Miami Heat (What do you Think)

curious as to people's reactions about tonight's game

personally i feel that this adds quite a bit to Lebron's reputation amongst the people who doubt him

many say he's not clutch, can't win in the big games, and is soft or backs away from the moment, I think his performance today was huge and helped him to finally beat the Celts
in Boston (game was also huge for Bosh), and makes it more difficult to argue that he can't win in big games and against great defenses....

interesting to see as to how people rate him not only amongst players in the league currently (sorry Drose) as I feel LBJ is the best right now in the game

as well as predictions as to how many titles the Heat are capable of winning???

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May 10, 2011 - 12:01am

It's interesting, especially given how poorly they fared against the celts during the year. I guess the length of the season really did take its toll on the Celtics. One caveat though is that the C's are banged up--how would the heat have fared against a full strength boston team? hard to tell.

makes it really hard to figure out how they will do in the next round (given they win 1 of 3). Especially a team like the mavs--man do they look good right now...

but in terms of LBJ's legacy, its really hard to say, unless of course he finishes off the season with a title. he's showed flashes of being clutch (GW 3 at the buzzer against the magic a year or two ago), but then never seems to maintain it all the way for an entire title run. i think right now it can't have a major effect on his legacy, at least until he shows he can maintain the clutch gene for an ENTIRE playoff run.

May 10, 2011 - 12:06am

One game doesnt mean shit unless its to win a title. His problem is he never really finishes. He might finish one or two games strong but he is so fickle that is some one upsets him he will completely give up and just go and cry in a dark room.

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May 10, 2011 - 12:26am

agree,
but going down the stretch in today's game and as a lebron fan through his career
it seemed like one of those "here we go again" moments, where the game would get out of hand
when the c's stifling D seemed to dominate and where he seemed to sort of fade out of the game
it was nice to see a crucial game like this one go the other way for once

personally i think the lebron isn't clutch argument is a bit unfair, as he was huge in that run where they
played the spurs in the title game( single-handedly carrying the cavs over the pistons) and feel that based off what we've seen with the cavs this year, that they really were a one man team (going from best record in the league to the worst)

even jordan had pippen, kobe had shaq, gasol, wade had shaq, spurs were loaded, and feel that in todays game its unfair to except a player to win a ship by himself

this season, along with the next few should give more color regarding his legacy

fitting video

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May 10, 2011 - 12:19am

End of an era for the celtics and the kg-tim duncan-kobe bryant-paul pierce etc. era; here comes the james-wade-derrick rose-durant era with a fury....2, maybe 1 year ago Paul Pierce would have drained that shot in LBJ's face at the end of the 4th quarter even on a broken play coming off the inbound.

Even though I am a Celtics fan, I will try to be objective: a player as great as Lebron James is will not be titleless forever, and I think the Heat will win the championship this year (as much as I don't want to see them win). The guy gets a lot of shit; even if he wins 1 ring, people will always compare him to the guys who won more. People sometimes forget that Jordan took a bit to win his first title too before he became a killer.The one thing I flat-out dislike about him is the way he went around announcing the Decision. Other than that, he has it all: he has the size of a 4 and moves like a guard; facilitates, can take over a game when necessary, can be lethal from the perimeter when hot, has post-up moves, can slash, can kick, and plays phenomenal defense. He's a taller version of Jordan with a slightly less-developed perimeter game, and none of the emotional intangibles yet.

I think the Heat are capable of winning probably 2 titles over the next 4 years or so, as three-peating in this era is really difficult.

I just hope this current era of superstars doesn't go to waste through a fucking strike and that the NBA gets a good commissioner/becomes more creatively managed. There is something that is incredibly unique about the sport that I can't get enough of as a fan.

May 10, 2011 - 12:36am

I just hope this current era of superstars doesn't go to waste through a fucking strike and that the NBA gets a good commissioner/becomes more creatively managed. There is something that is incredibly unique about the sport that I can't get enough of as a fan.[/quote]

very true, it seems as i get older, i grow to like the nba more, and care about other sports less (to anyone here that is a bit interested in the nba (I highly recommend attending a playoff game live (preferrably with seats within 10 rows of the floor) it is an absolutely awesome experience and for me the most entertaining and worth the coin
(coming from someone that has been to numerous nfl, mlb, ncaa games) it is great

note: celts and knicks tickets are crazy pricey (made the trip to philly for round 1) 120 bucks a ticket for 3 rows off the baseline

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May 10, 2011 - 2:37pm
syntheticshit:

Even though I am a Celtics fan, I will try to be objective: a player as great as Lebron James is will not be titleless forever, and I think the Heat will win the championship this year (as much as I don't want to see them win). The guy gets a lot of shit; even if he wins 1 ring, people will always compare him to the guys who won more. People sometimes forget that Jordan took a bit to win his first title too before he became a killer.The one thing I flat-out dislike about him is the way he went around announcing the Decision. Other than that, he has it all: he has the size of a 4 and moves like a guard; facilitates, can take over a game when necessary, can be lethal from the perimeter when hot, has post-up moves, can slash, can kick, and plays phenomenal defense. He's a taller version of Jordan with a slightly less-developed perimeter game, and none of the emotional intangibles yet.

