Mobile version of the site is live and soon there will be a bookmark icon you can easily install on your iphone & android devices for easy access to the site.
Mobile version of the site is live and soon there will be a bookmark icon you can easily install on your iphone & android devices for easy access to the site.
This is actually native in WebOS (HP Touchpad operating system). It's really nice. One touch takes you to your "Track" tab.
What additional things would people want on a WSO app that isn't already presented in the mobile version...? I know my fair share of iOS developers that would (believe it or not) probably be willing to code things up as a side project. But if there's no time-cost benefit to a mobile app, then why devote the time to write the code.
yes track for sure, and an app would just be convenient to all the users. then you wouldnt have to pull up your browser and all that garbage, straight to the app would be nice
Its not that its any different to the mobile site it (an app) would just let the users interact more than they would if you only had the mobile site and no app
Hey guys, can you clarify what you mean by track? I thought I'd enabled it on the mobile, but clearly what I thought was track and what you guys are looking for is different.
Is there such thing as a WSO iPhone app? Is one being planned at the moment?
I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing.
See my Blog & AMA
Hm, interesting I never tried that. Patrick, time for an app? :P
I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing.
See my Blog & AMA
Maybe nothing really different but having the same functionality and maybe even some added stuff would be pretty cool. In essence, you guys wouldn't have to create something entirely new. If you want/need a referral to a good coder who can do the development for you at a low cost let me know, Patrick.
I'm talking about liquid. Rich enough to have your own jet. Rich enough not to waste time. Fifty, a hundred million dollars, buddy. A player. Or nothing.
See my Blog & AMA
Add Wall Street Oasis to Flipboard on iOS or Android. Looks beautiful and gives you everything a native app would in this case.
"Until and unless you discover that money is the root of all good, you ask for your own destruction. When money ceases to become the means by which men deal with one another, then men become the tools of other men. Blood, whips and guns or dollars."
I appreciate your Effort which used for provide some interesting data. The feedback process is definitely not as smooth as it could be / should be. For example, even the popups that show up now in some apps, that ask for a review only link the user to the app’s app store page. It is then up to them to find the ratings section and click on that to get to the “leave a review” page.
I recently visit one Iphone App Reviews website, which is also helpful for us.
I was thinking exactly the same thing, a WSO app would be awesome for iOS(what I use). So I searched it and realized that the mobile site is actually a great resource and very intuitive. It leaves little to be desired.
Although I think a mobile app would solidify WSO in the mass consumer market, the mobile site is great.
New WSO Mobile App / Theme (Originally Posted: 05/16/2013)
We have just pushed live a new mobile theme taking into account the complaints from the previous iteration.
You will now find bigger buttons and less layout issues related to videos and images...so hoepfully you wont be forced to pinch and zoom in to click and navigate.
Question related: Whats with the top nav bar now? Before we had the top nav bar with the icons but now below that we also have "Inbox (x)" "My Profile" "Logout" with the other "Recent" "FAQs" etc.
Basically the features are in two places on the screen now.
Frank Sinatra - "Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy."
See the top? Two logout options, two profile options, two inbox options.
wow, your screen is all sorts of messed up....can you tell me what browser you are in?
your start button is split in 2, the 468x60 ad is not properly aligned and you are seeing 2 sets of menus...anyone else seeing this? please provide operating system/browser you are on.
yeahright:
that was IE8
this is IE7:
gonna clear cache and cookies and see if its picking up old stuff, see if it cleares anything up and will report back
yeah, think it's your cache...please clear browser cache...
No change, it is honestly probably my bank and how they have settings set up... it may be blocking a portion of the code that determines the layout..
looks fine on Mac-->Safari at home and mobile site looks good
hmmm, i have ie9 on my computer and only the Start Discussion button is messed up like yours...the menus are correct.
We will push a fix for the Start Discussion button asap so it also works in IE. site shoudl look good in FF, chrome and safari though...
yeahright:
that was IE8
this is IE7:
gonna clear cache and cookies and see if its picking up old stuff, see if it cleares anything up and will report back
yeah, think it's your cache...please clear browser cache...
