MHA -> Healthcare IB?
Can a master's in healthcare administration place someone into healthcare IB?
I wonder if someone in an MHA program can do a summer internship in a healthcare IBD, then land a position after graduating.
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No. I am in hc IBD and we have had many an MHA/ MPH, shit school PHD, etc. pathetically attempt to break in. Truth is, MHA and mph are pretty useless, and an MHA may be even more useless than an MPH. Public health degrees are the humanities of the sciences. Why can't you just go and get an MBA? all of them are useless, but at least an MBA holds a modicum of clout
Well that idea is out the window.
I can't get an MBA right now because I'm just finishing undergrad. I was preparing myself for a PhD program, but decided I want to do finance instead. As a result, I have no finance experience besides some courses work.
So now I'm trying to find some way to break into IBD. I keep getting mixed responses. One person tells me to cold call boutiques and just keep trying until I get an offer. Others tell me getting an MSF has helped them break into IB, some even breaking into BB.
Given my interest in healthcare, I just wondered if an MHA would provide leverage for someone to enter the healthcare IBD industry. Apparently not.
Also, I have some undergraduate debt that I need to pay off. So I either have to find a job or go into a master's program where I can delay the payments. I honestly prefer just working to pay off the debt, but the vibe I've been getting is that if I do just any job (non-finance related/non-IB related), then I'm wasting precious time that I could be devoting to enhancing my chances to break into IB.
All of these non-business masters and PhDs of any kind will not help you. Not only are these degrees not relevant to banking, but they make it very apparent what happened (obviously this is not always the case): you had your heart set on one career path, but then changed your mind after you found out that IB pays better.
Your best bet is to start cold emailing boutiques. Without prior experience, your chance of landing a FT IB position are pretty much zero. An MSF will not fix that, but could certainly help if you start the MSF after an internship or two. That being said, given your situation with having to pay off your debt, I would strongly suggest following your healthcare career path, getting several years of quality work experience, and then applying to top 15 MBA programs.
Somebody's in a good mood....
Are you mentally slow?
Mentally slow?
You asked me why I don't just get an MBA, so I explained why I can't get one yet.
Then I offered insight as to why I inquiried the worth of an MHA degree. Given your response, I acknowledged that the idea is out the window, and now I am scurrying to find another viable path.
I included the other pieces of advice people have given me, hoping you, or someone else, would comment on which one seems more appropriate for a soon to be graduate.
My position is a result of deciding to enter the finance game too late into my "undergraduate career", not that I'm mentally incapable.
Oh please. Your entire post history consists of you frantically looking for ways to game the system to break into any role in finance. You speak of this newfound interest that suddenly dawned upon you approximately two weeks before school's to end, but that just reeks of "fuck I forgot to find a job. Hm, how about I try to get a gig in finance lol."
You have student loans with no means to repay them, so you're considering taking on an exponential amount more for a degree that obviously is not of much interest to you. You do not want to out in the time to get an MBA and assume a back door degree can facilitate your breaking in. Well, finance isn't a flimsy brick wall and you're not the Kool Aid man, bruh, and you will have to present at least some level of effort/ interest to differentiate yourself from all of the others with empty claims of 'passion for the markets'.
Science kids fucking suck because they assume that they're so much better than other candidates because they took a couple of semesters of organic chemistry. Well, look at my goddamn username. You will never use that knowledge and your classmate who majored in philosophy may even be smarter than you, young snowflake.
Your 'precious time' would be better spent actually trying to prove yourself instead of cold-calling or applying for graduate debt or asking people online to tell you stuff that you could easily Google yourself. There are summer interns on the verge of catching scurvy or some shit because they want this shit so bad and there are 12-year-olds on this site already building linked models and picking out their future Hermes ties. Why should someone give you a chance because you chose to get some weird degree of which most bankers have likely never heard. You had 2-3 summers and 6 or so semesters in which you could've gained experience (and your desperate peers certainly did) so now you just have to make up for it after the fact. Learn to model, put down some programming, do something, Jesus.
You're right to a certain extent. I'm not denying that I didn't prepare myself for a career in finance. I'm not claiming to have a love for the market. I'm pretty direct about my intentions: I want to make money, and I feel like finance is the most effective way to do so.
I didn't major in a hard science. I'm getting a degree in Economics and Political Science. I've done two independent research projects where I conducted many types of regressions and endogenous models. Trust me "snowflake," I can model quite well.
I did internships, but because I was set on pursing an academic career, they were research assistant internships. I know this may seem odd to you, but some people genuinely don't know what career path to take until late into school. As I've matured, I realized that I have a tendency to do better than my peers in almost anything I do, so why should i settle for a low/mediocre paying career?
I have to make up for my lack of preparation, not my lack of competence. I think anyone with any sense can differentiate between my situation and the one you are claiming I'm in. Its not like I was lazy and unproductive. I occupied almost all of my free time with research and tutoring, again, because I was set on an academic career. So, of course, I need to find a way to break in.
Instead of berating people to make yourself feel better about being a 3rd year analyst, I'd spend more time trying to figure out how to work on yourself.
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