*Networking Gods* I request your assistance
Background:
My university does not have OCR, and I leveraged a contact in my alumni network who agreed to arrange some Superdays for me in Toronto in 6 weeks (he is an MD, and head of fixed income at a BB, and well connected with other BBs). Moreover he said his bank would take care of my accommodations.
This is obviously a valuable opportunity he is giving me, and I want to stay in touch with him leading up to actually meeting in Toronto in 6 weeks, to ensure that everything goes smoothly.
I sent him an email following our conversation with my resume & cover letter for him to review before applying to their analyst program. Then I sent him a follow up email the next Monday morning to check in.
The problem is that I haven't gotten a response either time, and I really want to ensure this goes as well as possible. It has been 14 days since our call now, and I am starting to get concerned.
What should my next step be?
Should I pick up the phone and call him after the market closes?
Should I email him again?
Should I wait it out for his response?
Also, the guy is a complete ghost - and there's zero information about him online. All I have is his email & phone #.
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If anything call, but definitely stop emailing him. People tend to be much more sensitive to email because they get so much of it. However, I wouldn't do anything until about 2 weeks out at earliest. At that point, ask about your ticket, hotel, itinerary, etc. It's tempting to want to be certain about what is going on, but these things can swing really quickly if you sound too desperate.
Yeah I definitely want to avoid the desperate annoying route at all costs. Just wanted to hear opinions on contacting him again at this point in the least entitled/needy manner. Thanks for your advice, I might give him a call before market open/after close in another week if I don't hear back.
Good luck with everything. Just keep in mind how you would to have someone interacting with you if you were going to hire them. I am going through a similar thing as I have a job, but it is in the legal field, and I want to get into some financial analysis. So, when I contact people I am very excited, interested to get an answer from them in hopes of a resolution of my situation. However, the fact remains that I am doing fine so there is no need to hurry. My plan is to very rarely double call/email because a lot of the interview process, courting process is determining your fit within the company. If you can't hold you water while they are dotting i's and crossing t's, then how can they expect you to handle your job when things get hectic. Basically, you should only call or email if a "deadline" type date has passed. I.E. he was supposed to call you today at 1:00, but he did not. Perhaps, then around 3:00 (because you're giving him time to solve the issue that caused him not to call) you might give him a call.
Do not do this. There's only so much someone can do for you and he's already done a lot. Take these questions to HR, they are there exactly for this purpose. Regarding your contact, leave him alone. If he has not replied after 2 emails, you only risk annoying him and that's the last thing you want to do.
I actually agree with this. I didn't even think about HR handling your questions.
therealgordongekko @TommyGunn" What do you guys think about the protocol for when you're dealing with actual HR people? Say an hr person told me last week that they would pass my resume around and see what they could find.
I would give him a little more time to respond, if not, a week before e-mail him again. Exactly as other people said, you don't want to sound desperate and he has done a lot more for you than he needed to. It's tough to have patience in situations like this, but rationally speaking you just have to wait either closer to your date or a week before hand
Glad to hear someone actually using their head and not annoying the hell out of someone.
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step 1. close the loop: say "would it be alright if we touched base again in a week?"
step 2. always add 2-4 days to whatever date was in step 1. if you called the 20th and didn't hear back today, he could've had a bender of a weekend and is just now getting to emails, always give a bit of leeway.
step 3. never mention that you expected to hear by a certain date, always just say you're following up on______...
step 4: try calling at different times of day. if he's a bond guy, early mornings are out. try lunchtime, try later in the day, and if you have access to his group's research/commentary, try not to contact him around big publications. for example, if he writes a weekly piece on Monday mornings and a monthly piece every 2nd Friday, you know to not contact him until both of those are published.
and just to clarify, calling is preferable
godspeed
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