No change, it is honestly probably my bank and how they have settings set up... it may be blocking a portion of the code that determines the layout..
looks fine on Mac-->Safari at home and mobile site looks good
hmmm, i have ie9 on my computer and only the Start Discussion button is messed up like yours...the menus are correct.
We will push a fix for the Start Discussion button asap so it also works in IE. site shoudl look good in FF, chrome and safari though...
Sounds good about the button. Not sure what is going on with the "Toolbar" was that phased out for the options added in below? Or are the options below only supposed to show for mobile?
Frank Sinatra - "Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy."
We need more drunk Flake on the forums, so this is a good thing.
"For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry God. Bloody Mary full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now and at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon. Amen."
I've been a member of WSO for the past couple months and usually I usually comment, post, etc on my Mac (since it's currently the best option).However, I am not always on my Mac and have been encountered situations where I have to go on WSO while using my phone. But I find it somewhat harder to use in Safari and I feel that a WSO app would make things much easier. Does anyone else feel the same way? Would you want a WSO app? For convenience purposes I think it would be a great idea.
thanks for the feedback and sorry about my delay in responding. I think we can improve the mobile site and I'd love for you to give me feedback on that. How can we make it easier to use on Safari?
going down the app route is a lot of technical debt when my tech team is already stretched thin...
I agree that an app would be great. Kind of like Quora's. I like how I can get emails on my iPhone and then I can click on the link to take me to the app because it is much more streamlined. I don't think it is bad to view the forums on Safari, but I don't comment when I am on my phone then (writing from a computer right now). Maybe if we had an online petition to see how much interest from the community there is, we could see who would be willing to pay 1 or 2 dollars, and then that could help cover development costs if you had a fundraising commitment on the website. Just a thought...
I think you have to remember too that you can't really look at it from the perspective of 'make it like the facebook app'. You can't really compare Facebook to WSO in terms of usage, ROI etc. WSO is fantastic and has a fairly large group of users that post frequently but the cost of making an app similar to facebook's would be immense and I don't know if WSO has the community size to support that kind of expenditure. While I would love a WSO app, I'm just trying to be practical. Obviously Illini can speak to the other issues and obstacles involved but just something to think about...
If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
What kinds of features are you guys looking for? Or just a mobile version of the website?
I think the iphone works so well because most messages that go through it are 100 characters in length, not 1000. Typing three paragraphs is a different use case than sending a one-sentence response via text. You can to keep reviewing different stuff in context and really need a larger area to work with visually. So the logistics of reading a post from WSO and responding to it are probably more complicated than a lot of folks first imagine.
There are ways to do this, but the developer certainly has his or her work cut out for him just for the read/post stuff. This is a place where you need an experienced GUI developer to handle this. Not some college kid or codemonkey on scriptlance.
It's a cost-benefit Patrick will need to evaluate. If Patrick needs a starting point on prices, he's got dozens of professional developers, some of whom invariably work with GUIs and network messaging, who are members of this site.
I have a friend who works for a company that develops mobile apps for clients, and I was told that they charge anywhere from $50k to 200k. I'm no business man, but that doesn't sound crazy expensive.
Pretty sure it's objective C, which is a lot easier to deal with than C. They also have a pretty user friendly platform for app development. I'm not an expert though so I'll defer to your experience.
While I think the app would be cool, after thinking more about it, meh. I mean, you've got a lot of people visiting the site, but is it really going to make THAT big of a difference? I probably wouldn't ever use it, but thats cause the Incredible eats batteries like you wouldnt imagine.
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how do all you people in finance have iphones? or do you use 2 phones, a work and personal one?
I know what you mean but except editing docs (without the use of 3rd party apps), iPhone has all the features of a bb device. Hence, many bankers use iPhone as well.
