Never been in a fight. Not a man?
Non-target senior. 22-year-old Asian male. Investment sales intern.
The closest I came was in sixth grade when I got into an argument with this kid and threw my heavy-ass book bag at him, hit him right on the head. He was crying and I kept calling him a bitch until the gym teacher came over and made me apologize. Ever since then I've been a true neutral.
I just can't get myself angry enough over social media to really have beef with someone. Even if someone tries to start with me (happened once or twice) I resolve the issue with words. I'm not afraid to fight, I just can't bring myself to throw hands over petty things... how do I change this? I've been listening to bad/hard music to help think King Von, Poo Sheisty, and the like. I think it'll help me become a more violent person. Any suggestions here would be appreciated.
Everyone likes me, I have a lot of friends but I just don't seem manly because I've never been in a proper street fight. I also think it's why I can't lose my virginity. Thoughts?
This is the most WSO post of them all
Um... thanks I guess. Any relevant advice?
Best post of all time. Congratulations on your success.
I don't really see how the post is the "best of all time" 'm just looking for advice and thought I'd come here.
If this is satire, you made me laugh. If it isn't satire, you've got bigger problems than being at a non-target ;)
Satire!? Listen Prospect, I have better things to do than troll on WSO. I'm a discord admin, I can easily go on there and get real work done but I need some advice, and not one person who has replied has given me any! I have an urge to walk outside and punch the first person I see though I feel that'll be frowned upon.
Not sure how serious this post is. Anyway, I'll bite.
When I was a bit younger a few mates and I started working out and discuss options for other sports. Judo was phasing out, MMA was big on TV. Muay Thai was getting more prominent and we joined some local dojo in our hick town. After a few weeks we thought we are the reincarnation of Bruce Lee. Walked around town with pumped up chests and fairly anti social behavior.
One night a bunch of idiots threw a beer bottle towards us and out of nothing a street fight started. Nothing serious, as luckily nobody was carrying their gun and nobody had a knife on them. I accidentally left my dagger under the car seat. After a few minutes of yelling and shouting, a friend kicks this guy who immediately falls and won't wake up. We called EMS and this dude seriously almost died. He had some brain issues anyway and my friend was arrested at his parents' place and had to go to court for this. With a criminal conviction for a violent crime, he never worked a decent job in his life.
Lessons?
1) Nobody knows who carries what kind of weapon. Gun, knife, .. anything is possible. Don't pick a fight when you have nothing to gain from it. If someone calls you names, ignore it and keep walking. All of my friends and I learned this lesson.
2) If you do pick a fight, make sure the other side starts. Not you. Be ready to defend yourself, but don't be stupid enough to start the entire thing. De-escalation techniques are worth more than a gunfight. A fight avoided is a fight won. This is especially important if you have family and/or children in the vehicle or that rely on you.
3) Be ready to be arrested after the fight, regardless of jurisdiction. Police have the ability to find you quickly. And anything in your possession becomes evidence for the lawyers, meaning it's gone for a while.
4) You are responsible for every bullet that leaves the chamber, for every stab you make and for every kick or punch that comes from you. Another guy's idiocy is never worth going to jail for.
5) In today's world there are plenty of fools who have nothing to loose. Any petty argument can lead to a situation where you will get stabbed or shot. Nothing in this world is worth more than your life, don't forget that (with the rare exception of defending your own family or serving your country, of course. But that isn't what you asked).
I was dating this insanely hot girl and I'm....not exactly God's gift to women. I walk in with this insanely hot girl to this bar in D.C. and she's definitely the hottest girl there. I hear these guys yell over to us, "Dang, he must have a huge Wang." I smiled and felt like a billion bucks. I. Was. The. Man.
A few weeks later it dawned on me that he was insulting me--saying that I was too troll to be there with that girl. 6 months later she randomly brings up this incident where she said she thought I should have defended my honor and her honor. I was like, "Well, first of all, in the moment I thought they were complimenting me for being the man and you for being hot. Secondly, I have a real job. If arrests are made and this goes to the papers that pretty much means I lose my job. Finally, I don't have a right ACL, which means I would lose fights to 12-year-old girls because I can't pivot and, surprisingly, I can't throw a punch. You'd be surprised how important the plant foot is in throwing a punch."
We broke up 10 days later lol. She clearly was stewing over that incident for 6 months.
A person who expected you to start an argument over that is clearly a girl and not a woman. Immature at best or worse, dangerous. If every guy would start a fight for every word said, every city would be named Chicago. Just ignore the haters and live your life, get a girlfriend who is more mature and understands this.
source: I am a law abiding citizen and second amendment supporter who has *never* needed to pull my gun for anything.
self defense source https://open.lib.umn.edu/criminallaw/chapter/5-2-self-defense/
Yeah, I agree. That's basically how I felt about it. Enough time has passed where I can laugh at it now, but tbh, in the moment, I was kind of shocked to find out she was legit angry about it a half year later.
