MSF Brandeis vs Babson vs Rochester vs northeastern vs Baruch

I just got accepted into all the above mentioned schools for MS Finance. I've recently graduated from college and hence have no ft work experience in the field. I really don't mind living in NYC or Boston as long as I have a job which can sponsor a visa.
Please help me decide the school I should go to. My final date to accept the offer at Some schools is April 15.

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Apr 2, 2021 - 7:13pm

I'm not sure what you're looking for. None of these are really target IB programs and you never mentioned your goal post MSF. Your undergrad & past internships are going to shape your post-MSF recruiting experience coming from these programs. 

Hate to say it, but if you went to a non-target undergrad, then a non-target MSF with no previous WE/internships and you need a visa to stay in the US's going to be very tough. 

I'm happy to give more feedback if you provide more details. 

Best of luck. 

Apr 3, 2021 - 8:29am

I hate to the bearer of bad news, but I don't think any of these schools will help you reach your goals given your background.

There are plenty of posts on the programs in the US (MIT, Vandy, Columbia, Yale, USC, etc...) and Europe (Oxbridge, LSE, HEC, ESADE, IE, RSM, etc...) that do feed into IB. The schools on your list are just not great feeder programs and won't get you where you want to go, esp w/ your background. If you're looking for one of these MSFs to get you into IB, you will be disappointed. 

Apr 3, 2021 - 9:21am

What about corporate finance or Wealth Management?

I'm gonna be frank and say that my grades and just aren't good enough for the schools you mentioned. I think I can score enough on GMAT but then I'll have to target fall 2022 instead of this year and I don't want to waste a year. But if you think I should wait a year and apply to a school like vandy or UTA, I'd consider that too.

Also, if I study in a school at UK and get into IB, is there a way to transfer to NYC in the future as I've been to London and idk why I just don't like the city

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Apr 3, 2021 - 11:27am

You're an international student who needs to be sponsored. Wealth Management doesn't sponsor. Some corporate finance roles at the MBA level do sponsor, but for an int'l student from a solid non-target MSF program with zero experience, I just don't see it happening.

Yes - if you end up at a target EU/UK program and get into London IB, you can eventually transfer to NYC. But I wouldn't worry about that, I would focus on getting into a target EU/UK program as that's not easy. 

If you're serious about IB or another 'high finance' jobs with sponsorship, you need to ace the GMAT and get into a much better program. Even from a top program in the US/EU/UK, it's going to still be hard to get into IB given your profile. Just think about your competition - ppl from target undergrads with solid internship experience. You need something to stand out from an already high caliber list of students who don't need to be sponsored.    

Sorry to pour cold water on your aspirations, just trying to be realistic here. It's a very competitive industry. 

  • Associate 2 in IB - Cov
Apr 3, 2021 - 12:56am

I did my undergrad at Baruch. Highly don't recommend a masters of fin at baruch. Baruch is really good at marketing this program, but it means shit to employers. The curriculum is also really bad and you won't learn the necessary skills to break into a good finance role. Additionally, Baruch alumni don't look out for each other. I have a better chance at winning the lottery than I do at getting a response from an alumnus. Many of the Baruchians that did break in are arrogant and condescending, and I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire. 

Just look up some Baruch profs who will teach your finance classes on ratemyprofessor (see below). Most have horrible reviews in the finance dept. Most profs don't care about their classes at all, and will rely heavily on the textbook to teach.

Harvey Poniachek (beyond horrible)

Manoj Dalvi (horrible)

Joel Rentzler (really smart guy, but his coursework is extremely outdated, and even addition will seem complicated if taught by him)

I don't know if these programs are worth the money to be honest. I know Babson's undergrad program is pretty good, and alumni seem to be helpful, but I'm not 100% sure.

For your situation, I highly recommend going to a masters program with a strong name, think ivy/etc. Like a different poster said, getting a masters from a non-target won't help you at all.  

  • Associate 2 in IB - Cov
Apr 3, 2021 - 11:55am

The placement isn't great. It's mostly for back-office and middle office roles, which you have to fight tooth and nail to get. Just look up masters of finance baruch profiles on Linkedin and you'll see that most people don't have exciting roles.

Baruch is a great feeder into Big 4, but you're not doing accounting so they won't look at you. If you did a MACC at Baruch, got into Big 4, and did accounting for 2-3 years, I think you would definitely have a shot at lateraling into IB. Even then, this isn't easy to do.

My advice to you is you should go on a LinkedIn stalking binge and look up profiles of people that went into these schools to see how they're doing. Then you should reach out to some of these people from each school on LinkedIn and ask them for a 10 min phone call. I'm sure most would be glad to help you if you said you got accepted into their school and are looking to learn a few things before making the final decision. I still don't think you should attend any of these schools though. 

If you have any more Baruch questions, I'm happy to answer them.

  • Intern in IB-M&A
Apr 3, 2021 - 1:06am

I highly recommend you don't pursue a masters in finance if you are interested in finance given the fact that you are an international student. Getting into IB from undergrad as an international student is tough. Getting into IB from MBA as an international student is tougher. Getting into IB from a MS in finance as an international student is probably the toughest. It's not a normal entry point, you don't have the opp. To convert SA -> FT and you also don't have the brand name. Also, you don't have any relevant experience in IB and a masters in finance isn't anywhere near enough to get a job in IB. I know this because I went through recruiting as an undergraduate and got a SA offer but after a lot of hardship and wouldn't recommend spending money on a degree only to not get an offer.

Apr 3, 2021 - 2:48am

Will any of these universities help me break into corporate finance? Leaving out ib. I've heard Babson places good into some firms in Boston area, not sure though and I'm hella confused about what to do.

I think I can get into a better university if I target next fall but still I won't have any finance related work ex or internships. What should I study if not MSF? An mba would require years of work ex and I completed my undergrad only 6 months ago. Should I go to any one of these this fall or target a better school for fall 2022?

  • Intern in IB-M&A
Apr 3, 2021 - 12:05pm

I would echo what a person above said. From my knowledge, a lot of firms don't sponsor for roles and afaik that includes corporate finance. The only roles in finance that sponsor are the few top IBs (even that is reducing) and the top HFs (even more competitive than IB) and a very small amt. of PEs (you usually need IB exp. for this). Most other roles in finance don't sponsor.

I would honestly recommend getting experience in India and then applying to MBA programs down the line. That's the inly way to overcome your low grades and lack of experience. Also would probably remove the dp and change your account name to maintain anonymity.

May 1, 2021 - 4:14pm

Hate to say it but you're screwed if you need a sponsorship. Only a few of the top firms sponsor and the competition to get that sponsorship is insane. Also none of those schools would make you a competitive candidate. If I were you I'd join an Investment Bank in your home country and attempt to lateral into America. Should be easy with big global players.

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