I don't know if you have thought about this but maybe to further the popularity of the site you can create a mobile version of WSO that is friendly towards Blackberries/Iphones or any other devices. I think it would be cool if I can peruse the site on my phone. Some suggestions are getting the Apple SDK kit or Google’s new android SDK which is available to anyone.
yeah, in talks with a few potential developers. there are some tough challenges including upkeep, finding a good developer, making sure it's platform agnostic (since many finance people still use blackberry and android devices).
ideallly we get an html5 app developed, i just an not sure how whole process works -- and besides some insane quotes, haven't met a team or developer that can deliver something that meets these qualifications or stepped up. But we are active in looking so if anyone knows someone, please let us know
I think PhoneGap looks interesting, but how to maintain / host it worries me. I know we are going to go mobile, it's just a question on timing and making sure we do it right.
IPhone apps are written in C I believe and are genuinely hard-core programming. This is not VBA, not even the lighter Java that I work with.
An easier solution might be to do an Iphone-friendly implementation. Patrick can set up a script to grab browser info and if it's IPhone's safari, redirect to a lighter weight version of the site.
IPhone apps are written in C I believe and are genuinely hard-core programming. This is not VBA, not even the lighter Java that I work with.
An easier solution might be to do an Iphone-friendly implementation. Patrick can set up a script to grab browser info and if it's IPhone's safari, redirect to a lighter weight version of the site.
problem with this approach is the heavy caching for performance. We had a mobile version of the site (lighter weight) about 2 years ago, but what happens is that even though that lighter weight theme is only supposed to load when mobile devices hit the site...in reality, those mobile pages get cached and we were getting a lot of people in chrome saying they were getting the mobile version even though they were on their laptops/desktops.
that's why I'm thinking a mobile app might be a better, although admittedly harder way to go...
i've done both Android and iPhone development (still do) and I can tell you that keeping it agnostic is just about impossible. The approaches and languages and just so different that you can really only take it so far. With my apps, I can create a common web service and thats where the similarities end. So it's a SOA-based architecture, but you still need to main two codebases (or three if you do BB) in order to keep yourself working with both iPhone and Android. I happen to be very good to do what I do, but its somewhat challenging to find a single shop that can handle both Java and Objective C AND be versed on the process to actually deploy your app for each one of the platforms. Knowing how to navigate the Apple iTunes for developers alone is a skill in itself!
I think trying to figure out something that is tailored to anything other than iPhone or Android is foolish, just IMO -- yes a lot of people in finance still use BB, but I don't think I know anyone who doesn't have their own personal iphone or android device. Trying to make something for BB is just a waste of time/money from my perspective
Agree that you can limit the scope to Android and iPhone. I don't know anyone that doesn't own one or the other in lieu of or in addition to their bberry.
If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
Agree that you can limit the scope to Android and iPhone. I don't know anyone that doesn't own one or the other in lieu of or in addition to their bberry.
...but yeah, ok, I hear you - I'd be fine just going android and iphone...at least it's a start.
GentlemanJack: "challenging to find a single shop that can handle both Java and Objective C AND be versed on the process to actually deploy your app for each one of the platforms. Knowing how to navigate the Apple iTunes for developers alone is a skill in itself!"
...that is becoming more and more obvious to me each month that passes. The issue is as a forum heavy website, we need something that allows user to easily comment from their mobile device, so it can't be just a pretty set of RSS feeds.
GJ, do you think you'd be able to pull it off? Do you have the tme?
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Pretty sure this has been discussed like 400 times.
I believe there's a mobile version of the site but there won't be an app in the short term if I remember what Patrick said about it most recently.
Mobile version of the site is live and soon there will be a bookmark icon you can easily install on your iphone & android devices for easy access to the site.
This is actually native in WebOS (HP Touchpad operating system). It's really nice. One touch takes you to your "Track" tab.
One of the biggest things missing from the mobile site is the "track" tab. Would be great if someone can put that in.
Is there an option to view the normal site? The mobile version is very good, but there are a few things I can't do on the mobile app with my phone.
What additional things would people want on a WSO app that isn't already presented in the mobile version...? I know my fair share of iOS developers that would (believe it or not) probably be willing to code things up as a side project. But if there's no time-cost benefit to a mobile app, then why devote the time to write the code.