Doesn’t matter, still smashed
Thanks for reminding us of this. In a post COVID summer (edit: pls fix, hello Delta) and people locked up for summer 2020 last year, car jackings and car thefts have been through the roof this summer. There are three instances of car jackings where (thankfully) near fatal shootings happened by the person getting robbed.
Situation 1: Guy has an expensive Mercedes SUV, the kind that is push to start and don't need your keys to start it. No one is in the car. He leaves the car on, and with his car keys in his pocket runs into the gas station store to pay for the pump and buy some other stuff. A thief runs into the already on Mercedes and begins to run away with the car. The owner steps of of the store and precedes to shoot at the thief with his concealed carry. His aim is spot on, and with minimal damage to the car, hits the thief in the torso causing serious injury. The thief while in the hospital is hit with a petty crimes misdeameanor, and the owner of the car is now forever indebted to the thief's family in a civil lawsuit as well as facing multiple years in prison for the shooting.
Situation 2: While in his car, a thief pulls up to the driver's side window with a gun and begins to attempt a car jacking. The driver hits the thief with a little bit of "'Merica!" action and shoots him point blank. The thief is now in a hospital on life support and the owner of the car is the town hero and everyone is buying him drinks.
Situation 3: Same situation as 2, except the owner lets the thief steal his car as the gun was pointed at the driver. Once the thief gets in the car and starts to drive away, the owner while now out of danger and out of the thief's gun's crosshair's, shoots and injures the thief. Same legal implications that guy from situation 1 is facing as he was out of harm's way even though he had just been car jacked at gun point.
Super interesting times we are living in during a post COVID crime spree. In my area of the country, many racial stereotypes have been self fulfilling unfortunately, and the use of deadly force to protect self or property have been fueled by "white fear" into a racial battle. See the Kenoshia shootings last year as an example.
Why is Chicago always the go to "violent city" example people throw out? Generally it's an indication that a person watches way too much Fox News or Ben Shapiro podcasts but it's really not based in reality.
Chicago doesn't even break the top 25 most violent/dangerous cities.
https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/the-most-dangerous-cities-in-america/
I listen to almost every Ben Shapiro podcast and I don't recall him talking about Chicago at all except for the mayor's demented response to Covid or to discuss gun control arguments about guns from Indiana.
I honestly think that people who still adhere to an honor culture are mentally deficient.
Mate... u are one dense motherfker hahahaha
That ACL chat must have dried her kitty up worse than the sahara
Lmao what an absolute cuck I understand why she broke up why you. Seriously, telling your gf that you'd lose a fight against a 12yo girl?
I don't see how "he must have a huge wang" can be anything but a compliment.. to both of you. Unless you look like a bum (dirty or unfit clothes or maybe even screaming extra cheap), who cares what a guy looks like? I think any man would rather look well kempt and like he's packing an 11 incher than to be considered "good looking".
watch american psycho
He doesn’t get into any fights in this movie - he just kills people. Fight Club is a better movie pick.
Getting your nose bashed in will not make girls want to sleep with you more lmao
They will, they'll feel that sigma-energy radiating from me.
People who go into martial arts cus they think they’ll have an upper hand when they go out are such fucking losers. No amount of man to man grappling is going to help in a real life altercation lmao.
This is false. Learn Muay Thai and elbows and striking will enable you to win any fight.
Elbows maybe but striking with fists seems pretty stupid without gloves. Like I said below size and intimidation are the most important factors for fights outside of a ring.
Maybe your muy thai helps you. but in the end, Stronger Than U Fu is the best mode of martial arts there is.
Two (of many) types of idiots:
1. People who think that they're tough guys because they know some martial arts
2. People who think that martial arts are useless and don't work "ON THE STREETS"
stature/size and intimidation are far more important factors in fights outside of an organized setting.
You've never been with a fight "lmao".
Anyone who is a purple belt in BJJ essentially has a license to kill you. Same with Judo.
Source: Skinny guy, been training martial arts most of my life, but Muay Thai and BJJ for 8 years.
I highly doubt some man child Brazilian would have a “license to kill” me Bc he practiced some arm bars in a studio.
source: 6’6” and 245 lbs.
Terrible troll. Do better.
Actually kinda funny troll, better than most other recent posts.
I’ve only been in two street fights. I wouldn’t recommend them. There are so many things that could go wrong, including accidentally killing someone and getting manslaughter chargers and hard times, or even getting assault charges even if you didn’t throw the first punch. A lot of shady people carry knives and you don’t want to get stabbed in the stomach or organs.
Suck up your pride and deflate the situation like a civilized man. If you want to fight to prove yourself, join an MMA, boxing, or Muay Thai gym and take up sparring or get in the ring for sanctioned legal fighting.
