulltime gig lined up: went for it. 'didnt hear that it was a really amazing once in a lifetime opportunity.. but they had time to kill and just got more exposure..

2. those who did NOT have a fulltime gig lined up & went for it: had to try hard for jobs that were available during the time they were here..mostly these were average jobs.. nothing to write home about. Some people were job hunting even after graduation..

my recommendation: go only if you have your b-school exit opp locked in..

Nov 23, 2013

Don't most people go during their final semester?
It would seem to me that after doing a summer associates position and doing FT during the fall, most people should have a job by then.

happy to give advice; no asking for referrals please

Nov 23, 2013

At Kellogg, about 25% of people study abroad 2nd year, mostly during winter semester.

I really see it in two buckets:
1) People go to shitty schools in South America, Australlia, South Africa, etc, and party for 10 weeks and avoid the winter. They absolutely love it, but don't learn much.
2) Internationals who go to LBS, INSEAD, etc. They have a miserable time, but evidently having these schools on their resume helps them in their careers, back in their home countries (or at-least, they think so).

Don't go if you don't have a job. I would do it if I didn't have a live-in GF.

Nov 23, 2013
Hillary2016:

At Kellogg, about 25% of people study abroad 2nd year, mostly during winter semester.

I really see it in two buckets:
1) People go to shitty schools in South America, Australlia, South Africa, etc, and party for 10 weeks and avoid the winter. They absolutely love it, but don't learn much.
2) Internationals who go to LBS, INSEAD, etc. They have a miserable time, but evidently having these schools on their resume helps them in their careers, back in their home countries (or at-least, they think so).

Don't go if you don't have a job. I would do it if I didn't have a live-in GF.

By when do you need to decide if you want to study abroad in your 3rd semester - and when do you find out about consulting summer internship return offers?

Nov 23, 2013

I went. Loved it. Would go again. And again. And again. I also went in Undergrad and it is a much different experience traveling after you've worked and can appreciate your time / money much more.

If you're recruiting for PE or anything else that is "off-cycle" from IB/Consulting then it doesn't matter that you're away from campus. Academics were a joke abroad compared to Booth, but it was very cool to see a different teaching style and a 90%+ international student body. If you go to Europe or Asia you'll have tremendous opportunities to travel. So it really comes down to your interests and personal recruiting goals, but I don't think the picture painted here is fair based on my experiences and those who also went abroad.

Nov 23, 2013

Did you go during the year in the summer after kind of like Personal MBA Coach mentioned? I really want to do study abroad in Asia and get weird on the wkds there but am curious how integrated you are with the student body there during the experience, especially if you do it the summer you wrap up bschool

Nov 23, 2013

I don't think Harvard and Stanford allow them.

i.e. this is LBS' exchange website http://www.london.edu/programmes/mba/programmedeta...
Out of INSEAD, I don't believe that you have the option of doing a semester abroad since it's a 1 year program. But I remember a friend telling me one time that INSEAD shares job postings with HBS/Stanford/Wharton/Kellogg who are interested in Europe/Asia and they reciprocate by providing INSEAD students with US job leads.

Nov 23, 2013

Thanks. Let me rephrase my original question - not only H/W/S but say the top 5 US Schools. Now, would an MBA exchange here help in terms of getting a job at a BB ? If recruiters came to the school, would they look at someone who is there on an exchange or would they look at only those students who will graduate from there ?

Case : If someone from a good european school attends an Exchange Program at a top 5 US school, is there any benefit from a recruiting standpoint ? If given full access to the career service at the top 3 school, will the chances at getting a good job ( US or any location ) be significantly increased ? Or is it that recruiters will discount the exchange and look at the parent institution ( which might be lesser known ) ?

Nov 23, 2013
greatgolfer:

Thanks. Let me rephrase my original question - not only H/W/S but say the top 5 US Schools. Now, would an MBA exchange here help in terms of getting a job at a BB ? If recruiters came to the school, would they look at someone who is there on an exchange or would they look at only those students who will graduate from there ?

Case : If someone from a good european school attends an Exchange Program at a top 5 US school, is there any benefit from a recruiting standpoint ? If given full access to the career service at the top 3 school, will the chances at getting a good job ( US or any location ) be significantly increased ? Or is it that recruiters will discount the exchange and look at the parent institution ( which might be lesser known ) ?

I'm pretty sure recruiters will discount the exchange and look at the parent institution.

As far as access to career services -- To be honest, not really sure. I've always heard that most students who do an exchange with the intent of networking into a job in that country have to pound the pavement, network, and do a lot of the legwork themselves. You'd likely have to do the same.

What I can tell you is simple: If you want to work in the US, go to a US school. If you want to work in Europe, go to a European school. It is very difficult to land up back in the US from a European school.

Nov 23, 2013

Thanks for your view. 1 question - if someone from a good european school goes for an exchange to a better known european school, will it be discounted as much as the US case ? Or is it likely that there will be some benefit for recruiting ?

Thanks

Nov 23, 2013
greatgolfer:

Thanks for your view. 1 question - if someone from a good european school goes for an exchange to a better known european school, will it be discounted as much as the US case ? Or is it likely that there will be some benefit for recruiting ?

Thanks

You will get your degree from your main school and exchange programs will not be a part of your "brand". Exchange programs are usually one line item on a resume.

I'm not really certain what you're trying to accomplish. If you are trying to go to a lower ranked school and have access to better recruiting, an exchange program is probably not the best way to go about this. You want to either get into a great program initially, or you have to pound the pavement hard at your second tier program and network very well.

The responsibility will be on you. If you can take advantage of that exchange semester and really network with the students, local employers, and find yourself a position, then great. I would not expect the school brand or career center of an exchange school to do a thing for you. It's all on you (and your main degree-granting institution to a degree)

Nov 23, 2013

Any more views ?

Nov 23, 2013

Anyone been on an MBA Exchange Program here ? Appreciate any replies

Nov 23, 2013

I have a friend who's about to go on exchange to Kellogg from AGSM in Sydney. Agree with some of the points above that they are one-liners in CV's, but the amount of networking, plus all the cross-culture, international experience points you can spew out during interviews is priceless.

Also, in this case they are very good brands from different parts of the world, so if you want to diversify your attractiveness (in the case of b-school branding) it may also be a good idea.

Sorry a bit off topic but I thought you'd be able to draw parallels.

Nov 23, 2013

Any idea if in fact exchange stuents are given full access to the recruiting ? In letter they are but is it in spirit as well ?

pno agree with your point, but will alumni at the exchange school discount an exchange student somewhat, thus limiting networking opportunities ? Just trying to get an idea if getting that 1 line on my CV will be helpful ( By the way even if its just 1 line - the brand is still there - that can't hurt)

Thanks

Nov 23, 2013
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Nov 23, 2013