+1 to adding "track" on the mobile site as well.
yes track for sure, and an app would just be convenient to all the users. then you wouldnt have to pull up your browser and all that garbage, straight to the app would be nice
Its not that its any different to the mobile site it (an app) would just let the users interact more than they would if you only had the mobile site and no app
Hey guys, can you clarify what you mean by track? I thought I'd enabled it on the mobile, but clearly what I thought was track and what you guys are looking for is different.
WSO iPhone/Android App (Originally Posted: 11/19/2012)
Is there such thing as a WSO iPhone app? Is one being planned at the moment?
On the iPhone, you can make an icon on your homescreen, but it really only opens up your browser.
same on android. add a bookmark widget.
an app would be cool
Hm, interesting I never tried that. Patrick, time for an app? :P
Maybe nothing really different but having the same functionality and maybe even some added stuff would be pretty cool. In essence, you guys wouldn't have to create something entirely new. If you want/need a referral to a good coder who can do the development for you at a low cost let me know, Patrick.
Add Wall Street Oasis to Flipboard on iOS or Android. Looks beautiful and gives you everything a native app would in this case.
I would also be interested if there was a WSO app.
I appreciate your Effort which used for provide some interesting data. The feedback process is definitely not as smooth as it could be / should be. For example, even the popups that show up now in some apps, that ask for a review only link the user to the app’s app store page. It is then up to them to find the ratings section and click on that to get to the “leave a review” page. I recently visit one Iphone App Reviews website, which is also helpful for us.
Has there been new developments on the possibility of an app? I would totally be willing to pay a few bucks for an ad free version of a WSO app!
I was thinking exactly the same thing, a WSO app would be awesome for iOS(what I use). So I searched it and realized that the mobile site is actually a great resource and very intuitive. It leaves little to be desired.
Although I think a mobile app would solidify WSO in the mass consumer market, the mobile site is great.
New WSO Mobile App / Theme (Originally Posted: 05/16/2013)
We have just pushed live a new mobile theme taking into account the complaints from the previous iteration.
You will now find bigger buttons and less layout issues related to videos and images...so hoepfully you wont be forced to pinch and zoom in to click and navigate.
Please let me know what you think.
Thanks, Patrick
Question related: Whats with the top nav bar now? Before we had the top nav bar with the icons but now below that we also have "Inbox (x)" "My Profile" "Logout" with the other "Recent" "FAQs" etc.
Basically the features are in two places on the screen now.
Looks fine to me...but the again, I didn't have any issues with it before..
See the top? Two logout options, two profile options, two inbox options.
wow, your screen is all sorts of messed up....can you tell me what browser you are in?
your start button is split in 2, the 468x60 ad is not properly aligned and you are seeing 2 sets of menus...anyone else seeing this? please provide operating system/browser you are on.
Thanks!
that was IE8
this is IE7:
gonna clear cache and cookies and see if its picking up old stuff, see if it cleares anything up and will report back
yeah, think it's your cache...please clear browser cache...
No change, it is honestly probably my bank and how they have settings set up... it may be blocking a portion of the code that determines the layout..
looks fine on Mac-->Safari at home and mobile site looks good
hmmm, i have ie9 on my computer and only the Start Discussion button is messed up like yours...the menus are correct.
We will push a fix for the Start Discussion button asap so it also works in IE. site shoudl look good in FF, chrome and safari though...
Sounds good about the button. Not sure what is going on with the "Toolbar" was that phased out for the options added in below? Or are the options below only supposed to show for mobile?
My fat sausage fingers thank you.
We need more drunk Flake on the forums, so this is a good thing.