Exactly. I would never try my luck because you never know who has a gun or knife on them, and just like that you're dead over some stupid bullshit
He purposely taunted me and I almost crashed and he laughed. I’m not gonna let that shit fly.
I think if anything this makes you a smart man, like the Sun Tzu maxim I think that the battle is won/lost before it even began. Def the best way to “win” any fight is to avoid fighting as much as possible in my humble opinion. But I could be very wrong about this stuff…
OP where is your office? Let’s meet up and fight tonight. Grand Central at 8pm work for you?
Can we get an MD to rock OP's shit and re-create this glorious scene?
The last bit about your virginity 😂😂
You are fortunate enough to never really be in a fight. Some of us it has been the opposite either someone thinks they are physically stronger or intellectually. I just cannot count the times when someone comes along and thinks they are intellectually superior to me. As, I get older the less the physically the more the intellectual fights. I am just better at managing them.
"Confront your enemies, avoid them when you can; a gentleman will walk but never run"
No idea why you want to change your calmed, balanced and civilised self for a sparking fight-picking attitude, based on random half-wisdom.
While imo a troll, still: if you want to develop awareness for aggresivity and how to channel it, the options mentioned above are the right way to go. I would only add BJJ and if you even think of something with more flow Capoeira.... But the latter will deprive you of the joy of spitting blood.
Buddy, the cemetery is full of heroic stupids (testing themselves, their immature manliness and their luck on random fights).
I love that song.
Ive been a good neutral all of my life, I want to be a sigma male now, I won’t that mindset and that grindset. My friend (a Reddit mod and Disocrd admin) told me about “sigma energy” he says I need some.
I'm trying to be a ligma male. It's actually more rare than sigma males- have you heard of it?
Is it a joke post or not? In any case, I will try to give some comments.
Fistly, I don't understand why you mentioned things like being in non-target and internship. By the way, congrats for that internship.
Fighting a lot does not make more manly, or fighting less does not make less manly. Fighting can mean a lot things; starting from fighting over keyboard ending with UFC style fight.
Fighting over keyboard does not make you more manly.
Arguing with everything does not make you more manly.
Getting aggressive every 2 minutes does not make you more manly.
Doing martial arts can make you more manly.
Remaining calm, confident, not losing your temper and still being using your brains while arguing is more manly to my opinion than getting offended after 1 harsh sentence and starting to "fight".
Start training Jiu-jitsu at Marcelo's gym in Manhattan or at Renzo Gracie's gym
Best advice here. Training BJJ will take less of a toll on you than striking. It is also more effective for self defense. You will get the rush of fighting and knowledge to handle yourself without a busted nose and brain damage. Kickboxing is cool but not for everyone.
I don’t think this is true. You’re likely to get more random BJJ injuries than Muay Thai.
OP here. BJJ is gay.
lol you can roll with girls only in BJJ then, they'll whoop you and you'll feel even less manly at the end
This has to be a troll post. How would being a 22 year old non target Asian be relevant to anything you wrote.
I deemed it relevant because if I were a black male, I wouldn’t have this problem.
Not only are you a dumb ass but you are also a racist.
Been in a few back in my day, at least half a dozen i can remember. Luckily none ever got really bad. I never got my ass beat, and I never kept it going when the person was clearly done. I guess I didn’t wanna take it that far. A bunch ended kinda in a stalemate, where me and the other guy were both kinda beat and decided to call it a day. Others were just broken up.
I may sound like a soyboi here, but getting hit in the face really hurts and I generally don’t want to experience it again. No fights for prob 5 years, try to diffuse with words now. Much better strat. Plus if u beat someones ass bad, u got no way of knowin they aint gonna come back strapped the next day. Not worth the risk man, a person who had their pride hurt will shoot first and think later.
This man fights
This triple negative sentence confuses me - “nor did I even not stop” - so you didn’t stop and took it too far?
I had one fight end like this. Person was unconscious and a cop pulled me off of him. I had bloody knuckles, but he ended up going to jail, not me.
Haha my bad, I'm dumb man. Oof. I meant that I would never take it that far. Fixed it for future readers sake. There was one time the guy really deserved a beating, but I somehow managed to hold off even though I coulda put his lights out.
Na, that sounds very reasonable. There is a reason Tyson said everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
Ride the NYC subway long enough and you’ll likely find yourself in a fight lol.
TBH the subway isn’t so bad. In my experience, it’s all normal people riding it. I keep to myself but have never felt threatened or uncomfortable.
Love the troll, but as someone who has been in a real fight, it is terrifying
Yeah - big difference between a street fight and training MMA is the hard concrete and getting slammed into brick walls and onto the ground. One bad hit and you could get a Traumatic Brain Injury and permanent brain damage.
Sucks to be you, can't relate.