Also a Celtics fan, and also - as much as I hate to say it - Heat will likely take it. Between their athleticism, LBJ and Wade, and Celt's old age and injuries, it'd be pretty difficult for the C's to overcome the 3-1 deficit no matter how much heart they play with.

I used to like LeBron - he has so much potential, the skills and body - a true contender as this era's 'Jordan'. But unlike Jordan (who, didn't win his first ring till he was 28), LBJ took the easy route and said 'I need a super stacked team to win, I can't do it alone' at such an early age. How would we feel about MJ if back in the day he decided to pitch himself to the Pistons and team up with Isiah because he had a few setbacks?

I'm sure some ppl will criticize (Celtics and Lakers have in last few yrs built up superstar teams as well). Though the difference is a lot of the guys in these teams are pretty far along in their careers. Paul Pierce has been with Celts for his entire career, and hasn't had a 'great' team till 07/08.

May 10, 2011 - 2:41pm
Kanon:

Also a Celtics fan, and also - as much as I hate to say it - Heat will likely take it. Between their athleticism, LBJ and Wade, and Celt's old age and injuries, it'd be pretty difficult for the C's to overcome the 3-1 deficit no matter how much heart they play with.

I used to like LeBron - he has so much potential, the skills and body - a true contender as this era's 'Jordan'. But unlike Jordan (who, didn't win his first ring till he was 28), LBJ took the easy route and said 'I need a super stacked team to win, I can't do it alone' at such an early age. How would we feel about MJ if back in the day he decided to pitch himself to the Pistons and team up with Isiah because he had a few setbacks?

I'm sure some ppl will criticize (Celtics and Lakers have in last few yrs built up superstar teams as well). Though the difference is a lot of the guys in these teams are pretty far along in their careers. Paul Pierce has been with Celts for his entire career, and hasn't had a 'great' team till 07/08.

LA and Boston stacked well before Miami ever did. And "three kings" is a bit unnecessary in Miami. Bosh is soft and not on that level to be "king". Could you imagine if LeBron teamed up with D-Rose in Chicago? Wish that would have happened, but I still like the guy regardless of where he's at.

And although I don't like Paul Pierce, I admire his staying ability.

May 10, 2011 - 12:25am

Im not saying he is a bad player I am saying that I have yet to see anything from him that says he cares about a team game. If you would replace james with howard on the heat, they would have easily won another 8 to 10 games. The NBA sheltered him from the real world for far to long and he has a world view that he is the king and that no one else compares to him in any way. While he is one of the best players playing today he can easily get beat by a team. Basketball is a team sport.

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May 10, 2011 - 12:43am

I remember game 1 of this season in boston when national media started laughing at the heat's inability to put things together. Now, here we are several months later and the worst thing for the rest of the Eastern Conference that could happen happened: the Heat figured it out. They have major flaws, without question, but LBJ and Wade playing together is remarkably tough to beat 4 out of 7 times. If they win it this year, when they really probably shouldn't based on the rest of their pieces, then we could be on the doorstep of a pretty remarkable run.

May 10, 2011 - 12:52am

I hope the hard cap is put in place at like 85 million, that way teams like the lakers will actually have to make good decisions and not just try and buy championships. Granted the Mavs are over the current cap but not to the tune of 40 plus million dollars.

The era of the team of superstars in my view has ruined the NBA, you have players to basicly run the show and the leauge does nothing but give them what they want and promote them to insane levels.

The obvious example of this is the 06 finals. The Mavs got fucked by the NBA, who was basicly promoting Wade to space like levels. Now I know the mavs imploded at the end of that series but there is no way one player can legitly go to the line more than the entire other team over the course of a series. That made me really sour to the NBA in general, not to mention that it is for the most part a leauge of classless thugs.

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May 10, 2011 - 1:40pm

I said they were going all the way from the outset. Just sayin'

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May 10, 2011 - 3:21pm

I am so fucking sick of the "Lebron had to go to Miami, blah, blah, blah..."

I remember when these guys were losing at the beginning of the season, everyone assumed that it was a failed experiment. Now that they're steamrolling the Celtics in the playoffs, some people want to discredit the team because of its superstars. Winning in the NBA on any team is impressive and the fact that primarily 2 guys are able to get their team W's is impressive.

Lebron made his decision and people should just deal with it. The HEAT are playing good basketball and if they win it all, it will be because of Lebron. The fact that you cannot double team him or Wade is a match up nightmare for any team and that is why they continue to win. They make you play zone or man to man which means you either trying to re-route cutters to the bucket on zone defense, or getting lit the fuck up in man to man by Wade or Lebron. To me that is a testament to how much of a difference maker Lebron is. Period.

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May 27, 2011 - 3:18pm

Just thought I'd chime in for all you Lebron haters. He shitted on the Bulls last night. He also sent me a text message that says, "Tell the haters, JO&C in their own mouths."

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