WSO App? (Originally Posted: 06/18/2017)
I've been a member of WSO for the past couple months and usually I usually comment, post, etc on my Mac (since it's currently the best option).However, I am not always on my Mac and have been encountered situations where I have to go on WSO while using my phone. But I find it somewhat harder to use in Safari and I feel that a WSO app would make things much easier. Does anyone else feel the same way? Would you want a WSO app? For convenience purposes I think it would be a great idea.
thanks for the feedback and sorry about my delay in responding. I think we can improve the mobile site and I'd love for you to give me feedback on that. How can we make it easier to use on Safari?
going down the app route is a lot of technical debt when my tech team is already stretched thin...
Thanks, Patrick
I agree that an app would be great. Kind of like Quora's. I like how I can get emails on my iPhone and then I can click on the link to take me to the app because it is much more streamlined. I don't think it is bad to view the forums on Safari, but I don't comment when I am on my phone then (writing from a computer right now). Maybe if we had an online petition to see how much interest from the community there is, we could see who would be willing to pay 1 or 2 dollars, and then that could help cover development costs if you had a fundraising commitment on the website. Just a thought...
There should be a WSO app!!! (Originally Posted: 01/02/2011)
So I check WSO on my iphone all the time, and I was thinking that an app would make the browsing so much easier. Thoughts?
Nice one. Also if wso website could be made iPhone native as well :)
a) this has been discussed before b) i know nothing about app development c) i completely agree
I think a format similar to the iphone facebook app would work well.
I agree with Dublin verbatim
I think you have to remember too that you can't really look at it from the perspective of 'make it like the facebook app'. You can't really compare Facebook to WSO in terms of usage, ROI etc. WSO is fantastic and has a fairly large group of users that post frequently but the cost of making an app similar to facebook's would be immense and I don't know if WSO has the community size to support that kind of expenditure. While I would love a WSO app, I'm just trying to be practical. Obviously Illini can speak to the other issues and obstacles involved but just something to think about...
What kinds of features are you guys looking for? Or just a mobile version of the website?
I think the iphone works so well because most messages that go through it are 100 characters in length, not 1000. Typing three paragraphs is a different use case than sending a one-sentence response via text. You can to keep reviewing different stuff in context and really need a larger area to work with visually. So the logistics of reading a post from WSO and responding to it are probably more complicated than a lot of folks first imagine.
There are ways to do this, but the developer certainly has his or her work cut out for him just for the read/post stuff. This is a place where you need an experienced GUI developer to handle this. Not some college kid or codemonkey on scriptlance.
It's a cost-benefit Patrick will need to evaluate. If Patrick needs a starting point on prices, he's got dozens of professional developers, some of whom invariably work with GUIs and network messaging, who are members of this site.
I have a friend who works for a company that develops mobile apps for clients, and I was told that they charge anywhere from $50k to 200k. I'm no business man, but that doesn't sound crazy expensive.
^^^ That sounds about right. I was thinking tens of thousands, bare minimum for anything with production-level quality.
The primary language for iphone development is C. It is a very cumbersome language to code for, although it runs very efficiently.
Now $50K-200K is a lot of money, but it might be easier to pay for it in the form of equity if it enhances the value of WSO by a certain percentage.
Pretty sure it's objective C, which is a lot easier to deal with than C. They also have a pretty user friendly platform for app development. I'm not an expert though so I'll defer to your experience.
I know for me, all I'd be looking for is a mobile-friendly version of the site, no added functionality per se.
While I think the app would be cool, after thinking more about it, meh. I mean, you've got a lot of people visiting the site, but is it really going to make THAT big of a difference? I probably wouldn't ever use it, but thats cause the Incredible eats batteries like you wouldnt imagine.
how do all you people in finance have iphones? or do you use 2 phones, a work and personal one?
I know what you mean but except editing docs (without the use of 3rd party apps), iPhone has all the features of a bb device. Hence, many bankers use iPhone as well.
I have two phones. Already had an iphone, and then my company bought me a blackberry, which sucks btw.
Got two phones as well. I have a phone then my company bought me an iPhone. Company lets me pick any phone / service provider I want.
