Morgan Stanley Best IB Group

Hey Folks, I was lucky enough to land an offer at MS IB. I'd like to place into a top group... the only problem is I don't know what the top groups are. There's a thread from 2013 that has some rankings, but that's literally 8 years old as of now. Let's fix that with this new thread.

Questions for here:

  1. What are the top performing MS IB groups?
  2. What groups place the best into PE // have the best exit opps?
  3. What groups have the best MDs and leadership?

(all in reference to NY office)

Much appreciated!

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  • Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
May 15, 2021 - 2:07pm

M&A, menlo tech, media comms, sponsors place best... but "best" coming out of MS is relative

GPUG very strong but a little nuanced exit wise

May 15, 2021 - 9:06pm

Another commenter or two have sort of outlined this, but M&A and GPUG are exceptionally strong at MS. The guys whom I know in GPUG have said that they are a bit siloed regarding exit opps (compared to other coverage groups), while M&A leaves you with more options but less subject matter expertise with particular industry dynamics. Congrats on the offer!

  • Director in IB - Cov
May 16, 2021 - 4:02pm

Only thing I will say is that the idea that GPUG analysts are siloed in terms of exit options is fundamentally false. In the last 5 or 6 years, there have been maybe two analysts that actually went to infrastructure PE - tons of exits to New Mountain, TA Associates, Carlyle (non-infra), Lindsay Goldberg, etc... The group has a strong reputation with a broad network, and it is a complete misconception that it silos junior people on exit. 

May 16, 2021 - 4:29pm

This is true and speaking of LDN GPUG, L3Y exits include: traditional PE (H&F), REPE (BX), Infra PE (KKR) and more.

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May 16, 2021 - 8:07pm

Candidly speaking, there's a general acceptance from alum perspectives that the culture in a lot of groups is poor, you don't model, pay sucks, and it's hard to get into a great group via networking unless you're lucky. Honestly not even worth going for M&A just to waste time networking and a valuable ranking space.

Go hard for mid-tier groups with the best culture you can find (culture is pretty brutal for all analysts tbh). You'll be able to exit just fine

  • Prospect in IB - Gen
May 16, 2021 - 8:11pm

Interesting - also speaking candidly, if I'm from a target with a decent school alum presence throughout the groups would it be worth it ranking for M&A etc?

May 16, 2021 - 8:14pm

Depends if your alum sit in M&A. It should be a few convos before you realize whether or not you'll be able to break in. One of my friends (attends M&A "target" was told well in advance of placement he was good for the group)

  • Analyst 1 in IB - Cov
May 17, 2021 - 12:34am

No, referring to REGAL IB coverage group. MSREI acquisitions is completely separate. Great group though and can go essentially anywhere in RE afterwards. Don't work there, but prior exits have been TPG, RockPoint, Baupost, Northwood etc.

  • Intern in IB - Cov
Jul 11, 2021 - 1:14am

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