By the time I was 16, I had already broken my neck in a street fight, gotten scarred on my face with broken glass, and jumped a guy that one time in the backyard of a McDonalds in Brooklyn. What did he do to deserve that vicious beating? IDK. I just felt like fighting.
Go wash the sand out of your v*** and get into a street fight already. Time is running out.
99.9% sure this is bait, but in case its not
Source: A dude suspended for fighting in HS
I fucking love this website lmao
That is your god given gift, it will help you along the way in your career and otherwise. Patience opens new doors like nothing else, sky is the limit.
I was kind of that kid early in my college career always trying to start shit, I never got my ass beat even if I deserved it.
It is almost certainly not worth the hassle to get into some kind of street fight or bar fight. The odds of one or both of you to get some form of injury are gigantic, and it takes one bad fall for one of you to have a TBI. Some guys started shit at a party I was hosting in my apartment and I put some dude in a camel-clutch. It's not worth it in any way even if you end up on the winning-end.
Since we are on the topic of fights—
Was at a bar once and a dude weighing 40 pounds lighter than me points at my arms and says, “wow big man huh, bet you could beat my ass, just kidding, I’d kill you”. He was drunk, alone, and there were 6 guys with me all outweighing him by 40-70 pounds. We all look at each other, one guy looks at the guy and gives me a look like are you going to swing? I nod and say no.
If you are smart, this situation plays out 3 ways, none of which are fun:
1) he has a gun, a knife, or a ton of friends and was baiting you
2) he is a loser, and you beat the crap of of the guy, get roughed up by the bouncers/ kicked out, and spend the rest of your night trying to find a new place while trying to explain why your hand is swollen to double its normal size at work the next day. Also, your favorite shirt got ripped when the clown tried to grab it, so you are out $120+ In addition to the cover.
3) You beat the crap out of the guy, he sues and or you go too far and end up facing criminal charges.
Here’s why fights suck: you either get your ass beat, which sucks for obvious reasons. Or you beat someone else up, in which case you need to make sure you throttle back enough that they won’t swing back at you, but also aren’t severely hurt enough to file a charge. This is actually pretty hard to do.
Fights suck for adult professionals, you have everything to lose and only gain an ego trip for a night.
Not having been in a fight is not the reason you haven't lost your virginity. Nor is it the reason you don't seem "manly". You can pick up a martial art to see if that gets you the confidence or the attitude of being more "manly", but as someone who practices martial arts this wasn't really the case for me.
I'm not sure what else to say, but you have to work on your attitude if you think that's the problem. This won't happen by punching someone in the face (more likely you'll be knocked anyway) or listening to violent songs. Your looks also have a lot to do with why you haven't lost your virginity. Lastly if you are this delusional about how thinking "not being a fighter" didn't get you laid, I would say you're a weird person to be around to begin with. Sorry if that's mean, but that's the truth.
Here's how I look at it -
Certain race/races are know as "tough"/looking for respect/fights a lot etc...However, such race/races also have the highest single-mom rate. So you tell me if leaving a single mom is a "tough" action or not.
I am not trying to point fingers or play the race debate. I simply want to say "fighting" doesn't necessarily make a man more manly. Your biggest and most difficult enemy is not the boss yelling at you or random dude at bar. Instead, it is LIFE. I think a real tough guy is a man who takes responsibilities and provides for the family.
It's ok if you haven't got into a fight or haven't lost your virginity or w/e. Just keep in mind, LIFE will always find a way to mess you up. When it's that time, don't cry like a baby or run away like those "tough guys" from those races.
LMAO this kinda racist ngl. But thanks for the advice, I appreciate it my g.
How is it racist when these are facts/data.
On the other end, there's a reason why race should/could not be included in data analytics..
OP, to achieve peak masculine energy and a complete liberation of the senses, do the following:
1) Drive to your nearest urban city.
2) Roll down the windows and play “Took Her to the O”, “Hellcats and Trackhawks”, “Bouncin”, or other drill music flavor of choice.
If you are feeling particularly belligerent, experiment with flashing various controversial hand signals and shouting various head turning irregularities.
You will find what you are looking for.
I’ve done this believe it or not. I went to my nearest hood and shouted rather crude things at passerby’s and it felt like something was going to go down but I ended up reverting to natural neutrality and we all become friends. My best friend is actually black.
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To the people saying it's a good thing to have never been in a fight - no it is not. How much can you know about yourself if you've never been in a fight?
Personally, I had never been in a fight, spent my nights buying Ikea furniture and going to testicular cancer support groups. Then I got involved in a secret fight club, started a new project called Mayhem, and began having steady sex w/ a nice girl named Marla.
#winning
Based and schizo-pilled.
All that pent up Testosterone will come out in the form of
-Patrick Bateman II
-Fight Club II
A+ troll
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