I had an iphone, switched to an android phone. I like the android much better. But i do think an app would be a great idea
Mobile WSO App (Originally Posted: 08/20/2008)
I don't know if you have thought about this but maybe to further the popularity of the site you can create a mobile version of WSO that is friendly towards Blackberries/Iphones or any other devices. I think it would be cool if I can peruse the site on my phone. Some suggestions are getting the Apple SDK kit or Google’s new android SDK which is available to anyone.
I second this.
Patrick, WSO app? (Originally Posted: 03/01/2012)
Patrick and WSO crew, Have you guys considered an app? I know that I would love it as I find the site is hard to use on a phone..
I feel like the site would convert very well into an app but have know idea what kind of capital it would take...
I have given up using WSO on my iphone.
Patrick said he was looking into it a few months ago, I think it was more of a cost issue and finding someone to actually do it.
Ya I have no idea what it takes to make a good app... WSO on iphone is fucking miserable
yeah, in talks with a few potential developers. there are some tough challenges including upkeep, finding a good developer, making sure it's platform agnostic (since many finance people still use blackberry and android devices).
ideallly we get an html5 app developed, i just an not sure how whole process works -- and besides some insane quotes, haven't met a team or developer that can deliver something that meets these qualifications or stepped up. But we are active in looking so if anyone knows someone, please let us know
I think PhoneGap looks interesting, but how to maintain / host it worries me. I know we are going to go mobile, it's just a question on timing and making sure we do it right.
Thanks
Great idea. You program it.
IPhone apps are written in C I believe and are genuinely hard-core programming. This is not VBA, not even the lighter Java that I work with.
An easier solution might be to do an Iphone-friendly implementation. Patrick can set up a script to grab browser info and if it's IPhone's safari, redirect to a lighter weight version of the site.
problem with this approach is the heavy caching for performance. We had a mobile version of the site (lighter weight) about 2 years ago, but what happens is that even though that lighter weight theme is only supposed to load when mobile devices hit the site...in reality, those mobile pages get cached and we were getting a lot of people in chrome saying they were getting the mobile version even though they were on their laptops/desktops.
that's why I'm thinking a mobile app might be a better, although admittedly harder way to go...
i've done both Android and iPhone development (still do) and I can tell you that keeping it agnostic is just about impossible. The approaches and languages and just so different that you can really only take it so far. With my apps, I can create a common web service and thats where the similarities end. So it's a SOA-based architecture, but you still need to main two codebases (or three if you do BB) in order to keep yourself working with both iPhone and Android. I happen to be very good to do what I do, but its somewhat challenging to find a single shop that can handle both Java and Objective C AND be versed on the process to actually deploy your app for each one of the platforms. Knowing how to navigate the Apple iTunes for developers alone is a skill in itself!
I think trying to figure out something that is tailored to anything other than iPhone or Android is foolish, just IMO -- yes a lot of people in finance still use BB, but I don't think I know anyone who doesn't have their own personal iphone or android device. Trying to make something for BB is just a waste of time/money from my perspective
Agree that you can limit the scope to Android and iPhone. I don't know anyone that doesn't own one or the other in lieu of or in addition to their bberry.
ha, guess I'm bankeriffic or old school?
...but yeah, ok, I hear you - I'd be fine just going android and iphone...at least it's a start.
GentlemanJack: "challenging to find a single shop that can handle both Java and Objective C AND be versed on the process to actually deploy your app for each one of the platforms. Knowing how to navigate the Apple iTunes for developers alone is a skill in itself!"
...that is becoming more and more obvious to me each month that passes. The issue is as a forum heavy website, we need something that allows user to easily comment from their mobile device, so it can't be just a pretty set of RSS feeds.
GJ, do you think you'd be able to pull it off? Do you have the tme?
Thanks, Patrick
WSO Phone App (Originally Posted: 03/09/2012)
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I agree!!!!!
That would be legit.
.
This is such a great idea, I can't believe no one has thought of it before!
WSO App - Thought of developing an app for smart phones? (Originally Posted: 03/16/2012)
Anyone ever thought of developing a WSO app for smart phones?
you should make one
I'd download it.
I'd pay $1.50 for it
I'd use it as well.
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